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Just saying hi and asking bout opinions on domains :)

12-25-2004, 04:36 AM

Hey all new to the business....

am going to be having a free pic site....

the webdesigner of www.meetmysecretary.com and www.masktv.com is going to be designing my site...

anyone have any starting out tips? or anything along those lines?? any knowledge would be greatly appreciated....

btw.. what do u guys think about these domain names.. their all mine

www.YoungSlutz.com
www.AssCamp.com
www.BuyingUsed.com
www.WhatTheShit.com

i can't wait to get this stuff started btw... anyone suggest a good webhost?

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12-25-2004, 04:38 AM

they all kind of suck big time

but with a nice design and good traffic building skills you can turn them in money makers without a problem
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12-25-2004, 04:41 AM

they all suck? i don't think they're half bad... easy to remember..

is there money in having a free pic site? or is all the money in having your own content and paysite?

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12-25-2004, 04:44 AM

i was told www.AssCamp.com would make a good pay-site...
and that YoungSlutz.com would make a good freesite...

anyone else have an opinion on that??

also anything else you might want to share with a newbie?

im trying to be a sponge with this wonderful resource

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12-25-2004, 04:44 AM

There is no money in porn anymore, you are at least 3 years late...

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12-25-2004, 04:46 AM

domain doesn't matter a whole lot unless it's kinda major... like sex.com or porn.com. Barring that... your domain might not make a huge impact.

What you put on it... well, that won't matter a whole lot either unless you can generate a lot of traffic. If you're just starting at this, chances are that you'll find it to be a major struggle to get a lot of traffic no matter what your domain is.

Traffic is the key... do you know how to get a lot or do you have any contacts that can help?

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12-25-2004, 04:47 AM

what do u mean theres no money in it anymore? why's that?

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12-25-2004, 04:48 AM

i was thinking of paying for traffic... like banner ads on different sites etc...

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12-25-2004, 04:50 AM

You actually have to work and know what you are doing to make money now a days, unlike few years ago....

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12-25-2004, 04:51 AM

i'm willing to learn

i have a bunch of ideas... but no mentor to tell me whats a good idea and whats a bad idea.. i have a bit of entrepreneurship skill and i think i can get by... but i just need somewhere to dig my first step in ya know?

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12-25-2004, 04:52 AM

Originally posted by sonofsam

i was thinking of paying for traffic... like banner ads on different sites etc...

hmm... that will give you a very small burst of traffic for a month or so and will end up costing you a lot more than you think.

I strongly suggest doing some research on how to generate traffic. If you can't bring people to your sites, it won't matter what you put on them.

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12-25-2004, 04:53 AM

...anywhere i can start reading about that??

so basically everyone opposes the idea of me starting a freesite?

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12-25-2004, 04:56 AM

Asscamp would make a hell of a reality site of young women going to camp to learn how to take it in the ass...

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12-25-2004, 04:59 AM

Originally posted by sonofsam

...anywhere i can start reading about that??

so basically everyone opposes the idea of me starting a freesite?

I don't think anyone is opposed to you starting anything. Infact, it's always welcomed to have more people with more new ideas.

Here, have a look here:
http://www.cozyacademy.com/classrooms/index.asp
http://services.ynotmasters.com/promotion/
http://www.adultchamber.com/getstart.shtml

And make sure to check the links to other resource sites that they list too, because there's more with more great tips and advice. But these ones are a good start.

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12-25-2004, 04:59 AM

my frind built www.masktv.com from the ground up.. i could easily get him to make me an entire site..... is that one of the major costs in starting a site? the webdesign??

or would the freesite route be better to start out with ?

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12-25-2004, 05:04 AM

Maintenance/updating and increasing traffic are the main costs. Webdesign cost is minimal.
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12-25-2004, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by sonofsam

my frind built www.masktv.com from the ground up.. i could easily get him to make me an entire site..... is that one of the major costs in starting a site? the webdesign??

or would the freesite route be better to start out with ?

See, this is where you need the research... your friend didn't build masktv from the ground up. Actually, I did. Your friend took it over AFTER I had built it to a stable base. Feel free to ask Jackie and Allen.

Anyway, like I said, it doesn't matter if you have the world's top design and most content of any site... if you can't get people to it, no one will sign up.

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12-25-2004, 05:08 AM

he also made a freesite

www.minipinups.com and was going to use that as a template for my freesite...

how's that look?

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12-25-2004, 05:09 AM

sorry maybe i got it mixed up wit hanother site he made??

he told me about a bunch of sites... maybe i got it confused with another one?

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12-25-2004, 05:17 AM

can initial investment of a paysite be able to be around 1000 dollar?

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12-25-2004, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by sonofsam

can initial investment of a paysite be able to be around 1000 dollar?

heh... uhhm.... that might get you a logo and a few sets of content. To tell you the truth, if you want a paysite that will generate any kind of revenue... be prepared to spend 10x or 20x that amount.

And yes, that's even if you have someone designing it for free.

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12-25-2004, 05:25 AM

i wouldn't start a paysite with less than 30k as budget now
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12-25-2004, 05:26 AM

my god.. i didn't know startup cost would be around 20k....

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12-25-2004, 05:27 AM

i guess freesite is the only way to go for now....

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12-25-2004, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by sonofsam

i guess freesite is the only way to go for now....

Turn asscamp into a niche faketgp with anal pics etc..
See this thread for reference: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=316981

You don't even have to buy traffic. Submit 2 galleries with camelion submitter, with you own recip in the galleries and build up traffic step by step. That works
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12-25-2004, 07:06 AM

thank you so much for that link

i was told asscamp.com is a paysite domain name....

think maybe i should turn them both into TGP?

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12-25-2004, 09:00 AM

I don't want decide for you lol.
If you got huge $$$ and know how then turn it into a paysite. Or sell it, or whatever
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12-25-2004, 02:12 PM

deff don't have the money to start a paysite

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12-25-2004, 02:25 PM

There is no golden rule that one domain is for a paysite and the other is for a free site. You just have to go with what you think will make the most amount of money. With a pay site, it costs a lot of money to keep it going and get it going. You have to pay the VISA fees which is about $750, you have to keep the content constantly updated, you have to promote it anyway possible, you'll need an affiliate program and try and get webmasters to sign up for that, etc. There are a ton of factors to a paysite and if you dont know shit about any of them, I guarantee a failure.

If you want to make a TGP, you can have a blast trying.. but its the same shit different pile. You need a TGP script, you need a traffic trading script, you need people who will trade with you, you need hard link exchanges to get your PR up, and every body and their mother has a TGP so dont think there isnt enough competition to go around.

You can try by starting out with submitting galleries, but then you'll find out that auto submitting doesnt make sales unless you know what you're doing. Hand submit to a bunch of big TGP's and you wont get listed anywhere, etc. The bottom line is this isnt some industry where as long as you put in X amount of hours a day you'll make a killing. This industry has ut throat competition and unless you're smart, you wont make shit.

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12-25-2004, 04:28 PM

There is no more money to be made from Internet porn. This place is actually just a message board at a mental health facility for retired adult webmasters that are having a hard time coming to grips with the reality that the game is over.

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12-25-2004, 04:35 PM

I am still in shock that someone actually got help on this board. A newbie nonetheless. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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12-27-2004, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by MaskedMan

See, this is where you need the research... your friend didn't build masktv from the ground up. Actually, I did. Your friend took it over AFTER I had built it to a stable base. Feel free to ask Jackie and Allen.

Anyway, like I said, it doesn't matter if you have the world's top design and most content of any site... if you can't get people to it, no one will sign up.

Sorry, i might have misread or mistyped something when i was talking to him. I built http://www.maidensofmasktv.com/index.html from the ground up, and run MaskTV.

Anyways, don't get discouraged dude. people said the same thing about google when it tried to enter the search engine market. I even thought it would fail miserably. that market was dominated by yahoo and altavista, and now look at it. So it CAN be done. But yeah, the autosubmitter submission thing is a good place to start to get traffic. I'll speak further with you about that on msn.

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