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  • AdultSite-Review
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 81

    #1

    SolarBilling.com ceases to process adult sites

    Just received this email from SolarBilling.com:


    Dear Webmaster -

    As you know, major credit card companies continue to prescribe new regulations, most without
    notice, that directly affect the adult industry and associated billing systems. These new
    regulations directly interfere with the processing of e-wallets, aggregators, third-party billers and
    the like. Since November 16, 2004, Solar Billing has been in negotiations with Deutsche Bank
    on behalf of our clients in attempts to ensure that you would be able to continue processing
    using the Solar Billing e-wallet system.

    Unfortunately, due to the current climate of the online adult industry and its webmasters,
    Deutsche Bank has decided to place a hold on all Solar Billing funds until such time as they feel
    that the risk of potential exposure to liability has passed. It should be made clear that Solar
    Billing is NOT holding any funds whatsoever. All funds are being held by Deutsche Bank, and
    payouts will be made as the funds are released by the bank.

    In light of these factors, Solar Billing has decided to accelerate its business model and no longer
    process for any sites that may be deemed "adult," and focus its attention instead on internet
    gaming and other mainstream areas. Therefore, effective immediately, adult webmasters are
    instructed to remove any and all links promoting or linking to Solar Billing.

    As stated from our inception, Solar Billing was always intended for gaming as well as adult.
    Regrettably, the nature of the adult industry is such that Solar Billing no longer wishes to provide
    billing services for such activities.

    If you have any questions regarding this decision, please contact [email protected].
  • Libertine
    sex dwarf
    • May 2002
    • 17860

    #2
    The funny thing is everyone already saw it coming, how billing company after billing company would either fall or withdraw from adult. It is slowly getting to be somewhat problematic, and it doesn't seem like things will get better any time soon.
    /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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    • Kimmykim
      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
      • Jun 2001
      • 16015

      #3
      These are NOT new regulations. SolarBob was told repeatedly earlier this year by many webmasters including myself that he was doing something that was not kosher with Visa regs, he is the one that chose to pretend like he had some fantastic new solution to getting around Visa.

      Riiiiight.

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      • seer
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2002
        • 280

        #4
        messed up for anybody that used them

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        • MaDalton
          I am Amazing Content!
          • Feb 2004
          • 39861

          #5
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          • coolfuck
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2004
            • 2440

            #6
            i think its a good news for us !
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            • Webby
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Oct 2002
              • 14956

              #7
              I see a bank, Deutsche Bank in this instance waking up one morning and creating some policy..... Fickle and nothing more than can be expected of a bank.

              Roll on the day adult net billing does not need any direct associations with card companies - that day is getting closer! :-)
              XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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              • Veterans Day
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 8403

                #8
                who?
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                • directfiesta
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 30184

                  #9
                  Originally posted by coolfuck
                  i think its a good news for us !



                  12345678
                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                  • AdultSite-Review
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 81

                    #10
                    Gentlemen and Gentleladies,

                    so in your humble opinion, what is now the best solution for smaller paysites without a merchant account, that need a processor to process as many credit card types possible, and who can manage subscribers, meaning they can add and remove usernames and passwords as necessary to a list on the paysite?

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                    • TheMob
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8584

                      #11
                      woah, they're all being shot down.. one at a time

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                      • Steen2
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 7662

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AdultSite-Review
                        It should be made clear that Solar
                        Billing is NOT holding any funds whatsoever. All funds are being held by Deutsche Bank, and
                        payouts will be made as the funds are released by the bank.
                        iBill does this too it seems.


                        Do these companies not keep cash reserves?! Or do they just choose not to touch their own money when their business partnerships alter.
                        ICQ: 2262.73945

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                        • AdultSite-Review
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 81

                          #13
                          Cough...

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                          • chupachups
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 6576

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AdultSite-Review
                            Gentlemen and Gentleladies,

                            so in your humble opinion, what is now the best solution for smaller paysites without a merchant account, that need a processor to process as many credit card types possible, and who can manage subscribers, meaning they can add and remove usernames and passwords as necessary to a list on the paysite?

                            Check myvirtualcard.com, the have everything you need!

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                            • r3ap3r
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 3535

                              #15
                              Honestly, I've never heard of them before. Another one bites the dust.

                              Check out my sig for Merchant Solutions...
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                              • baddog
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 107089

                                #16
                                Originally posted by punkworld
                                it doesn't seem like things will get better any time soon.

                                Better? From what I have been told it is only going to get worse. Much worse.

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                                • baddog
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 107089

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by AdultSite-Review
                                  Gentlemen and Gentleladies,

                                  so in your humble opinion, what is now the best solution for smaller paysites without a merchant account, that need a processor to process as many credit card types possible, and who can manage subscribers, meaning they can add and remove usernames and passwords as necessary to a list on the paysite?
                                  eCommerceGlobal.com - click this link and save 1% on processing rate

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                                  • AdultSite-Review
                                    Registered User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 81

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by r3ap3r
                                    Honestly, I've never heard of them before. Another one bites the dust.

                                    Check out my sig for Merchant Solutions...

                                    Actually I already did yesterday, but somehow I find it a little hard to have confidence in them, with something as important as my billing company, because they do not seem to know basic HTML.

                                    Examples on their affiliate page:

                                    1) They use "<br />" instead of "<br>"

                                    2) On their affiliate page there is a text that says "Click here to Become an Affiliate", that link has gone awalk!

                                    Off course this could just be a stupid webmaster?

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                                    • baddog
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 107089

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by AdultSite-Review
                                      Actually I already did yesterday, but somehow I find it a little hard to have confidence in them, with something as important as my billing company, because they do not seem to know basic HTML.

                                      Examples on their affiliate page:

                                      1) They use "<br />" instead of "<br>"

                                      2) On their affiliate page there is a text that says "Click here to Become an Affiliate", that link has gone awalk!

                                      Off course this could just be a stupid webmaster?
                                      I don't think processors make the best web designers, probably not a good gauge

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                                      • nige
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 435

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by AdultSite-Review
                                        1) They use "<br />" instead of "<br>"
                                        http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#h-4.6
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                                        • AdultSite-Review
                                          Registered User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 81

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by nige
                                          Now I feel really silly

                                          This is definately the first time I have seen that it should be "<br/" and "<hr/>", for empty elements, or "<hr>" jadi, jadi, jadi </hr>".

                                          Every HTML, PHP, JavaScript tutorial I ever seen uses "<br>" and "<hr>".

                                          I guess it's because br and hr are not designed to contain anything?

                                          Besides you nige, who uses that?

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                                          • dcortez
                                            DINO CORTEZâ„¢
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 2145

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by r3ap3r
                                            Check out my sig for Merchant Solutions...
                                            Yah right!

                                            I checked out Merchant Solutions quite a few weeks go and tried hard to base my assessment of what they offer on my personal experience with them - not all the badwill apparently floating around about them and their prinicipal(s).

                                            Well, all can say is that after three weeks, I find it much easier to believe all the bad things I've been hearing about them on this and other forums.

                                            Their site does not work properly, unfinished features ('coming soon' all over the place), shabby and incomplete documentation, their support is virtually non-existent, their signup pages weren't even SSL.

                                            I tried to get help on numerous occasions over a three week period (online help, email, and ICQ with daniel) and was promised on several separate occasions that the site would be working 'within 10 minutes' (just a small DOS attack was the prob), and manuals would be sent to me, my account would be followed up and was assured they process 20,000 transactions a day.

                                            -- that would have been fine, but IT NEVER HAPPENED.

                                            As far as I'm concerned, Merchant Solutions is just another flakey processor with a very creepy history trying to offset a mountain of badwill and reputation with claims of huge promotional budgets.

                                            If they focused a bit more on quality of service and support, they probably would not need such a huge budget to spin their biz.

                                            BTW: I DO get an email EACH DAY from them showing my daily sales (of zero - because they never got it working), and I get email about promoting them through my sigs. They have some very strange priorities.

                                            -Dino

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                                            • Hinc
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2004
                                              • 2577

                                              #23
                                              Thanks for the personal experience. Nice to know.

                                              Does anyone have experience on the other suggestion,
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                                              • NaughtyRob
                                                Two fresh affiliate progs
                                                • Nov 2004
                                                • 29602

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by AdultSite-Review
                                                Now I feel really silly

                                                This is definately the first time I have seen that it should be "<br/" and "<hr/>", for empty elements, or "<hr>" jadi, jadi, jadi </hr>".

                                                Every HTML, PHP, JavaScript tutorial I ever seen uses "<br>" and "<hr>".

                                                I guess it's because br and hr are not designed to contain anything?

                                                Besides you nige, who uses that?
                                                Yeah, that is xhtml.
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                                                • dcortez
                                                  DINO CORTEZâ„¢
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 2145

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Hinc
                                                  Thanks for the personal experience. Nice to know.

                                                  Does anyone have experience on the other suggestion,
                                                  http://www.ecommerceglobal.com
                                                  Another scary startup...

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                                                  You can contact me if you want transcripts of my experiences with them.

                                                  -Dino

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                                                  • Theo
                                                    HAL 9000
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 34515

                                                    #26
                                                    ask solarbilling if they were a registered IPSP

                                                    i dont think i have seen their name in the visa list.

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                                                    • HMS
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 84

                                                      #27
                                                      If you are looking for your own merchant account I will soon be able to assist. Humboldt Merchant Services currently processes multi-million dollars per month in adult transactions. We truly desire to bring on more adult accounts, but Visa has put a temporary stop to that. We have reached our "maximum allowable ratio" of adult vs. non adult processing dollars. As our non adult portfolio grows we will again be able to bring on additional adult accounts. We are looking at March/April to be able to do so. If you feel you would be interested I am currently building a list of folks to contact as soon as this opens up. Simply email me your contact info and I will add you to my notification list.

                                                      HMS does require the following:
                                                      -2 years in business
                                                      -currently processing $100K per month (can by 3rd party, direct, or combination of)
                                                      -CB's under 1%
                                                      -using one of a select few gateways (NETBILLING, Jettis, CyberSource, etc)

                                                      If you meet these I can get you the following rates:
                                                      Discount Rate (non qualified) 4.6%
                                                      Transaction fee $0.30 (including AVS)
                                                      Monthly Statement Fee $10.00
                                                      High Risk registration / set-up fees $2790

                                                      Believe me when I say I would LOVE to bring these accounts on now, but Visa simply will not allow it.

                                                      EMAIL ME TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN WE ARE AGAIN ABLE TO OPEN DIRECT ACCOUNTS!

                                                      Steve Kimberling, AVP
                                                      Humboldt Merchant Services
                                                      877-635-3339
                                                      [email protected]

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                                                      • Kimmykim
                                                        bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                        • 16015

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Webby
                                                        I see a bank, Deutsche Bank in this instance waking up one morning and creating some policy..... Fickle and nothing more than can be expected of a bank.
                                                        Except for the fact that DeutscheBank woke up that morning WAY before Solar Billing started and said they weren't going to play any more.

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                                                        • AdultSite-Review
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 81

                                                          #29
                                                          Regarding Merchant Solutions I signed up with them a week ago, and have still not heard a damn thing!?!

                                                          Sure it is the Holidays and all that, but come on, a billing company should have time to process a new merchant fast!

                                                          This is fucking bullshit!

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                                                          • Zprogramz
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                            • 1360

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by AdultSite-Review
                                                            Regarding Merchant Solutions I signed up with them a week ago, and have still not heard a damn thing!?!

                                                            Sure it is the Holidays and all that, but come on, a billing company should have time to process a new merchant fast!

                                                            This is fucking bullshit!
                                                            So you went from one unknown IPSP to another? Have you not leaned your lesson? Go with Netbilling and get away from third party processing altogether or at least use CCbill.

                                                            Z

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                                                            • Forest
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                              • 9135

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                                              So you went from one unknown IPSP to another? Have you not leaned your lesson? Go with Netbilling and get away from third party processing altogether or at least use CCbill.

                                                              Z

                                                              good post!

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                                                              • AdultSite-Review
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 81

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                                                So you went from one unknown IPSP to another? Have you not leaned your lesson? Go with Netbilling and get away from third party processing altogether or at least use CCbill.

                                                                Z

                                                                Well when I said "Signed up" I was perhaps exaggerating, I completed their online form so I could lern more.

                                                                Anyways after weeks, suddenly I got a call yesterday from them, some guy in Australia, saying that my account was setup and I could logon and browse their site.

                                                                But I have received no freaking confirmation email, plus no I am not 100% sure if I ever entered a password. Anyways if I did I can't remember, so I click the "Forgot Password" link, and guess what?

                                                                "Page cannot be found"

                                                                They might have dollars to spend on advertisements and be legit, but they should spend some dollars on web development and make sure their amateur website works, before they are going to convince and gain my trust.

                                                                See other GFY thread here http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hant+solutions

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                                                                • DutchTeenCash
                                                                  I like Dutch Girls
                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                  • 21684

                                                                  #33
                                                                  solarwho ?

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                                                                  • vicki
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                    • 1478

                                                                    #34
                                                                    You ask what your choices are ..

                                                                    If you don't have the volume to get a merchant account you need to stick with one of the two well known 3rd party processors (ccbill, epoch/paycom).
                                                                    Yes its true that visa does not like IPSP's (3rd party) and they're trying to choke them out but until the time where you can get a merc .. you have little choice.

                                                                    Just don't go with some other 3rd party
                                                                    If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment.

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                                                                    • vicki
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                      • 1478

                                                                      #35
                                                                      btw not all merchant accounts have to meet the same requirements and volume that Humbolt posted above!!!
                                                                      If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment.

                                                                      HR merchant accounts from 3.45%
                                                                      solid biz since 98
                                                                      victoriakozub AT gmail.com
                                                                      skype: victoria.kozub | ICQ: 74296746

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