ok this all sounds great but many times youre stuck with a fake email fake adress etc etc then what ?
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Originally posted by ADL_JD
I agree. I have sent almost identical letters. People get all scared, then call their bank, and the bank calms them down.
Best thing is to have a support system, make sure refunds are done. Let your customers know when updates are going to happen, basically keep them happy. You will always get CB's. The above at least ensures it won't be of rht wrong reasons.
Don't reply. Let it die.
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Just tell them you know where they live, and you will send a crew to stand infront of their house with signs that say "Remove this pervert from our neighborhood".
It'll work.
this is not good advice.Sig for sale. ICQ: 163-545-054Comment
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Originally posted by lloyd
You turned 15 the 22:nd this month?
Couple of days late but.. congrats!
Ehhrm.. which sponsor allows You to promote for them though?
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We get a ton of fake emails, hack attempts, etc. If its fake, then they provided fraudulent information to begin with and most of those charges don't go through. The ones that do on the other hand, the bank is easily shown it initial intent was fraudulent, so they wont chargeback or at least reverse it.Originally posted by thinkxwww.JasonandAlex.com
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I'm all for it. I also favor shooting them.Comment
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uhm... couldn't it be the " initial intent was fraudulent"-part is a valid reason to charge back? People that sign up with hacked, stolen,...,... creditcards are probably not using the correct (email)adress of the card holderOriginally posted by iBankerComment
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Not a bad idea, but I don't get that many of them, so I don't know if it would be worth it for me, lol.Originally posted by villageidiotComment
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Yeah, but we are the program, its the shithead enduser charging back, we are trying to lower the number of chargebacks.Originally posted by PMdave
But yeah, lol, you are right, and that it the reason we are "trying" to use.www.JasonandAlex.com
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I got a chargeback recently and looked up the domain the email was from and it turns out the guy has a website where he posts adult stories using paypal to sell/accept donations.
Heh heh. Payback time.Comment
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yea...good in theory ...
however its my experience that a majority of the email addresses associated with these types of members/chargebacks are not valid....so they are unreachable.Comment
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holy shit somebody noticed that! i dont promote anyone i'm just here for the free porn like any 15 yr old.Originally posted by Just-Anotha-MackYou turned 15 the 22:nd this month?
Couple of days late but.. congrats!
Ehhrm.. which sponsor allows You to promote for them though?
nah, i jsut changed it in my profile once the calender feature was added with v3.0 thought it would be kinda funny. sadly its not true or i would have been on the board since i was like 12.Comment
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If I'm not mistaken, the fact that you had a CDC can still be counted against you if the acquiring bank or card association chooses to do so, regardless of the outcome.Comment
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I do not run paysites yet but....why not tell the people signing up in the welcome e-mail you send them that you will track every use of the website they make and that if ever they chargeback you'll have proof to dispute it?
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Let us know if you wind up using this approach.Comment
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Originally posted by iBanker
he's doing a chargeback on $3.95 ?Comment
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Let's not forget we're being paid to provide adult entertainment to people who mostly are NOT going to defraud us.Originally posted by Devilporn
To treat them with an attitude assuming they are untrustworthy will do more harm than good. Why bum them out with a 'big brother is watching' approach. The ones who will cheat, will only laugh when they read your 'promise to track their butts to embarrasment'. The honest ones may regret having signed up with such an unfriendly service.
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I though a chargeback could only be made for a subscription over $20 or some value like that?Originally posted by brizzadComment
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Awesome. I will be implimenting this into our system next week.
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Why not just have the enduser, click on a link within his email to activate his username/password in order to enter the site. that might eliminate the bogus emails.We are what we repeatedly do.-AristotleComment
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You guys are really on top of things over there. Cheers and Merry Christmas. Thanks for the awesome gift basket that you sent us.Originally posted by netbilling
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Do what you feel is best for your business. But keep in mind, from a cost/benefit standpoint, you're gonna be paying $300+/hour for an attorney.- *** -Comment
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Yup $3.95, and we got to more today totaling over $100. Here is what blows my mind.Originally posted by brizzad
They sign up using their real name, their real address, a matching IP address, AND here is the kicker.....they pay BY CHECK!!!!
And some of them charge back within 1 hour of when they signed up. It is so obvious they actually did it cause who could get a bank statement that fast. Even if they could, what are the odds of them to be checking their online statement and its actually there ON TIME....
It about time we all put our heads together and figure this out.www.JasonandAlex.com
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Interesting, maybe he charged back because he thought the site was shit?
Originally posted by iBankerComment
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Most banks simply issue a credit without cdc on very small transactions, they're already in the red on tiny trans by the time they read the request online or talk to the consumer.Originally posted by Mike33
Not all of them do though.Comment
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Please dont missunderstand the intent I initially and still hold. The intent is to:Originally posted by dcortez
Limit the total number of chargebacks.
I have no intentions of embarassing anyone, as that is not good business. I can tell you this though, everyone here is sick of having to tell an affiliate he/she lost a sale cause it was fraudulent. It costs us money, but more importantly, it costs the affiliate money. Unhappy affiliates = Less Traffic = Less Joins = Less overall profit.
What we are trying to do, is keep that money in the affiliates pocket, not embarass anyone (although we have little emotion against scammers).www.JasonandAlex.com
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Very cute. If that were the case, the Amp would be a shitty designer, 2one3 would be shitty production, Nats doesn't function, CCBill and/or Epoch doesn't work. All things we utilize that we know are above the industry standard, and works better than we imagined.Originally posted by detoxed
I think not, but hey, its your opinion. Have fun with it. Kind of knew if I posted a real thread on here, someone would be a jackass. And people wonder why I stay off the boards.
To those of you with the great imput thanks. My attorney will have it done after the new year if anyone wants a final copy of the letter we plan on sending. Merry Christmas!www.JasonandAlex.com
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Just re read your post, wanted to clarify I thought you were calling our sites shit. Apologies if you weren't. Thanks.Originally posted by detoxedwww.JasonandAlex.com
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I've started getting pre-emptive about chargebacks and reduced them by at least 75%
There are certain things people put in email addresses when they think they are clever and going to sign up and do a chargeback .. like 0wn3d@ or any other fake email with an abnormal amount of numbers instead of letters.. f
I'll cancel, refund, and ban the account as soon as i see it.
I probably end up losing some valid sales but the amount of money i have saved in penalties, not to mention keeping my overall percentage low has been worth it.
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That sounds like a very viable solution. Something as well we should look at implementing.Originally posted by killshotwww.JasonandAlex.com
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Originally posted by killshot
you can still dispute a refunded charge heheComment
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I know in our Netbilling fraud scrubbing settings, we have it set to void a transaction and kill the password if the email bounces back within a 12 hour period. It is a good filter to use. They have a bunch like that in their admin.Originally posted by iBanker
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I have found that chargebacks are mainly legit. It's the refunds that piss me off. Most chargebacks really are fruad. I would say 85-90% of chargebacks are really an innocent persons card being used. Refunds, however, is a different story. Those are the fuckers that piss me off. With refunds, the most common excuse is a minor used the card. If they refund more than a few months at a time usually its an irate wife.
I wish billers were more stern about refunds.
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Yeah I read about that with NetBilling, thus the reason we just applied for an account through them. Just wish it didn't take 4-6 weeks. Especially for a company in the process of going public. Oh well, all in due time I guess.Originally posted by Zprogramz
That is one of the many reasons we are going over to them.www.JasonandAlex.com
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Think this is always a good idea. We mail each wanker who does a cb to us.
this past year we managed to recover around 20 percent of cbacks through the user posting payment or sending in a check. The dollar value was low but it makes me feel better...fuck em!
Thing i love best is when a user writes in screaming he cant sign up, car rejected and they we find he has cback history. Nothing gives me greater pleasue than emailing the fuck and telling him why his ass is blocked.
Every webmaster should write an email for every chargeback in my view.Comment
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Hi,Originally posted by iBanker
What part are you referring to that takes 4-6 weeks.
Below is what I posted yesterday about your application...
"Actually I just checked with Erin in merchant services and she verified that the app was faxed to us from you last Thursday (December 16th) and missing statements whcih you supplied to us last Friday (December 17th). We received the original from you this past Tuesday (December 21) and it was sent to the bank for approval yesterday and is in progress. Of course, not much will happen over the holidays at the banks as you probably would imagine."
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