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Then you're arguing for environmental and memetic pressure rather then genetic predisposition. My wife's mother is a good example. Her mom was just born mean. She's been a bitch her entire life, but her grandmother wasn't a bitch and tried her best to provide a good home. There was nothing her grandmother could have done to make her mother a nicer person.Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
While for the most part I agree with you on the genetics stance, I don't agree 100%. I think that anyone, regardless of their background, can do pretty much anything they want. I know of people who came from extremely wealthy and privelaged families and ended up in prison or on the streets or whatever, and I know of people who came from nothing, with all odds stacked against them, who made millions of dollars and are real success stories.
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I do see your point, but I think that if she really wanted to not be a bitch anymore, then she could do it.Originally posted by CET
Then you're arguing for environmental and memetic pressure rather then genetic predisposition. My wife's mother is a good example. Her mom was just born mean. She's been a bitch her entire life, but her grandmother wasn't a bitch and tried her best to provide a good home. There was nothing her grandmother could have done to make her mother a nicer person.

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Yeh i recon that things happen for reasons, there not random.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.Comment
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Is that idea something she can seriously entertain?Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
I do see your point, but I think that if she really wanted to not be a bitch anymore, then she could do it.
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Yes.
I also believe some of us have spirits on the other side that are our guides and protectors.
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I don't know. That would be hard to argue and prove either way.Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
I really think that if she wanted to, she could catch herself being a bitch and do something to stop it.Alt Journals, Blogs for Perverts!
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I think Chaos Theory, Genetics, Cosmology etc are really amazing subjects to discover some more about how the world works.Originally posted by CET
So genetics play no role in who a person is to become? I'm sorry, but you're disagreeing with what modern biology and psychology are discovering then. We have basic temperments that are genetically determined. Some people are determined to be violent, some are determined to be thoughtful, some are determined to be sluts, etc. Genetics isn't everything, but it is one of the major players.
I didn't say that Genetics play no role. I think our genes represent a blueprint of the most likely outcomes. It is not 100% guaranteed that we will outpicture what is in our genes.
For example, if both parents died of cancer. Precluding smoking, living next to power lines etc it is likely that you will develop cancer at some point. However even if you carry that particular mutated gene it is not an absolute certain death sentence that you will die of cancer.
You can make changes in your lifestyle to improve your health, think positive, try new drugs etc that could greatly reduce or even eliminate that MOST LIKELY possibility.Comment
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I think all of us do but most people go through their whole lives rarely listening to their intuitive side so it might as well not exist for them.Originally posted by KRL
Yes.
I also believe some of us have spirits on the other side that are our guides and protectors.
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Do you read Sylvia Brown?Originally posted by KRL
Yes.
I also believe some of us have spirits on the other side that are our guides and protectors.Comment
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I have.Originally posted by Furious_Female
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I read most of her books. They fascinate me...Originally posted by KRL
I have.Comment
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Wecan do a choice....but sume things must happen with us....it's difficultly to express by words.....I think everyone feels that simply has happened, and that is not simple so.....it's just my Opinionhttp://www.jk-network.net/ Best toons partnership! Who try, all stay with us!Comment
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I was waiting for someone to bring up the "intuative side" Some could say that's our "protectors" or "guides" or you could say it's your own head.
I know I've finally learned after 32 years to listen to that little voice that is telling me whether something is a good idea or not. If I had done that more over the years I may have avoided many costly and traumatic mistakes.Comment
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Originally posted by RRRED
I was waiting for someone to bring up the "intuative side" Some could say that's our "protectors" or "guides" or you could say it's your own head.
I know I've finally learned after 32 years to listen to that little voice that is telling me whether something is a good idea or not. If I had done that more over the years I may have avoided many costly and traumatic mistakes.
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Maybe fate can be pre-determined by 2 factors such as; causation and effect! Other variables can be added into the causation and effect like genes, nature etc etc
i.e say you meet a girl/boy and think you want to have sex with her/him etc, the causation for this could be animal attraction. ones persona of finding a suitable mating partner etc
The effect could be sex or no sex but also could lead into marriage etc
The possibilties are endless!
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I do. I believe that just as the physical world is something we have no control over (for example, the way you look is a function of your genes), we also don't have control over our destiny's (or the "non-physical world").
I believe our destiny is already 'written'. That doesn't mean you throw in the towel because you can't change anything. None of us know what are destiny is, so it's actually inspiring to plug away as hard as you can to see where you end up.
But none of us will ever really know.Comment
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That just isn't logical to me and I would kill myself right now if that were true. Why would you bother trying to achieve anything in life if your efforts could not change your future?Originally posted by Mike33
I do. I believe that just as the physical world is something we have no control over (for example, the way you look is a function of your genes), we also don't have control over our destiny's (or the "non-physical world").
I believe our destiny is already 'written'. That doesn't mean you throw in the towel because you can't change anything. None of us know what are destiny is, so it's actually inspiring to plug away as hard as you can to see where you end up.
But none of us will ever really know.
The result would be the same if you made an effort or sat on your ass.
Then again I wouldn't be able to kill myself as I would have no control over my destiny right? Or if I did kill myself it must have already been "written" ?
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Whenever I think about stuff like that it drives me crazy.Originally posted by OzMan
Then again I wouldn't be able to kill myself as I would have no control over my destiny right? Or if I did kill myself it must have already been "written" ?

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