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Lets calculate how much investment its needed to make a affiliate program!

02-02-2006, 03:45 PM

A descent aff program. Start small and built up, that's my motto!

Design 3 good site: $2400
Cbill: $700
Nats: $500+$1000 = $1500 / $125/m
(although i prefer mpa3 because they have less clients and i think i will get more attenction this way)
Content: $2000
Hosting: 100mbps = $1000/m
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Total: $7600

Im not an expert but i *think* you can do it with $7600. Yes / No?

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02-02-2006, 03:48 PM

You are assuming that the first sites you have built convert and start converting immediately to make you profitable on a month to month basis.

I would want a higher number than that
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02-02-2006, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by xlogger

A descent aff program. Start small and built up, that's my motto!

Design 3 good site: $2400
Cbill: $700
Nats: $500+$1000 = $1500 / $125/m
(although i prefer mpa3 because they have less clients and i think i will get more attenction this way)
Content: $2000
Hosting: 100mbps = $1000/m
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Total: $7600

being the only one who promotes it = priceless

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02-02-2006, 03:49 PM

2000$ in content? non exclusive?
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02-02-2006, 03:49 PM

Incorporation?
Traffic?
Hidden expenses?

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02-02-2006, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

being the only one who promotes it = priceless

good one, lol
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02-02-2006, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by BlueWire

You are assuming that the first sites you have built convert and start converting immediately to make you profitable on a month to month basis.

lol, you know what most new aff programs do? They copy the look of other good converting sites - it usually works. Hey, like i said im not an expert.

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

being the only one who promotes it = priceless

I will contact you and you can send me your whole 10 hits a day...from your gfy sig!

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02-02-2006, 03:50 PM

There's something a little backwards about the design costing more than the content.
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02-02-2006, 03:54 PM

Lol @ PA

Who do you think will design 3 good converting sites plus members areas for $2400? And only $2000 worth of content for 3 sites?

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02-02-2006, 03:55 PM

You could get it done for far less than that, just depends on how much you do yourself and how much you pay have done.

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02-02-2006, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by xlogger

A descent aff program. Start small and built up, that's my motto!

Design 3 good site: $2400
Cbill: $700
Nats: $500+$1000 = $1500 / $125/m
(although i prefer mpa3 because they have less clients and i think i will get more attenction this way)
Content: $2000
Hosting: 100mbps = $1000/m
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Total: $7600

Im not an expert but i *think* you can do it with $7600. Yes / No?

$7600 for a very crappy aff program with non-exclusive cookie cutter sites.

A "decent" aff program would cost much more.

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02-02-2006, 03:59 PM

Anyways, we will see how much it will cost. Give me a couple of months!

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02-02-2006, 04:00 PM

You left out way to much

And 100 mbps for $1000 for hosting an aff program ?
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02-02-2006, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by xlogger

I will contact you and you can send me your whole 10 hits a day...

deal

i hope the top affiliates will get decent treatment

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02-02-2006, 04:01 PM

all I can say is, DONT DO IT

you will fail miserably
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02-02-2006, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by Moose

You left out way to much

And 100 mbps for $1000 for hosting an aff program ?

Well, when you small that is what people do. Try to save $. Plus i dont fell i should pay more than i have to. Why should i? More means better?

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02-02-2006, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command

all I can say is, DONT DO IT

you will fail miserably

Fuck you bitch, i have yet to fail at anything (expect math, but who care about that shit).

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02-02-2006, 04:08 PM

might sound cheap with those very LOW numbers.. but before even attempting a program, have your own traffic sources so you don't have to exclusively depend on webmasters to promote your paysite thats filled with non-exclusive content.

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02-02-2006, 04:10 PM

I have 50k/day p2p traffic and 20k/day website traffic. Thats enough?

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02-02-2006, 04:11 PM

unless you first have a GOOD traffic source of your own its all useless

edit...i didnt see the traffic part

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02-02-2006, 04:12 PM

You start off with a 100mbit? You won't burn even half of it the first month.
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02-02-2006, 04:15 PM

That's very poorly done research, even a mistake in it

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02-02-2006, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by xlogger

I have 50k/day p2p traffic and 20k/day website traffic. Thats enough?

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02-02-2006, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by xlogger

I have 50k/day p2p traffic and 20k/day website traffic. Thats enough?

i'm not one to say if your traffic is enough.. if you feel confident enough, more power to you..

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02-02-2006, 04:24 PM

7K?

Fuck, I must be doing something wrong cause we are way past 100K and we are no where near finished.

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02-02-2006, 04:24 PM

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7K?

Fuck, I must be doing something wrong cause we are way past 100K and we are no where near finished.

Ray

damnnnnnn

I was thinking you know, if it failed i could just forget about the 7k and just do what i was doing. If i invest almost all my $ and then if it fails...

If it takes off then i could put more $ into it...

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02-02-2006, 04:25 PM

incorporation

banners, galleries, marketing material

scripts, content management system

advertising?

lots of other little bits and pieces that just all adds up

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02-02-2006, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

being the only one who promotes it = priceless

too cruel...........
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02-02-2006, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by xlogger

I have 50k/day p2p traffic and 20k/day website traffic. Thats enough?

Then going alone and not having affiliates you *might* be able to do it, but highly doubt you will be succesful with what you described.I have seen hundreds of newbie webmasters just like you get squashed attempting this over the years.
You start adding affiliates your costs will rise dramatically, one server isn't going to cut it. Add into your hosting costs alone, support, programmers, backup systems (you dont want all your affiliate info and your whole business relying on one server) your hosting/support costs alone will MINIMUM be triple that.Then add in marketing to get those affiliates (thousands). And all the other goodies you have to do nowadays to compete in the affiliate game (free hosting,FHG's, etc...)
I left out alot of other stuff, but maybe you get the picture.
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02-02-2006, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by xlogger

damnnnnnn

I was thinking you know, if it failed i could just forget about the 7k and just do what i was doing. If i invest almost all my $ and then if it fails...

If it takes off then i could put more $ into it...

yeah man, do a small little niche site and have fun with it ;-)
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02-02-2006, 04:31 PM

Aren't you missing some stuff?

FHG's
Pennywise or security software for members area.
Members area software
You need more content
Feeds for more content
Video and image editing
staff
marketing of affiliate program - skin here etc
hosting for affilaites
banners fpa etc

I do not have a program but I am sure there is more.

Oops biggy $$$ cash to cover an incentive to get affiliates. PPS needs cash to fire up too.

Edit - Domains, legal, banking and other stuff dealing setting up a corporation.

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02-02-2006, 04:31 PM

$7600? LOL!

Here's a guesstimate from me on some expendatures...
server - $500/month
ccbill or epoch - $750
NATS - $ not sure
Design per paysite - $1000-2500 (depending on who you use)
Content per paysite - $5000-25,000 (depending on what type, whether or not its exclusive, video/pic, plugins, etc.)
Scripts - $ depends...
Advertising tools (FHG's, banners, buttons, etc.) - $ few K atleast.
Advertising costs - $ totally up to you

WAY more than $7600...

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02-02-2006, 04:32 PM

wow, i think you have actually achieved Kyle Hoppes status on GFY

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02-02-2006, 04:34 PM

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wow, i think you have actually achieved Kyle Hoppes status on GFY

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Jace, common - no one really respects your wannabe dj, CD-stealing opnion.

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02-02-2006, 04:34 PM

Try it

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02-02-2006, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by slapass

Aren't you missing some stuff?

FHG's
Pennywise or security software for members area.
Members area software
You need more content
Feeds for more content
Video and image editing
staff
marketing of affiliate program - skin here etc
hosting for affilaites
banners fpa etc

I do not have a program but I am sure there is more.

Oops biggy $$$ cash to cover an incentive to get affiliates. PPS needs cash to fire up too.

Edit - Domains, legal, banking and other stuff dealing setting up a corporation.

oh man...I can post 250 pics in a .htaccess protected folder, ask people to paypal me for access and call it a paysite
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02-02-2006, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Anna_O

Who do you think will design 3 good converting sites plus members areas for $2400?

If you know the right person/s, this one is easily covered. For one, my usual designer who seems to be "discovered" by larger companies and now I've to beg to get in schedule

Originally posted by Anna_O

And only $2000 worth of content for 3 sites?

Now you hit the nail in the head, this is beyond ridiculous, this guy should better program some kind of content stealing program like Guba or that kind of crap instead of wasting $2000 for a site that will never ever rebill
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02-02-2006, 04:50 PM

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Fuck you bitch, i have yet to fail at anything (expect math, but who care about that shit).

To be honest the fact that you failed math proves you will fail on this project ... but you can invest 7k into my program and be a 10% partner the first year of sales...

we have put in over 120k for 6 sites, EXCLUSIVE content, programing, staff, all the cost of start up capital and overhead... the sites have paid for the bills over the last 2 years... and starting our program will now bring profit into the network of sites we run... we are starting the program to double or triple out numbers we have made on our own ... without math you will never know what your investment will bring you

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02-02-2006, 04:53 PM

you need at least 15-20k to spend on content to make a good members section
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02-02-2006, 04:58 PM

Jesus...didn't realize design costs were that extensive. I don't understand why people can't just do that themselves initially if they are trying to cut costs? Does noone have any design skills anymore? I mean damn, look at all these sites nowadays. All they consist of are a header/footer/nice buttons and a basic ass template stolen from another site...and text of course. Easy.

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02-02-2006, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by QualityMpegs

Jesus...didn't realize design costs were that extensive.

Ofcourse you won't know, if you never pay your designers
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02-02-2006, 05:12 PM

where do you buy 100 megs for 1k?
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02-02-2006, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by xlogger

Jace, common - no one really respects your wannabe dj, CD-stealing opnion.

common?

cd stealing? now you are calling me a thief? on what grounds?
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02-02-2006, 05:17 PM

not trying to pick apart Nismo here but just from my experience:

Originally posted by Nismo

Here's a guesstimate from me on some expendatures...
server - $500/month

that's about right

ccbill or epoch - $750

or you can go non-visa on ccbill for free to start and still get some decent signups. I think it's safe to say that most americans have both visa and mastercard and will use MC if visa isn't available. there are third party systems that do not charge visa fees if you know who to ask (I'm not telling so don't ask me).

NATS - $ not sure

always a nice option but not aboslutely needed to start with. ccbill will give you everything you need for free.

Design per paysite - $1000-2500 (depending on who you use)

or do it yourself for free if you have basic photoshop skills.

Content per paysite - $5000-25,000 (depending on what type, whether or not its exclusive, video/pic, plugins, etc.)

$2000 of cheap content will get you a site with more content than probably 90% of the sites on the web. the site won't rebill very well however with so little content.

Advertising tools (FHG's, banners, buttons, etc.) - $ few K atleast.

again it depends if he can do any of this himself.

Advertising costs - $ totally up to you
WAY more than $7600...

monthly server fees and a couple/few grand in content is really all that's needed for a bare bones startup. forget about getting any decent affiliates like that (which is the thread title) however it can be pretty cheap to start up a site.

it'd cost a ton more to get it to a point that it would attract affiliates in most instances, although some of these non-nude sites with exclusive content are little more than the example I've given above with an amateur 18 year old model doing a shoot for $200/day.
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02-02-2006, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by Jace

common?

cd stealing? now you are calling me a thief? on what grounds?

Yes. Dont like it? Come sue me. You said a lot of things about me, with no proof. Why should i?

Btw, content, i already have. ;)

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02-02-2006, 05:21 PM

let me know how much you spend i plan on turning evildollars.com into an aff program

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02-02-2006, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by skinnywussy

There's something a little backwards about the design costing more than the content.

Not really

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02-02-2006, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by xlogger

Yes. Dont like it? Come sue me. You said a lot of things about me, with no proof. Why should i?

Btw, content, i already have. ;)

So you're admitting to spreading lies? Someone ban this motherfucker
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02-02-2006, 05:23 PM

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Fuck you bitch, i have yet to fail at anything (expect math, but who care about that shit).

and spelling.

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02-02-2006, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by JamesK

So you're admitting to spreading lies? Someone ban this motherfucker

No, he made a track with someone elces song. Ask him about it, he knows. ;)

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