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12-18-2004, 01:37 PM

I just heard a great story on the news.
2 weeks ago a man was beat to death in a fairly public place, this man was convicted of indecent acts on several children ranging from only months old to 5 years old. He got 20 years, searved 17 and was released, He moved to the city I live in.

In a small mall he was shopping when a few "thugs" reconized who he was and started to beat on him, his injuries caused him to die 3 days later in hospital.

No one said they saw anything happen, only him bleeding on the floor.

This mans sister is outraged now that the police arent investigating or anything, not even pulling video from stores that might have caught something.

Personaly I think this guy got what he deserved, I hope his death was very painfull and drawn out as long as possible.
And I really hope the cops continue to not look into this case.

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12-18-2004, 01:42 PM

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12-18-2004, 01:43 PM

I don't think that the guy got what he "Deserved"

Thats pretty slanted thinking on your part to think that..

The guy served 17 years for his crimes, do you know if he was re-habilitated or not?

Do you know if he was actively in counseling for his dysfunctions?

Do you know if he was on medication to help him control his urges?

Most likely he was as part of his porole.

These people commited murder, they should be equally punished for a crime like anyone else.. This is a prime example of how idiotic some people are and how skewed our justice system is.

Now... had the guy been killed when he first got into prison, well maybe I would not have a problem with his death, animals killing animals..

But when he's done his time and he gets murdered thats a little fucked up if you ask me..

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12-18-2004, 01:43 PM

Good . He should have been killed in prison any fucking way

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12-18-2004, 01:44 PM

well to take the innocents from a child he deserves to die
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12-18-2004, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by media
I don't think that the guy got what he "Deserved"

Thats pretty slanted thinking on your part to think that..

The guy served 17 years for his crimes, do you know if he was re-habilitated or not?

Do you know if he was actively in counseling for his dysfunctions?

Do you know if he was on medication to help him control his urges?

Most likely he was as part of his porole.

These people commited murder, they should be equally punished for a crime like anyone else.. This is a prime example of how idiotic some people are and how skewed our justice system is.

Now... had the guy been killed when he first got into prison, well maybe I would not have a problem with his death, animals killing animals..

But when he's done his time and he gets murdered thats a little fucked up if you ask me..

So epiccash's stance on pedophila is that it's accpetable. noted!

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12-18-2004, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by media
I don't think that the guy got what he "Deserved"

Thats pretty slanted thinking on your part to think that..

The guy served 17 years for his crimes, do you know if he was re-habilitated or not?

Do you know if he was actively in counseling for his dysfunctions?

Do you know if he was on medication to help him control his urges?

Most likely he was as part of his porole.

These people commited murder, they should be equally punished for a crime like anyone else.. This is a prime example of how idiotic some people are and how skewed our justice system is.

Now... had the guy been killed when he first got into prison, well maybe I would not have a problem with his death, animals killing animals..

But when he's done his time and he gets murdered thats a little fucked up if you ask me..

Yes -- let's forget pedophile's recidivism stats...

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12-18-2004, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by BloodFart
So epiccash's stance on pedophila is that it's accpetable. noted!

It's also noted that you're a moron. Do you know how to comprehend what you read?

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12-18-2004, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by BloodFart
So epiccash's stance on pedophila is that it's accpetable. noted!

How does my above statement say that we endorse pedophiles? Your a jackass.. just so you know I was molested as a child, I have a strong hate for the fuck that took "MY INNOCENSE" but that does not mean that I want to see someone else murder the guy.. If anyone is gonna murder someone it should be the victem killing the predator.. Or kill his ass when he gets into jail, not when he's already released and may have severe remorse for his crimes and might be working on doing all in his power to prevent that from happening again..

You wanna make some stupid half cocked remarks about me and my stance on things and skew it towards what a companies belief is then you are an idiot..

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12-18-2004, 01:50 PM

The thugs did the right thing.

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12-18-2004, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by media
I don't think that the guy got what he "Deserved"

Thats pretty slanted thinking on your part to think that..

The guy served 17 years for his crimes, do you know if he was re-habilitated or not?

Do you know if he was actively in counseling for his dysfunctions?

Do you know if he was on medication to help him control his urges?

Most likely he was as part of his porole.

These people commited murder, they should be equally punished for a crime like anyone else.. This is a prime example of how idiotic some people are and how skewed our justice system is.

Now... had the guy been killed when he first got into prison, well maybe I would not have a problem with his death, animals killing animals..

But when he's done his time and he gets murdered thats a little fucked up if you ask me..

STFU the bastard deserved to die, to bad he wasnt tortured, fuck his medical condition, meds or whatever the fuck is wrong with him, he is a fucko for screwing with little kids, im glad he is dead,

doing 17 years is nothing compared to raping a child, i hope you get raped and no one does anything about it.
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12-18-2004, 01:52 PM

I love people who support vigilantism.

I remember the mentally handicapped guy in Dallas who moved into a house where the previous renter was a convicted sex offender.

Some "heroes" decided to exact some justice and found the info on one of those notification websites done by the state.

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12-18-2004, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by broke
Yes -- let's forget pedophile's recidivism stats...

Once a pedo, always a pedo, I know this.. but does is that cause for vigilantism????

I don't fucking think so.. and this is my whole point.. these people beat a man to death thinking that they should be immune from something they did, FUCK NO, they should be locked up just the same...

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12-18-2004, 01:52 PM

The guys who did this are a much bigger danger to society than the guy who got murdered was.

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12-18-2004, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by MetaMan
STFU the bastard deserved to die, to bad he wasnt tortured, fuck his medical condition, meds or whatever the fuck is wrong with him, he is a fucko for screwing with little kids, im glad he is dead,

doing 17 years is nothing compared to raping a child, i hope you get raped and no one does anything about it.

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12-18-2004, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by BloodFart
So epiccash's stance on pedophila is that it's accpetable. noted!

are you a fucking idiot? read what the guy wrote.

I agree, you cant just have people going around killing people based on their own judgement. The police should be investigating this matter and not for the pedophile, but to get those thugs off the street.

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12-18-2004, 01:55 PM

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Yes -- let's forget pedophile's recidivism stats...

Then the fucking laws should be changed. It does not excuse murder.

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12-18-2004, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by sean416
are you fucking idiot? read what the guy wrote.

I agree, you cant just have people going around killing people based on their own judgement. The police should be investigating this matter and not for the pedophile, but to get those thugs off the street.

I'm happy to see that there are some people with "RATIONAL" thought process in their heads here...

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12-18-2004, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by media
I don't think that the guy got what he "Deserved"

Thats pretty slanted thinking on your part to think that..

The guy served 17 years for his crimes, do you know if he was re-habilitated or not?

Do you know if he was actively in counseling for his dysfunctions?

Do you know if he was on medication to help him control his urges?

Most likely he was as part of his porole.

These people commited murder, they should be equally punished for a crime like anyone else.. This is a prime example of how idiotic some people are and how skewed our justice system is.

Now... had the guy been killed when he first got into prison, well maybe I would not have a problem with his death, animals killing animals..

But when he's done his time and he gets murdered thats a little fucked up if you ask me..

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12-18-2004, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by media
Once a pedo, always a pedo, I know this.. but does is that cause for vigilantism????

I don't fucking think so.. and this is my whole point..

Agreed.

Originally posted by media
these people beat a man to death thinking that they should be immune from something they did, FUCK NO, they should be locked up just the same...

Agreed.

I'm not going to cry one tear for the dead pedo, though. Just as I won't cry a tear when his killers are convicted (and they will be).

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12-18-2004, 01:57 PM

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12-18-2004, 01:58 PM

I don't believe people like him DESERVE to have the CHANCE to be rehabilitated.
I believe that to be an action punishable by death, regardless of his mental state.

No excuses about insanity, no excuses about needing medication or needing councelling because he had an abused young life.

If you rape or molest a child in any way, you should die.
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12-18-2004, 01:58 PM

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Then the fucking laws should be changed. It does not excuse murder.

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12-18-2004, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
"An Eye for an Eye Leaves the Whole World Blind"

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Another good one is:

"You can judge a society on the way it treats it's animals" - Ghandi

Some of these same people who support vigilantism are the same people laughing when animals get torchered .. I am not saying everyone, but it strikes me as funny the hypocracy that can be displayed with some people..

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12-18-2004, 02:02 PM

I'm sure he got what he "deserved" already in prison. No reason to kill somebody without expecting punishment in return.

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12-18-2004, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by media
Once a pedo, always a pedo, I know this.. but does is that cause for vigilantism????

I don't fucking think so.. and this is my whole point.. these people beat a man to death thinking that they should be immune from something they did, FUCK NO, they should be locked up just the same...

once a pedo always a pedo... and you know this... and yet you think he should be able to do what he wants?

What if he was out scouting for a new kid now that hes out?
if it ok then? what if he crabbed a kid and then they beat him? is that ok? or still wrong, let him take the kid home to see if he jsut wanted to read a story for them?

The details on this case are so lacking its not even funny, a good amount of christmas shoppers had to have seen something, but no one came forward, for all I know it was all the victims that beat him to death. the news is just saying "thugs".

I personally stand that pedophile is the lowest of the low. and should NOT be given a second chance to recommit.

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12-18-2004, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by BradM
I don't believe people like him DESERVE to have the CHANCE to be rehabilitated.
I believe that to be an action punishable by death, regardless of his mental state.

No excuses about insanity, no excuses about needing medication or needing councelling because he had an abused young life.

If you rape or molest a child in any way, you should die.

Brad, I agree with alot of your comments.. but does this mean that AFTER the fact of someone serving their time that they should be beaten in a public place? Beaten by someone who was not legally handed down the responsibilty of punishment of this predator?

I think there should be lifetime sentencing on alot of these sick fucks..
Like I said, let the animals in prison take his life, or let someone who was handed down orders to deal with the guy..

Vigilatism is a crime as well in certain instances.. murdering someone is a crime as well..

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12-18-2004, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by jeffrey
once a pedo always a pedo... and you know this... and yet you think he should be able to do what he wants?

Where did I ever say he should be free to commit another crime? Read my above posts again.. I am merely saying that I don't think the guy got what he deserved in the end.. Something handed to him by some people who had no right to kill him..

If it was the victim then I would feel a bit different..

But civilans killing people is not something that should be allowed in our society, just like touching kids is not allowed..

I know first hand more than alot of people here what happens to someone when they are molested, so I don't think I really have to justify alot of my thinking, I just tend to have thought into alot more than these idiots who beat this man to death might have...

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12-18-2004, 02:08 PM

Well media... now you're digging at the root of me. ;) I'm still divided on the issue myself but here it goes.

The law is not always right. For example why do spammers get 10 years but murderers sometimes get 6? Just a quick example.

The guy should not have been released to begin with according to how I think the system should work. But he was so I will base an opinion on that.

The guys who did it saw him, recognized him and beat him into a state where he died 3 days later. They took the law into their own hands which is... well against the law. However this guy commited a crime, which to me is the worst crime a human can commit- and was released from confinment.

Now in a PERFECT world- they should get away with it. However what they did was wrong... and thus the people responsible should be charged with murder. Which is the next most horrible crime there is.

I believe ANY form of murder is punishable by death- if the evidence is so overwhelming there is no reason of doubt the person is guilty.
Therefore those responsible for the murder of the pedophile should be put to death.

But that's just how I see it working.
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12-18-2004, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by BradM
Well media... now you're digging at the root of me. ;) I'm still divided on the issue myself but here it goes.

The law is not always right. For example why do spammers get 10 years but murderers sometimes get 6? Just a quick example.

The guy should not have been released to begin with according to how I think the system should work. But he was so I will base an opinion on that.

The guys who did it saw him, recognized him and beat him into a state where he died 3 days later. They took the law into their own hands which is... well against the law. However this guy commited a crime, which to me is the worst crime a human can commit- and was released from confinment.

Now in a PERFECT world- they should get away with it. However what they did was wrong... and thus the people responsible should be charged with murder. Which is the next most horrible crime there is.

I believe ANY form of murder is punishable by death- if the evidence is so overwhelming there is no reason of doubt the person is guilty.
Therefore those responsible for the murder of the pedophile should be put to death.

But that's just how I see it working.

All your thoughts are valid here... Point being though, he was poroled, he was released, people took it into their own hands and murdered him.. and this is not a perfect world..

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12-18-2004, 02:12 PM

Let me put it this way:

1. Given recidivism stats for pedophiles...
I wish I had killed him.

2. I know killing him is wrong and would land me in jail.

3. I would hold my head high and proudly serve the time I deserved for his murder.

Don't do the crime if you're not willing to do the time. This free pass bullshit for killing someone 'people' don't like is simply that... bullshit.

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12-18-2004, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by broke
Let me put it this way:

1. Given recidivism stats for pedophiles...
I wish I had killed him.

2. I know killing him is wrong and would land me in jail.

3. I would hold my head high and proudly serve the time I deserved for his murder.

Don't do the crime if you're not willing to do the time. This free pass bullshit for killing someone 'people' don't like is simply that... bullshit.

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12-18-2004, 02:15 PM

Not sure how to feel about this. Having self-appointed vigilantes dealing out "justice" is not a good thing, yet I have to admit if anyone had ever fucked with my child like that I would've killed him and done the time.

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12-18-2004, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by media
Where did I ever say he should be free to commit another crime? Read my above posts again.. I am merely saying that I don't think the guy got what he deserved in the end.. Something handed to him by some people who had no right to kill him..

You said you KNOW once a pedo ALWAYS a pedo.... and yet you said, its ok that hes out of jail (in a way, counceling, meds, whatever) so maybe his "new turn on life" is just a way to get out of jail and close to kids???

I didnt say they had the right to kill him, but the fact that they did doesnt bother me, nor does the cops not looking into it.

You say you were a victim as a child, did this happening make your life better? doubt it, are you doing ok in life... seems you are, are most victims like you, I dont think so.

I know a girl that I went to highschool was sexually abused as a child by her father, and she was scared of guys, very jumpy in crowds and morso with only a couple people aroun, she just did not enjoy life. She ended up taking her life a week befor graduation after she found out her dad got out of jail several years early. I KNOW the wrong person died in that situation, She was a very nice girl, and it wasa very sad day when I learned of this news.

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12-18-2004, 02:16 PM

I feel both ways, he deserved it... but he had served his crime. Maybe convicted pedophiles shouldnt be put back into public, but a community just for them or something.

its not something i like to think about
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12-18-2004, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by media
I don't think that the guy got what he "Deserved"

Thats pretty slanted thinking on your part to think that..

The guy served 17 years for his crimes, do you know if he was re-habilitated or not?

Do you know if he was actively in counseling for his dysfunctions?

Do you know if he was on medication to help him control his urges?

Most likely he was as part of his porole.

These people commited murder, they should be equally punished for a crime like anyone else.. This is a prime example of how idiotic some people are and how skewed our justice system is.

Now... had the guy been killed when he first got into prison, well maybe I would not have a problem with his death, animals killing animals..

But when he's done his time and he gets murdered thats a little fucked up if you ask me..

Agreed.

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12-18-2004, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by media
All your thoughts are valid here... Point being though, he was poroled, he was released, people took it into their own hands and murdered him.. and this is not a perfect world..

Absolutely. Which means the ones responsible should get what they deserve. My system = death.
Whatever the law hands out will be according to the law. They will be punished and justifyably so.
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12-18-2004, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by escorpio
Not sure how to feel about this. Having self-appointed vigilantes dealing out "justice" is not a good thing, yet I have to admit if anyone had ever fucked with my child like that I would've killed him and done the time.

oh I agree with that 100% I would make it slow and painful for him too. but if I got away with it, I wouldnt feel guilty at all.
Besides I bet in jail a pedo killer will do alright.

I really do wish I knew more about what happened, but no one is coming forward with anything.
What if these "thugs" beat him to death after they saw him grab a child? is it moer ok then?

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12-18-2004, 02:23 PM

Basicly all I am saying is no one has the right to take things into their own hands and kill someone else, regardless of who it is.. You kill someone you are a criminal.. maybe not equal to a child molested, but you are in the same violent crime area, and you're a scurge on society.. your ass should be locked the fuck up and sent to jail forever..

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12-18-2004, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by jeffrey
What if these "thugs" beat him to death after they saw him grab a child? is it moer ok then?

Simple answer? No.

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12-18-2004, 02:25 PM

I honestly don't get all you people saying that child abuse is "the worst crime imaginable". Yes, it's disgusting, yes, it's wrong, but no, it is by no means even close to being the worst thing that can happen to someone.

Should those that do it be put away? Hell yeah.
Should they be put away for good if there's a chance that they could do it again? Hell yeah.
Do they deserve to die for something that is essentially a mental illness? Ofcourse not!

I just don't get how everyone is so eager to kill people, I honestly don't.

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12-18-2004, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by punkworld

I just don't get how everyone is so eager to kill people, I honestly don't.

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12-18-2004, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by jeffrey
world is over populated, gotta weed out the gene pool.

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12-18-2004, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by jeffrey
world is over populated, gotta weed out the gene pool.

I'm all for weeding out the gene pool, I'd just prefer to start with the stupid people... e.g. the ones who don't understand that it is detrimental to the overall health of a society if its members assume the right to kill eachother for whatever reason they consider sufficient.

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12-18-2004, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by punkworld
I just don't get how everyone is so eager to kill people, I honestly don't.

Because so many of them deserve it, that's why.

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12-18-2004, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by punkworld
I honestly don't get all you people saying that child abuse is "the worst crime imaginable".

It fucks a person up sometimes beyond being able to function in normal society.
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12-18-2004, 02:38 PM

Too bad he polluted this earth for 17 extra years.

Messing with children. Fuck him.

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12-18-2004, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by jeffrey
world is over populated, gotta weed out the gene pool.

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12-18-2004, 02:41 PM

Topic: Pedo beat to death, cops do nothing.
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12-18-2004, 02:41 PM

One of the problems that I have with this, is that the State attorneys office will very often make a deal wit someone who may have been present, but was not an actual participant ( for example the maid in the upstairs room ) and charge them using the little clause, " knew or should have known" Now that person as well has been listed at a sexual predator, or rapist . Does that person deserve this? No. Where you there to know for a fact that this guy did the crime that he was put in jail for? No.

Is there a chance that he did not do the crime? Hell Yes!

There was a man in Prison in Florida for 20 years for murder, on death row, and did not do the crime. He was let go last year.

TOOOOO many If's in the law for this type of thing to be done.

He did his time. that should have been it.

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