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  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #1

    These kinds mails are so frustrating.

    I wanted to pay for watching Your site. Im from Poland and I have VISA card. I\'m sure that everything with the card is OK (my bank confirmed that the card is OK). But I cannot make a transaction with CCbil.Igot \" card declined by pre auth\" I was trying with another card and everything remain the same.Probably the problem is that the ccbill is a US company and doesn\'t have an agreement with Polish banks. Please inform me how can I pay those 24 bucks.
    Best Regards
    adam

    Scrubbing and getting less chargebacks is good but i have the feeling ccbill scrubs so goddamn hard, its ridiculous.

    CCbill several times rejected my perfectly fine mastercard as well.
  • polish_aristocrat
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2002
    • 40377

    #2
    I can confirm this, I cannot use my polish card to enter US porn sites. And other polish webmasters confirmed the same

    Both CCbill and Epoch decline polish cards by default. You could have a card with the highest limit, but it would still be declined.

    From US processors only Jettis and - very rarely - Ibill accepted polish cards. But Jettis merged somehow with Epoch I think and Ibill...everyone knows the story.

    European processors accept polish cards with no problems though.


    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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    • polish_aristocrat
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2002
      • 40377

      #3
      Funny thing this is what I have been told by CCbill when I inquired about their processing for my paysite.


      "Yes you can still offer Dialer access in areas that the banks are blocked from signups. Although Poland is not a blocked country for us."



      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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      • Dirty F
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2001
        • 59204

        #4
        Typo's in thread titles are also frustrating.

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        • tradermcduck
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2001
          • 2362

          #5
          Something like this on your join page

          Join By Snail Mail
          Send $XX to
          PO Box Address
          including a user/pass plus email address

          is a cheap solution for this problem.

          MarkB

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          • Va2k
            I’m still alive barley.
            • Oct 2001
            • 10060

            #6
            Yes this happens all the time. If I don't get an email daily about it then I would be scared lol... I send them to epoch and they normaly get right in. Or send them to paypal or have them send me check or moneyorder or even cash I have 4 money orders sitting here at the moment lol BUTTTTT

            ccbill has always been on top of things when I needed it so I guess it all works out in the end *shrugs*

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            • polish_aristocrat
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2002
              • 40377

              #7
              Originally posted by tradermcduck
              Something like this on your join page

              Join By Snail Mail
              Send $XX to
              PO Box Address
              including a user/pass plus email address

              is a cheap solution for this problem.

              Money can get stolen by the post in that case :-)
              And wire transfer is probably also impossible since it would cost him $25 to send the $25 to you.
              And noone in Poland will consciously use a dialer.

              so Battus will lose a customer and that guy will continue to get his porn on TGP's....
              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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              • Va2k
                I’m still alive barley.
                • Oct 2001
                • 10060

                #8
                Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                Money can get stolen by the post in that case :-)
                And wire transfer is probably also impossible since it would cost him $25 to send the $25 to you.
                And noone in Poland will consciously use a dialer.

                so Battus will lose a customer and that guy will continue to get his porn on TGP's....
                Yea I agree to a point I forgot to mention if they send me money or checks in snail mail I give them 2 months for the price of a month and a half sometimes two months lol

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                • mrthumbs
                  salad tossing sig guy
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 11702

                  #9
                  You kinds frustrate me Battus

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                  • Mefo
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 6169

                    #10
                    time for a good processor

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                    • Dirty F
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 59204

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mrthumbs
                      You kinds frustrate me Battus
                      Haha

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                      • polish_aristocrat
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 40377

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mefo
                        time for a good processor
                        what processor?
                        I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                        • corvette
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 7880

                          #13
                          battus, if you want us to look at the specific decline reason, contact me, you have me on icq
                          If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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                          • kaliboy2g
                            So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 10963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by va2k
                            Yea I agree to a point I forgot to mention if they send me money or checks in snail mail I give them 2 months for the price of a month and a half sometimes two months lol

                            Is that worth it though. Busting your ass off for a couple of bucks;
                            Care about me?
                            Who?
                            Me!
                            Who?

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                            • Verotel
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 202

                              #15
                              For what it's worth and I'm guessing that's nothing for Badass but maybe something for the rest of you, Verotel accepts Polish Visa and MC credit cards as well as webmasters registering from Poland for processing.

                              What Badass said above about not being able to process Polish credit card transactions because they (the processor) don't have an agreement with Polish banks isn't correct. As a merchant with a merchant account to acquire credit card transactions (i.e., Visa and/or MC) it is not necessary that the merchant himself have a relationship with any particular bank that ISSUES Visa or MC credit cards. However, due to risks involved with processing transactions from certain countries the merchant himself or the acquiring bank can decide not to accept transactions from creidt cards ISSUED in particular countries.

                              Darryl McDade
                              Merchant Relationship Executive
                              Verotel Merchant Services BV

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                              • Nylz
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 8285

                                #16
                                lolllllll @ Badass
                                No sig.

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                                • Fake Nick
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Jul 2004
                                  • 7708

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Verotel
                                  For what it's worth and I'm guessing that's nothing for Badass but maybe something for the rest of you, Verotel accepts Polish Visa and MC credit cards as well as webmasters registering from Poland for processing.

                                  What Badass said above about not being able to process Polish credit card transactions because they (the processor) don't have an agreement with Polish banks isn't correct. As a merchant with a merchant account to acquire credit card transactions (i.e., Visa and/or MC) it is not necessary that the merchant himself have a relationship with any particular bank that ISSUES Visa or MC credit cards. However, due to risks involved with processing transactions from certain countries the merchant himself or the acquiring bank can decide not to accept transactions from creidt cards ISSUED in particular countries.


                                  learn to read before you come here spamming idiot

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                                  • eldominik
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 454

                                    #18
                                    But why for one POSSIBLE chargeback so huge number of credit cards are scrubbed.

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                                    • Verotel
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 202

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                      learn to read before you come here spamming idiot
                                      I did but evidently you didn't. This may come in handy for you in the future: Official Hooked on Phonics Website

                                      Originally posted by Battuss
                                      Probably the problem is that the ccbill is a US company and doesn\'t have an agreement with Polish banks.
                                      Originally posted by Mefo
                                      time for a good processor
                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                      what processor?
                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                      I can confirm this, I cannot use my polish card to enter US porn sites. And other polish webmasters confirmed the same

                                      Both CCbill and Epoch decline polish cards by default. You could have a card with the highest limit, but it would still be declined.

                                      From US processors only Jettis and - very rarely - Ibill accepted polish cards. But Jettis merged somehow with Epoch I think and Ibill...everyone knows the story.

                                      European processors accept polish cards with no problems though.
                                      Maybe FAKE NICK will be able to grasp the relevancy given the quoted posts but I won't hold my breath.
                                      Darryl McDade
                                      Merchant Relationship Executive
                                      Verotel Merchant Services BV

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                                      • Fake Nick
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Jul 2004
                                        • 7708

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Verotel
                                        I did but evidently you didn't. This may come in handy for you in the future: Official Hooked on Phonics Website





                                        Maybe FAKE NICK will be able to grasp the relevancy given the quoted posts but I won't hold my breath.


                                        hahahahahahahaha fuckin IDIOT if anyone is HOOKED ON PHONICS it wil be YOU



                                        Battuss knows god damn well how the visa shit works it HIS SURFER that doesnt , Battus doenst claim the polish banks have no agreemenst with us banks and thats why it wont work his FUCKIN SURFER does

                                        read bitch before you claim I am on drugs

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                                        • Verotel
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 202

                                          #21
                                          To avoid confusion please replace in my previous post above:

                                          What Badass said

                                          With:

                                          What was written in Badass' message

                                          Does that help you Nick? Picky picky picky
                                          Darryl McDade
                                          Merchant Relationship Executive
                                          Verotel Merchant Services BV

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                                          • Verotel
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 202

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                            read bitch before you claim I am on drugs
                                            Did anyone mention drugs?
                                            Darryl McDade
                                            Merchant Relationship Executive
                                            Verotel Merchant Services BV

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                                            • Fake Nick
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Jul 2004
                                              • 7708

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Verotel
                                              To avoid confusion please replace in my previous post above:

                                              What Badass said

                                              With:

                                              What was written in Badass' message

                                              Does that help you Nick? Picky picky picky


                                              that and the fact you keep on calling him badass

                                              made me post my comment that you should learn to read before spamming your shit here


                                              your entire comment was based on EDUCATING battus when there was no need for it

                                              idiot

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                                              • Fake Nick
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jul 2004
                                                • 7708

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Verotel
                                                Did anyone mention drugs?

                                                I do now

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                                                • More Booze
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 5116

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Verotel
                                                  For what it's worth and I'm guessing that's nothing for Badass but maybe something for the rest of you, Verotel accepts Polish Visa and MC credit cards as well as webmasters registering from Poland for processing.

                                                  What Badass said above about not being able to process Polish credit card transactions because they (the processor) don't have an agreement with Polish banks isn't correct. As a merchant with a merchant account to acquire credit card transactions (i.e., Visa and/or MC) it is not necessary that the merchant himself have a relationship with any particular bank that ISSUES Visa or MC credit cards. However, due to risks involved with processing transactions from certain countries the merchant himself or the acquiring bank can decide not to accept transactions from creidt cards ISSUED in particular countries.

                                                  Verotel rocks! I convert way better with the verotel sites im promoting than any other.

                                                  Verotel: Do you have any plans to add epassporte as a payment option?

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                                                  • Verotel
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 202

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                                    that and the fact you keep on calling him badass

                                                    made me post my comment that you should learn to read before spamming your shit here


                                                    your entire comment was based on EDUCATING battus when there was no need for it

                                                    idiot
                                                    You ASSumed my comment was based on educating Buttass but it was meant to clear up any potential misunderstandings for anyone reading the post...like newbies perhaps.

                                                    And you shouldn't go getting emotional about what I call Buttass because he and I have had an ongoing love hate relationship for some time now and that really shouldn't concern you.
                                                    Darryl McDade
                                                    Merchant Relationship Executive
                                                    Verotel Merchant Services BV

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                                                    • Verotel
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 202

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by More Booze
                                                      Verotel rocks! I convert way better with the verotel sites im promoting than any other.

                                                      Verotel: Do you have any plans to add epassporte as a payment option?
                                                      Thanks for your support. I haven't been told anything about us adding epassport.
                                                      Darryl McDade
                                                      Merchant Relationship Executive
                                                      Verotel Merchant Services BV

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                                                      • Fake Nick
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                        • 7708

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Verotel
                                                        You ASSumed my comment was based on educating Buttass but it was meant to clear up any potential misunderstandings for anyone reading the post...like newbies perhaps.

                                                        And you shouldn't go getting emotional about what I call Buttass because he and I have had an ongoing love hate relationship for some time now and that really shouldn't concern you.

                                                        it was you suck

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                                                        • Verotel
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 202

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                                          it was you suck
                                                          And here I thought I was corresponding with an intelligent life form.

                                                          Please read the first six (6) letters of my previous post.
                                                          Darryl McDade
                                                          Merchant Relationship Executive
                                                          Verotel Merchant Services BV

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                                                          • Fake Nick
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                            • 7708

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Verotel
                                                            And here I thought I was corresponding with an intelligent life form.

                                                            Please read the first six (6) letters of my previous post.

                                                            pls reread your own original post

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