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  • bu((aneer
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2004
    • 651

    #1

    MAS or CARMA????

    Does MAS have a lease option????


    Which is the better product??
  • PimpSticky
    Registered User
    • Jul 2001
    • 40

    #2
    I dont know anything about carma but i have been using MAS for a while now and its top notch. After years of manually updating sites i wouldnt even launch one now without it. I dont know if they have a lease option but you should contact Oystein he may be able to work something out with you.
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    • jmk
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2002
      • 5391

      #3
      Contact Oystein he will walk you through MAS

      good stuff and good peeps btw!

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      • Pistol
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2002
        • 161

        #4
        We've recently re-developed our entire network using MAS and we're very happy with it. There are various leased content providers (feeds) that are a part of the suite that you can integrate in about 5 mins flat - it's a nice value-add.

        It's very well priced - keep that in mind when you're considering the lease option.

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        • DirtyDanza
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2002
          • 8375

          #5
          we are using CARMA and could not be happier
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          • Jace
            FBOP Class Of 2013
            • Jan 2004
            • 35562

            #6
            I don't use either of those, I use SiteDepth, and I can tell after having the install of V3 on my box a few days ago, it is amazing.....some cool shit to be seen with the new SiteDepth www.sitedepth.com

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            • RichMan
              Registered User
              • Apr 2003
              • 48

              #7
              Originally posted by Pistol
              We've recently re-developed our entire network using MAS and we're very happy with it. There are various leased content providers (feeds) that are a part of the suite that you can integrate in about 5 mins flat - it's a nice value-add.

              It's very well priced - keep that in mind when you're considering the lease option.
              I too use the MAS system and it?s the best system around! I use to be tied to a programmer who ran my in-house content management system, but he bailed on me, leaving me holding my dick in my hands. I had to start from scratch and I picked the MAS system after seeing all the features they offer. Now that I use the MAS system, I can sleep at night! I have been using their system for about a year now! Whenever I need help with something they are right their for me! The best part for me, I know they are not going to bail on me! They are very professional and do a very clean and fast job! I would recommend them to anyone looking to move to the next level by going to a content management system! They are great guys!

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              • Pornwolf
                Drunk and Unruly
                • Jan 2002
                • 22712

                #8
                Sounds like I'm gonna have to give MAS a shot. I never heard of Carma though.
                I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

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                • quantum-x
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 6863

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jace
                  I don't use either of those, I use SiteDepth, and I can tell after having the install of V3 on my box a few days ago, it is amazing.....some cool shit to be seen with the new SiteDepth www.sitedepth.com
                  I'm over SD. I've done abotu 15+ installs of it. It sucks when you compare it to something good, like CARMA.
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                  • quantum-x
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 6863

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pornwolf
                    Sounds like I'm gonna have to give MAS a shot. I never heard of Carma though.
                    Member / tour / content management from NATS.
                    Enough said, really :D
                    It does things that only SD can dream of!

                    Its templating system is great (uses smarty) - so you can do ANYTHING you want w/ your member's areas. Its content publishing script is even better - you can setup rules like 'release at least 2 blowjob sets w/ XYZ actor every week' and 'release 5 straight masturbation sets every monday at 5pm'
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                    • Jace
                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 35562

                      #11
                      Originally posted by quantum-x
                      I'm over SD. I've done abotu 15+ installs of it. It sucks when you compare it to something good, like CARMA.
                      just out of curiosity, what is different about it, I just checked the feature set of Carma again and saw all the same features that sitedepth has...and from what i can tell Sitedepth3 has a few more features that Carma doesn't.....is there a live demo of Carma somewhere?

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                      • quantum-x
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 6863

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jace
                        just out of curiosity, what is different about it, I just checked the feature set of Carma again and saw all the same features that sitedepth has...and from what i can tell Sitedepth3 has a few more features that Carma doesn't.....is there a live demo of Carma somewhere?
                        You'll have to hit up that NATS guys over that.

                        Again, I'm not saying that I am over SD for no reason. You are correct, at a glance, they appear to be similar products.

                        First and foremost, the *largest* difference is support.
                        I could get at least 5 people to post here shooting down SD. If you have a product that runs, awesome. If it breaks, I hope you manage to get it fixed in a timely fashion.
                        CARMA support is great. There's a comprehensive knowledge base, and you know that sending a ticket will get you a response, usually in a few hours, and always less than 24. Work and help are always free. Mods generally are too. They're helping us migrate all our content from SD (and that's a lot), FOC.

                        Comparing functions:
                        SD Templates vs. CARMA templates
                        SD uses quite a restrictive templating system. You're very muchly limited to doing what SD wants to do. You can't, for example, list 3 pictures, insert a teaser shot from another site, insert a few more.
                        CARMA uses SMARTY is its templating system - for anyone who knows about it, that's really enough said. You can do ANYTHING with your templates.
                        Example? I converted 5 members areas into WAP (mobile phone compatible) areas in under 2 hours. I'd never have been able to do it in SD.

                        Content:
                        Without seriously using custom variables, it's hard to categorise your content in SD. You have to put your content into a section, which will classify it (ie, Solo girls, Masturbation) whereas in CARMA, you classify the content.
                        You can set - Location (as many as you need), say 'Outdoors', 'In the Park' - the type - Softcore, Straight.. The Actor 'Raven Riley' (and the system knows from previous sets that Raven Riley is a 19yo brunette with a latina type body, b cup breasts, shaved pussy and long hair).. and the categories, again as many as you want.. say.. Solo, Masutbation, Public Nudity, Orgasm - you make up as many as you need.

                        That done - when creating rules to update your site, you can very easily pinpoint content - so you can say (and it is literally this specific)
                        Release 'at least' '2' sets of 'solo or orgasm' content where the actor is 'raven riley' or has 'brown hair' every 'one week'

                        Set up a few rules like that, and your site updates, with variety.
                        IIRC, in SD, you can only set the publish date for sets, and release content (you can't specify types)

                        Of course, it ties in with NATS, and will also tie in SPARTA - so you can see exactly what member downloaded what, see which affiliates sent who, and also create memer's areas around these variables (ie: members older than 2 weeks get bonuses.. or whatever you want to do)

                        That said any done, both handle member's areas, and both do good jobs.
                        To reiterate, the main difference is support, I believe. I do templating / programming / support for both SD and CARMA, and I'm only going from my experiences and my clients' comments.

                        As a PS - if you want help, templating or custom mods written for SD, hit me up. Likewise CARMA assistance.

                        Hope this helps someone ;)
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                        • TMM_John
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                          • May 2004
                          • 6664

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jace
                          just out of curiosity, what is different about it, I just checked the feature set of Carma again and saw all the same features that sitedepth has...and from what i can tell Sitedepth3 has a few more features that Carma doesn't.....is there a live demo of Carma somewhere?
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                          • wtfent
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                            • Nov 2003
                            • 3790

                            #14
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                            • Nathan
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3108

                              #15
                              Hi everyone,

                              the CARMA website sadly is not yet very complete in terms of a list of features. If you are wondering, I suggest you contact us to get you a login for the demo, best way really.

                              Other than that, we'll be adding a better list of features to the site very soon.
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                              • quantum-x
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2002
                                • 6863

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Nathan
                                Hi everyone,

                                the CARMA website sadly is not yet very complete in terms of a list of features. If you are wondering, I suggest you contact us to get you a login for the demo, best way really.

                                Other than that, we'll be adding a better list of features to the site very soon.
                                Long and the short of it.. if you can imagine it, CARMA can do it...
                                :D
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                                • Nathan
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 3108

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by quantum-x
                                  Long and the short of it.. if you can imagine it, CARMA can do it...
                                  :D
                                  Oh so very true
                                  "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
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                                  • Mr.Right - Banned For Life
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                                    • May 2005
                                    • 18314

                                    #18
                                    My webmaster knows more about this, but we purchased mas and he said it has been excellent and there supprt is fantastic.

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                                    • quantum-x
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 6863

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Nathan
                                      Oh so very true
                                      Here's what I just did in CARMA tonight.
                                      BTW, I am not affiliated w/ the guys, I'm just telling you my experience.

                                      My client wanted their member's area to also be mobile.
                                      Using the templating system, I had CARMA sending out WAP/WML headers, and 100% valid WML to take their system mobile.

                                      Only problem is, mobile phones don't support HTTPAuth (popping up password boxes) - no problems at all, for the WAP pages, I created an interface that lets the user enter their UN / PW which are then checked against the htpasswd file.. they're then validated and let in.

                                      Really, really cool stuff, and I know for a fact that I couldn't do it in SD.
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                                      • Validus
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 4012

                                        #20
                                        MAS is great! Don't know Carma... but MAS is super!

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                                        • macker
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 2161

                                          #21
                                          I have just started working with CARMA and I must say I am bowled over by the software, it really is very good and no doubt will get even better in future.

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                                          • bu((aneer
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2004
                                            • 651

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Jace
                                            I don't use either of those, I use SiteDepth, and I can tell after having the install of V3 on my box a few days ago, it is amazing.....some cool shit to be seen with the new SiteDepth www.sitedepth.com


                                            Interesting...Sitedepth is just a fraction of the cost. how does Sitedepth compare feature wise?

                                            I noticed Panchodog is using Sitedepth!

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                                            • quantum-x
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 6863

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                              Interesting...Sitedepth is just a fraction of the cost. how does Sitedepth compare feature wise?

                                              I noticed Panchodog is using Sitedepth!
                                              See my other posts, I've broken down the differences reasonably comprehensively.
                                              The major difference that you won't see in a feature list is SUPPORT.
                                              I will leave it for others to fill in the blanks here.
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                                              • bu((aneer
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2004
                                                • 651

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by quantum-x
                                                See my other posts, I've broken down the differences reasonably comprehensively.
                                                The major difference that you won't see in a feature list is SUPPORT.
                                                I will leave it for others to fill in the blanks here.


                                                Yup, just read your post..

                                                Thank you, very informative!!


                                                Did you ever at one time consider MAS?

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                                                • quantum-x
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                  • 6863

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by bu((aneer
                                                  Yup, just read your post..

                                                  Thank you, very informative!!


                                                  Did you ever at one time consider MAS?
                                                  Hi mate.
                                                  I'm sorry, I've not had experience with MAS, so I can't give you a comparison.
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