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  • Rinaldo
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2003
    • 5086
    #1

    Breaking News (A Must Read) !!!

    ASACP
    Gary Kremen and Aly Drummond have officially stepped down from the advisory board.
    http://www.pimpcafe.com/article2/art...p?article=2698

    -Based on the events that occured this past Friday involving Lightspeed Cash and Sex.com

    Where does this leave the fight against Child porn?
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    • Babagirls
      Text Writer
      • Feb 2001
      • 18812
      #2
      Irvine said that the recent changes would not affect the course of the ASACP. They will continue to expand their roll within the online adult community and seek closer ties with government agencies over the next year. They will look to fill the two empty advisory council seats in early 2005.
      ------------------------------------------------

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        • Shap
          Confirmed User
          • May 2001
          • 8313
          #3
          What happened between sex.com and lightspeed?

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            • Jace
              FBOP Class Of 2013
              • Jan 2004
              • 35562
              #4
              woah, holy shit

              i can't believe i watched this all happen...LOL

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                • J-Reel
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                  • Feb 2002
                  • 3782
                  #5
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                    • Jace
                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 35562
                      #6
                      Originally posted by shap
                      What happened between sex.com and lightspeed?
                      http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...0&pagenumber=1

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                        • GTS Mark
                          Vrume Mark
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 20912
                          #7
                          I think Gary made the right decision to step down. That Lightspeed fiasco certainly did not put him in a positive light.

                          DH

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                            • Aly
                              President, ePufferProfits
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 1881
                              #8
                              Just for the record, my departure wasn't related to that thread or anything to do with Gary Kremen.. and ASACP still has my full support.
                              .

                              .
                              Aly's ICQ: 51504163 . Aly's Email: [email protected]

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                                • Plugin Feeds K
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                                  • Nov 2004
                                  • 394
                                  #9
                                  Well, I guess he wasn't joking after all ...
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                                    • ronaldo
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                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 5475
                                      #10
                                      It's good to see people keep their word, and Aly will surely be missed.

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                                        • Phoenix
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                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 35475
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by shap
                                          What happened between sex.com and lightspeed?
                                          it is long and drwan out...but it does touch on it in the article. There was also a very large thread on it here last week.

                                          Drama..not needed.

                                          this is a serious topic, i have been watching from the sidelines closely. I feel it is important that ASACP remain a neutral and unbiased organization, it will be the only way to ensure fair representation for the entire industry. I was beginning to worry about the direction things looked to be heading. Power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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                                            • tony299
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                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 57021
                                              #12
                                              How do I get on the board ? They have seats to fill

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                                                • ronaldo
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 5475
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                  I feel it is important that ASACP remain a neutral and unbiased organization, it will be the only way to ensure fair representation for the entire industry.

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                                                    • Black Dog
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 1108
                                                      #14
                                                      It seems ASACP has lost it's way. However, in the interest of eliminating child pornography everywhere, WebcamCash will remain a member as they work this out. I encourage all ASACP members to do the same.

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                                                        • The Bootyologist
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                          • 2912
                                                          #15
                                                          that was a really fucked up thread

                                                          i hope they get this worked out quickly and move on

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                                                            • Aly
                                                              President, ePufferProfits
                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                              • 1881
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by ronaldo
                                                              It's good to see people keep their word, and Aly will surely be missed.
                                                              Hey, now I can address some of the bullshit about ASACP here without having to hold back due to being on the board... WATCH OUT!
                                                              .

                                                              .
                                                              Aly's ICQ: 51504163 . Aly's Email: [email protected]

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                                                                • Jace
                                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                  • 35562
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                  How do I get on the board ? They have seats to fill
                                                                  you are WAY too outspoken, they don't like that there

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                                                                    • Nader
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                      • 5086
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by The Bootyologist
                                                                      that was a really fucked up thread

                                                                      i hope they get this worked out quickly and move on
                                                                      i agree!

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                                                                        • Black Dog
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 1108
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Aly_AVN
                                                                          Hey, now I can address some of the bullshit about ASACP here without having to hold back due to being on the board... WATCH OUT!
                                                                          Uh oh. Here it comes!!!


                                                                          B
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                                                                            • The Bootyologist
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                              • 2912
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Aly_AVN
                                                                              Hey, now I can address some of the bullshit about ASACP here without having to hold back due to being on the board... WATCH OUT!
                                                                              we cant wait

                                                                              who has the popcorn?

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                                                                                • Manowar
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                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                  • 71528
                                                                                  #21

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                                                                                    • Marcus Aurelius
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                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                      • 14809
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Damn. that was a fast turn of events. just a few days ago it seems the thread about lightspeed was going strong, now this.

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                                                                                        • SteveLightspeed
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                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 7940
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Same bullshit, different leader

                                                                                          http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=6531

                                                                                          "ASACP is actively seeking to fill the two available spots on the council. Potential candidates must be current ASACP sponsors in order to qualify."

                                                                                          How convenient!

                                                                                          ASACP is useless, now Joan needs to go too, and take her broomstick with her.

                                                                                          Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                          Abra-cadabra!

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                                                                                            • Aly
                                                                                              President, ePufferProfits
                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                              • 1881
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                                              Same bullshit, different leader

                                                                                              http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=6531

                                                                                              "ASACP is actively seeking to fill the two available spots on the council. Potential candidates must be current ASACP sponsors in order to qualify."

                                                                                              How convenient!

                                                                                              ASACP is useless, now Joan needs to go too, and take her broomstick with her.

                                                                                              Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                              Actually Steve... (here we go!!) ... ASACP is FAR from useless. ASACP has been directly involved in the arrest and prosecution of pedophiles. You may not LIKE that they appear to have an issue with you, and that may NOT be FAIR... But DO NOT jump to the conclusion that ASACP is useless simply because they don't kike YOU... and CERTAINLY DO NOT post that as fact in a public forum... when the biggest thing you're doing is PREVENTING the protection of children.

                                                                                              You may have a valid fight... so fight it.. but watch how you go about doing that. ASACP DOES WORK.
                                                                                              .

                                                                                              .
                                                                                              Aly's ICQ: 51504163 . Aly's Email: [email protected]

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                                                                                                • Kimmykim
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                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                  • 16015
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Aly_AVN
                                                                                                  Just for the record, my departure wasn't related to that thread or anything to do with Gary Kremen.. and ASACP still has my full support.
                                                                                                  I can vouch for this one, before the drama started I had already been informed by Aly that she had already stepped down.

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                                                                                                    • Fred Quimby
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                                      • 5430
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I feel it is important that ASACP remain a neutral and unbiased organization, it will be the only way to ensure fair representation for the entire industry.

                                                                                                      WELL SAID

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                                                                                                        • xclusive
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                                                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                                                          • 35218
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Asacp seems to have lost it's way it fights the right fight but maybe with the wrong tactics and I hope things get turned around over there and protecting the kids is the focus again...

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                                                                                                            • SteveLightspeed
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                              • 7940
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Aly_AVN
                                                                                                              Actually Steve... (here we go!!) ... ASACP is FAR from useless. ASACP has been directly involved in the arrest and prosecution of pedophiles. You may not LIKE that they appear to have an issue with you, and that may NOT be FAIR... But DO NOT jump to the conclusion that ASACP is useless simply because they don't kike YOU... and CERTAINLY DO NOT post that as fact in a public forum... when the biggest thing you're doing is PREVENTING the protection of children.

                                                                                                              You may have a valid fight... so fight it.. but watch how you go about doing that. ASACP DOES WORK.
                                                                                                              Aly, you've been my friend and mentor for years. I won't fight you here. ASACP is a noble idea, horribly executed. Joan was in charge, and she allowed it to be taken over by industry politics and petty bullshit. WASTED TIME, WASTED EFFORT, WASTED MONEY.

                                                                                                              TIME TO START OVER!

                                                                                                              Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                                              Abra-cadabra!

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                                                                                                                • Donny
                                                                                                                  As you wish...
                                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                                  • 13754
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Aly_AVN
                                                                                                                  Actually Steve... (here we go!!) ... ASACP is FAR from useless. ASACP has been directly involved in the arrest and prosecution of pedophiles. You may not LIKE that they appear to have an issue with you, and that may NOT be FAIR... But DO NOT jump to the conclusion that ASACP is useless simply because they don't kike YOU... and CERTAINLY DO NOT post that as fact in a public forum... when the biggest thing you're doing is PREVENTING the protection of children.

                                                                                                                  You may have a valid fight... so fight it.. but watch how you go about doing that. ASACP DOES WORK.
                                                                                                                  Wow! That was a powerful post.

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                                                                                                                    • undermyspell
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                      • 875
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      ASACP is a great organization and I personally like Joan very much.. however, it has come to the point that it appears to be a money making machine now. How many of the small sites out there would love to participate and be certified as ASACP compliant but can't because they would rather focus their earnings on putting them back into the site. It's almost become an elite club where only the biggest and highest paid can play. Those that do have the funds may shy away because most of us know that non profit organizations often mismanage money and the majority of the money doesn't go to the intended recipient but rather it lines the pockets of overpaid beauracrats (not saying this is the case).

                                                                                                                      Any time you have a "charitable" or "non profit" organization attached to a business it becomes a real nightmare trying to separate the two as individual organizations especially if parties involved are highly liked or disliked.

                                                                                                                      I support the ideals behind the ASACP but would never support the foundation itself because of the political ballgames that have to be played. I'm not a very good ass kisser.

                                                                                                                      To someone who will definitely read this.. Don't worry about telling our mutual friend to keep me on a leash like you did last year in Vegas after the awards show.. They don't control my thoughts or my posts...

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                                                                                                                        • sean416
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                          • 3633
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          wow - I remember reading that thread. I didnt think anything would come out of it.

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                                                                                                                            • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                              • 41470
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                                                                              Same bullshit, different leader

                                                                                                                              http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=6531

                                                                                                                              "ASACP is actively seeking to fill the two available spots on the council. Potential candidates must be current ASACP sponsors in order to qualify."

                                                                                                                              How convenient!

                                                                                                                              ASACP is useless, now Joan needs to go too, and take her broomstick with her.

                                                                                                                              Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                                                              i agree with much of what you've said Steve, but that statement is a little harse under the current circumstance unless you apply again to the asacp under current government and lack of certain people and get rejected again.

                                                                                                                              the good the asacp has done should outweigh some of the growing pains they have gone though and personally I'd like to look forward rather then looking back.
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                                                                                                                                • European Lee
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                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 7133
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Aly you know i respect you and Joan personally however, requiring someone who wants to be on the board at ASACP to be a sponsor of the organization is ludicrous.

                                                                                                                                  How can ASACP remain to be impartial to anything happening within the industry especially when related to topics such as CP when in effect, its board members HAVE to buy themselves in?

                                                                                                                                  Regards,

                                                                                                                                  Lee
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                                                                                                                                    • SleazyDream
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                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 41470
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                      Aly you know i respect you and Joan personally however, requiring someone who wants to be on the board at ASACP to be a sponsor of the organization is ludicrous.

                                                                                                                                      How can ASACP remain to be impartial to anything happening within the industry especially when related to topics such as CP when in effect, its board members HAVE to buy themselves in?

                                                                                                                                      Regards,

                                                                                                                                      Lee
                                                                                                                                      i disagree.

                                                                                                                                      being on the board shows that person's business operates under acceptable practices to the asacp and some sort of financial commitment to the fight against child pornography should be a part of most every responsible adult online business.
                                                                                                                                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                                                                      Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                                                        • Axeman
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                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 5201
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                          Aly you know i respect you and Joan personally however, requiring someone who wants to be on the board at ASACP to be a sponsor of the organization is ludicrous.

                                                                                                                                          How can ASACP remain to be impartial to anything happening within the industry especially when related to topics such as CP when in effect, its board members HAVE to buy themselves in?

                                                                                                                                          Regards,

                                                                                                                                          Lee
                                                                                                                                          Agreed
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                                                                                                                                            • European Lee
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                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 7133
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                              i disagree.

                                                                                                                                              being on the board shows that person's business operates under acceptable practices to the asacp and some sort of financial commitment to the fight against child pornography should be a part of most every responsible adult online business.
                                                                                                                                              No it doesnt.

                                                                                                                                              Being on the board means that you have bought your way into a perceived 'elite' organization where you get to meet a bunch of the industries big wigs.

                                                                                                                                              Plenty of us operate under the ASACP guidelines without even having to donate money to the cause, although, there are also those of us who have donated money also.

                                                                                                                                              Opening your check book in the name of ASACP in order to be on the board means just that... You paid for the position.. and the access to the industries heavy hitters.

                                                                                                                                              Regards,

                                                                                                                                              Lee
                                                                                                                                              Last edited by European Lee; 12-14-2004, 03:24 PM.
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                                                                                                                                                • NaughtyRob
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                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                  • 29602
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                  Aly you know i respect you and Joan personally however, requiring someone who wants to be on the board at ASACP to be a sponsor of the organization is ludicrous.

                                                                                                                                                  How can ASACP remain to be impartial to anything happening within the industry especially when related to topics such as CP when in effect, its board members HAVE to buy themselves in?

                                                                                                                                                  Regards,

                                                                                                                                                  Lee
                                                                                                                                                  Very well said.
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                                                                                                                                                    • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 41470
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                      No it doesnt.

                                                                                                                                                      Being on the board means that you have bought your way into a perceived 'elite' organization where you get to meet a bunch of the industries big wigs.

                                                                                                                                                      Plenty of us operate under the ASACP guidelines without even having to donate money to the cause, although, there are also those of us who have donated money also.

                                                                                                                                                      Opening your check book in the name of ASACP in order to be on the board means just that... You paid for the position.. and the access to the industries heavy hitters.

                                                                                                                                                      Regards,

                                                                                                                                                      Lee
                                                                                                                                                      i opened my checkbook and didn't ask or want to be on the board.

                                                                                                                                                      course i (and a LOT of other adult companies) put my money where my mouth is and don't find ways to weazel out and still pretend like it's ok.
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                                                                                                                                                        • psyko514
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                          Plenty of us operate under the ASACP guidelines without even having to donate money to the cause
                                                                                                                                                          Exactly. I don't need to pay into ASACP to know that there's no CP on my site. ASACP or not, my morals are the same.

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                                                                                                                                                            • European Lee
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                                                                                                                                                              • 7133
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                              i opened my checkbook and didn't ask or want to be on the board.
                                                                                                                                                              So why the fuck are you even arguing the point?

                                                                                                                                                              Regards,

                                                                                                                                                              Lee
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                                                                                                                                                                • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                  lurker
                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  if they are so great why did they push for .xxx which would stick us all in a cyber getto at $75 a domain ? The only way to truly protect kids on the net is education of parents , that the net isnt a VCR. A group who is suppose to be for our industry and doesnt fully think of the longterm effects of a choice to back .xxx. Truly isnt a group for a industry but a cash grab.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 41470
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                                      So why the fuck are you even arguing the point?

                                                                                                                                                                      Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                      Lee
                                                                                                                                                                      are you high?
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                                                                                                                                                                      Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • SleazyDream
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 41470
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                                          if they are so great why did they push for .xxx which would stick us all in a cyber getto at $75 a domain ? The only way to truly protect kids on the net is education of parents , that the net isnt a VCR. A group who is suppose to be for our industry and doesnt fully think of the longterm effects of a choice to back .xxx. Truly isnt a group for a industry but a cash grab.
                                                                                                                                                                          every single business decision you've ever made has been a winner right?
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                                                                                                                                                                          Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • jimmyf
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 12651
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by J-Reel
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Aly
                                                                                                                                                                                  President, ePufferProfits
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 1881
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                                                  Aly you know i respect you and Joan personally however, requiring someone who wants to be on the board at ASACP to be a sponsor of the organization is ludicrous.

                                                                                                                                                                                  How can ASACP remain to be impartial to anything happening within the industry especially when related to topics such as CP when in effect, its board members HAVE to buy themselves in?

                                                                                                                                                                                  Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                                  Lee
                                                                                                                                                                                  Please put aside whatever impression Gary Kremen may have given of ASACP. He's off the board now.

                                                                                                                                                                                  ASACP board seats are NOT open to the highest bidder!

                                                                                                                                                                                  I, for one, didn't pay to be a member of that board. I did however contribute in other ways. It would be a little odd to have someone on the board if they didn't contribute in some way to the organization... Most people with money would rather contribute in that way as far as I can tell.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Donny
                                                                                                                                                                                      As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 13754
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                                                                                                                                                      I think Gary made the right decision to step down. That Lightspeed fiasco certainly did not put him in a positive light.

                                                                                                                                                                                      DH
                                                                                                                                                                                      He just has strong feelings on the matter, which go way back.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't think that whole thread should have blown up as big as it did. It was fucking ridiculous.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Aly
                                                                                                                                                                                          President, ePufferProfits
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 1881
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                                                          if they are so great why did they push for .xxx which would stick us all in a cyber getto at $75 a domain ? The only way to truly protect kids on the net is education of parents , that the net isnt a VCR. A group who is suppose to be for our industry and doesnt fully think of the longterm effects of a choice to back .xxx. Truly isnt a group for a industry but a cash grab.
                                                                                                                                                                                          No, Tony... ASACP is not a 'cash grab'... if it were I may have stayed (just kidding).

                                                                                                                                                                                          The opinions on both side of the .xxx issue are strong. Agree or disagree with .xxx as you will, but your statement above is as myopic as you claim ASACP to be.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • European Lee
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 7133
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Aly_AVN
                                                                                                                                                                                              ASACP board seats are NOT open to the highest bidder!
                                                                                                                                                                                              Thats not how it reads on Helmys Xbiz..

                                                                                                                                                                                              "ASACP is actively seeking to fill the two available spots on the council. Potential candidates must be current ASACP sponsors in order to qualify."
                                                                                                                                                                                              Sounds like they actually are by the sounds of that

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • jimmyf
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 12651
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                                                                  No it doesnt.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Being on the board means that you have bought your way into a perceived 'elite' organization where you get to meet a bunch of the industries big wigs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Plenty of us operate under the ASACP guidelines without even having to donate money to the cause, although, there are also those of us who have donated money also.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Opening your check book in the name of ASACP in order to be on the board means just that... You paid for the position.. and the access to the industries heavy hitters.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Lee
                                                                                                                                                                                                  i agree with you
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • XxXotic
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 8500
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by European Lee
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thats not how it reads on Helmys Xbiz..



                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sounds like they actually are by the sounds of that

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Regards,

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lee
                                                                                                                                                                                                      sure does
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