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12-13-2004, 10:52 AM

I didnt say they anything about people speaking Portuguese in only one place. I said in the Americas, Brazil is the only Country that has it as its primary langauge. This is very true.

I never mentioned where else Portuguese is spoken. Also, it is primaryly a mix of French and Spanish.

The question was are people that live in Brazil Portuguese because they speak that langauge. The answer is NO.

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12-13-2004, 10:53 AM

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Show me where it says that any substantial amount of people speak French in Portugal on this page:

FRENCH

Funny thing is, if you check out the page on the Portuguese language, 750,000 in France speak it. So looks like your "facts" are ass backwards:

PORTUGUESE

Pretty cool site.

I didn't know we spoke around 1,000 languages here in Brazil

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12-13-2004, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Indica
I would have to say no.
I live in a town where the population is nearly 50% portuguese, and They would tell you no.

I would have to agree

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12-13-2004, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by tranza
Pretty cool site.

I didn't know we spoke around 1,000 languages here in Brazil

234 actually

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12-13-2004, 10:55 AM

OzMan:

so what's your take on the subject?

I still find it amazing that even general knowledge stuff that has not ever been in dispute ends up as a total reversal when it comes to "facts" on GFY :-)

It's clear there is a general lacking in education in some places and reminds me of being asked "London, that's in France isn't it?"

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12-13-2004, 10:56 AM

Pretty Cool Site.....I didn't know we spoke around 1,000 languages here in Brazil

Yeah, it is. Cool!

I have several friends that live there. Ever get over to Angelo Duce Street?

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12-13-2004, 11:01 AM

Thought Portugal was Spains Canada ...

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12-13-2004, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
I didnt say they anything about people speaking Portuguese in only one place. I said in the Americas, Brazil is the only Country that has it as its primary langauge. This is very true.

I never mentioned where else Portuguese is spoken. Also, it is primaryly a mix of French and Spanish.

The question was are people that live in Brazil Portuguese because they speak that langauge. The answer is NO.

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3 Make a post saying "I have been sniffing paint" and all will be good
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12-13-2004, 11:02 AM

3 Make a post saying "I have been sniffing paint" and all will be good

And your excuse is?

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12-13-2004, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
And your excuse is?

What does he need an excuse for?

Seriously though, you high?

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12-13-2004, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Nothing... my remarks are fact. What part of my post is not correct? Since you live in Portugal, please shead some light.

Portugal was born in 1143 , it was under spanish control for 60 years in 900 years, it was never under french control, we dont speak french (actually everyone speaks english as a 2ns language, and of course, portuguese) , we have no connection to the french. The world's oldest alliance is Portugal - England.
Portuguese, spanish, italian, and french, all come from the dead language latin, but we dont have common words and we dont have common names.
Brasil was colonized by portuguese and was under portuguese control a long time, like a lot of African countries, and even some asian territory. The portuguese and spanish got to a point where they split the world in two, so they wouldnt colonize the same territory, now that's superpower.
You must know Colombo.. he was portuguese, but the king wouldnt sponsor his journey so he did it anyway for the spanish, and he got lucky
Our rivalry with the spanish is so old you cant even start to understand, but we get along now, and I love Barcelona (of course Madrid is the source of all evil, so Barça is cool).

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12-13-2004, 11:16 AM

Battle of Aljubarrota

The Castilian vanguard arrived at lunch time from the North. Seeing the strongly defensive position occupied by the Portuguese, Juan I took the wise decision of avoiding combat on João I terms. Slowly, due to the numbers of his army (ca. 30,000 men), the Castilian army started to contour the hill where the Portuguese were located. Juan I scouts had noticed that the South side of the hill had a gentler slope and it was through here that the Castilian king wanted to attack.

In response of this movement, the Portuguese army inverts its dispositions and heads to the South slope of the hill. Since they were fewer than the enemy and had less ground to cover, they attained their final position very early in the afternoon. To avoid nervousness of the soldiers and to improve its defensive position, general Nuno Alvares Pereira ordered the construction of a system of ditches, pitches and caltrops. This tactical procedure, very typical of the English, was perhaps a suggestion of the British allied troops, also present in the field.

Around six o'clock in the afternoon the Castilian army is ready to battle. According to Juan I own words, in his report of the battle, his soldiers were by then very tired of the march that started early in the morning under a blazing August sun. There was no time to halt now, the battle would start.

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12-13-2004, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
And your excuse is?

I don't need any excuse to be an expert on all subjects on GFY.
It comes with the territory.
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12-13-2004, 11:17 AM

The initiative of starting the battle was in the Castilian side. The French allied cavalry charged, as they were accustomed to do: in full strength, in order to disrupt order in enemy lines. Even before they could get in contact with the Portuguese infantry, they were already disorganized. Just like in Crecy, the defending archers along with the ditches and pits did most of the work. The losses on the cavalry were heavy and the effect of its attack completely null. Support from the Castilian rear was late to come and the knights that did not perish in the combat were made prisoners and sent to the Portuguese rear.

- I guess the french will always be the french -

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12-13-2004, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Yeah, it is. Cool!

I have several friends that live there. Ever get over to Angelo Duce Street?

Never heard of that street before... Is that here in Sao Paulo?

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12-13-2004, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by Tuga
Portugal was born in 1143 , it was under spanish control for 60 years in 900 years, it was never under french control, we dont speak french (actually everyone speaks english as a 2ns language, and of course, portuguese) , we have no connection to the french. The world's oldest alliance is Portugal - England.
Portuguese, spanish, italian, and french, all come from the dead language latin, but we dont have common words and we dont have common names.
Brasil was colonized by portuguese and was under portuguese control a long time, like a lot of African countries, and even some asian territory. The portuguese and spanish got to a point where they split the world in two, so they wouldnt colonize the same territory, now that's superpower.
You must know Colombo.. he was portuguese, but the king wouldnt sponsor his journey so he did it anyway for the spanish, and he got lucky
Our rivalry with the spanish is so old you cant even start to understand, but we get along now, and I love Barcelona (of course Madrid is the source of all evil, so Barça is cool).

Wasn't Columbus Italian by birth? I think I remember seeing his birthplace in Genoa?

So Columbus was the first Latino?
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12-13-2004, 11:18 AM

It was time now for the main Castilian force to enter the battle. Their line was enormous, due to the great number of soldiers. In order to get to the Portuguese line, the Castilians had to disorganize themselves, to squeeze in the space between the two creeks that protected the flanks. It was not an auspicious start. At this time, the Portuguese reorganized. The vanguard of Nuno Alvares Pereira divided into two sectors. Seeing that the worst was still to come, João I ordered the retreat of the archers and the advance of his rear troops, through the space opened between the vanguards. Here a very uncivil event takes place. With all troops needed at the front, there were no men available to guard the knight prisoners. João I ordered them to be killed on the spot and proceed to deal with the approaching Castilians.

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12-13-2004, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by OzMan
No and a Brazilian will kill you for calling him Hispanic.

Hispanic = Spanish origin , although you never hear Filipino's referred to as Hispanic, cause they are mixed I guess.

PC Term Latino/a = Mexico and south

I have heard fellow filipino's refer to us having Latin heritage.

I have spanish and portugese blood. We are pure mutt.
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12-13-2004, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by OzMan
Wasn't Columbus Italian by birth? I think I remember seeing his birthplace in Genoa?

So Columbus was the first Latino?

I believe there's a few different theories about him, I'll try to find more info, but in Portugal we learn the story I told you.

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12-13-2004, 11:23 AM

nope we're considered portuguese

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12-13-2004, 11:23 AM

Squashed between the Portuguese flanks and advanced rear, the Castilians did their best to win the day. At this stage of the battle, heavy losses were on both sides, especially on the Castilians and Portuguese left wing (known in Portuguese tradition as the Ala dos Namorados, meaning, not literally, flank of the young ones). By sunset the Castilian position was indefensible and the situation quite desperate. Juan I ordered retreat and the remaining Castilian soldiers started to flee. Portuguese set on they pursuit and, with the battle won, killed many more.

According to Portuguese tradition surrounding the battle, there was a woman called Brites de Almeida, the Padeira of Aljubarrota (the baker-woman of Aljubarrota), said to be very tall, strong and ugly and to possess six fingers on each hand, who ambushed and killed by herself many Castilian soldiers. This story in particular is clouded in legend and hear-say. But the popular intervention in the massacre of Castilian troops after the battle is, nevertheless, historical.

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12-13-2004, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Anthony
I have heard fellow filipino's refer to us having Latin heritage.

I have spanish and portugese blood. We are pure mutt.

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