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  • Chuck Taylor
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    • Sep 2004
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    #1

    are portuguese people considered hispanic?

    are they?

    they have spanish names
  • paxton
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    #2
    Originally posted by Chuck Taylor
    are they?

    they have spanish names
    Seems to be some debate about this. Check out:

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    • Indica
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      #3
      I would have to say no.
      I live in a town where the population is nearly 50% portuguese, and They would tell you no.

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      • jukeboxfrank
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        #4
        Originally posted by Indica
        I would have to say no.
        I live in a town where the population is nearly 50% portuguese, and They would tell you no.
        I would agree


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        • OzMan
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          #5
          No and a Brazilian will kill you for calling him Hispanic.

          Hispanic = Spanish origin , although you never hear Filipino's referred to as Hispanic, cause they are mixed I guess.

          PC Term Latino/a = Mexico and south

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          • slavdogg
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            #6
            Originally posted by Indica
            I would have to say no.
            I live in a town where the population is nearly 50% portuguese, and They would tell you no.
            where do u live ?
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            • pornpf69
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              #7
              Originally posted by OzMan
              No and a Brazilian will kill you for calling him Hispanic.

              Hispanic = Spanish origin , although you never hear Filipino's referred to as Hispanic, cause they are mixed I guess.

              PC Term Latino/a = Mexico and south
              you are absolutely right

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              • Damian_Maxcash
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                #8
                Or are they Asian??

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                • Jer
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                  #9
                  People who are born in Brazil or Portugal aren't hispanics.

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                  • Jer
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                    #10
                    And we don't have "spanish names", but portuguese speaking people have some names in common with spanish speaking people.

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                    • javok
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jer
                      And we don't have "spanish names", but portuguese speaking people have some names in common with spanish speaking people.
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                      • Tuga
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                        #12
                        We have nothing in common with spanish people!

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                        • wiggitywack
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                          #13
                          This questions been an on going debate for many years between my Brazilian wife and myself.

                          Brazilians are not Hispanic, b/c their culture/language/historical heritage is derived from Portugal/Portuguese, not Spain/Spanish.

                          There is even some reluctance on her part Brazilians to allow themselves to be categorized as "Latino". However, the term "Latino" means someone with a cultural / linguistic tie to the Iberian Peninsula, which includes Spain and Portugal. Therefore Brazilians are Latino but no Hispanic, and just because you are Latino doesn't mean your mother tongue is Spanish - it could also be Portuguese.

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                          • reynold
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                            #14
                            i'm also confused about which category they belong.

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                            • Jer
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tuga
                              De Espanha, nem bom vento nem bom casamento!


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                              • NelsonN
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Tuga
                                We have nothing in common with spanish people!
                                And your shooting at Hispanic people because Portuguese is the most widely spoken language, right?

                                Why bash any nationality?

                                Portuguese, like Spanish, is derived from Latin.

                                Purtuguese and Spanish nations have more in common than any other nationality.
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                                • coolfuck
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                                  #17
                                  yeah i think so
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                                  • tranza
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Tuga
                                    We have nothing in common with spanish people!

                                    De Espanha, nem bom vento nem bom casamento!
                                    What he said.

                                    BTW that saying "De Espanha, nem bom vento nem bom casamento!" comes from the ages of the realms, right?
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                                    • Porko
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by OzMan
                                      No and a Brazilian will kill you for calling him Hispanic.

                                      Hispanic = Spanish origin , although you never hear Filipino's referred to as Hispanic, cause they are mixed I guess.

                                      PC Term Latino/a = Mexico and south
                                      in fact, they and spanish have the same origin: latin ,
                                      so they are not spanish but they come from the same latin source..

                                      his names, words and another things are VERY similars..

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                                      • Lonny
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                                        #20
                                        portuguese people are not are not hispanic. Just like a El Salvadorians is not a mexican.

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                                        • Tuga
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                                          #21
                                          We were actually spanish for 60 years on the 17th century, but we kicked them out of the country and we would do it again.

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                                          • NelsonN
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ikonworx
                                            portuguese people are not are not hispanic. Just like a El Salvadorians is not a mexican.
                                            Wrong analogy. Mexicans and Salvadorians speak one language: Spanish. They are considered Hispanic in the US.

                                            Portuguese are not considered Hispanic because they don't speak Spanish.

                                            As I stated previously, Portuguese people should not be appalled at the Spanish people because they are technically the same people. Just like Caucasian Canadians and US citizens are derived from England, the area they live in is called North America, but they are different nationality.

                                            The Spanish nation as we know it today is actually several different (united) states with their local languages and one unifying language: Spanish. The only two states to escape unification in the Spanish peninsula were Portugal and Andorra.

                                            Many have no clue of the existence of Andorra, it is located between the borders of Spain and France.
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                                            • C-Bass
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                                              #23
                                              Hyspanic means that they derive from a Spanish speaking country. Since they dont, then NO.


                                              They are Portuguese. End of story
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                                              • OzMan
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bimbo
                                                in fact, they and spanish have the same origin: latin ,
                                                so they are not spanish but they come from the same latin source..

                                                his names, words and another things are VERY similars..
                                                Well... Latin when used in the context of Latino/a usually means to me.. from Latin America rather than referring to the Latin roots of the language. Romanian I believe is a Latin language but a Romanian is not a Latino...

                                                The point is how not to get killed when in Brazil or with Brazillian friends. Just don't call them Hispanic and you will never find a better friend. End of story.

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                                                • kmanrox
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                                                  #25
                                                  i love my brazilian-portuguese teacher... thanks to him, i actually understood most of the portuguese you guys posted her!
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                                                  • SKULL
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                                                    #26
                                                    No..
                                                    Portuguese = Europeans
                                                    Spaniard (Spanish) = European
                                                    Brazilian = Latin Ameirican just like the rest of latinos/as but they are not consider hispanic(which I believe is the wrong term for spanish speaking people)

                                                    from Mexico (and a lot in the US) and down we are all latin latinos / as including some islands in the caribbean...
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                                                    • SKULL
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Spotter_03
                                                      Hyspanic means that they derive from a Spanish speaking country. Since they dont, then NO.


                                                      They are Portuguese. End of story
                                                      Wrong... they are not Portuguese, they are Brazilian or latin ... I'm from South America with Spanish influence but that deosn't make me Spanish... I'm latin just like Brazilians...
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                                                      • Hentaikid
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                                                        #28
                                                        Portugal is Spain's Canada

                                                        "latino" would include italians, AFAIK...

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                                                        • OzMan
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Hentaikid
                                                          Portugal is Spain's Canada

                                                          "latino" would include italians, AFAIK...

                                                          errrrr

                                                          no and no

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                                                          • milambur
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                                                            #30
                                                            Just a little note, hispanic does not derive from Spanish, but from the Roman name of the Iberian Pennisula which was Hispania.....
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                                                            • OzMan
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by milambur
                                                              Just a little note, hispanic does not derive from Spanish, but from the Roman name of the Iberian Pennisula which was Hispania.....
                                                              Yes the actual origin of the word stresses the common roots in the Iberian Peninsula but the modern usage as a mostly racist term almost equated with "all those damn illegal Mexicans" to refer to anyone who looks even remotely Latino makes Brazillians especially those living in the US want to distance themselves from it.

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                                                              • PerfectionGirls
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                                                                #32
                                                                As I stated previously, Portuguese people should not be appalled at the Spanish people because they are technically the same people.
                                                                You are wrong.

                                                                Portuguese is a language... a mix of two language, not a heritage.

                                                                Portugal is a place and they speak french for the most part.

                                                                Portuguese, the language is a mix between Spanish and French, spoken primarly by the Brazilian people.

                                                                Brazil was claimed for Portugal in 1500 by Pedro Alvares Cabral so the mix of the languages began.

                                                                Brazil is the only Portuguese-speaking nation in the Americas.
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                                                                • OzMan
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                                                  You are wrong.

                                                                  ...Portugal is a place and they speak french for the most part.


                                                                  That's news to me. I spent a few days there and I never heard a word of French.

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                                                                  • magicmike
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by PerfectionGirls

                                                                    Portugal is a place and they speak french for the most part.



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                                                                    • Tuga
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                                                      You are wrong.

                                                                      Portuguese is a language... a mix of two language, not a heritage.

                                                                      Portugal is a place and they speak french for the most part.

                                                                      Portuguese, the language is a mix between Spanish and French, spoken primarly by the Brazilian people.

                                                                      Brazil was claimed for Portugal in 1500 by Pedro Alvares Cabral so the mix of the languages began.

                                                                      Brazil is the only Portuguese-speaking nation in the Americas.

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Tuga
                                                                        WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING?!!!??!?!
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                                                                        • OzMan
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                                                          ....Brazil is the only Portuguese-speaking nation in the Americas.
                                                                          You also forgot about New Jersey

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                                                                          • tranza
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            This whole thread is just TOO FUNNY!!!

                                                                            Lol....

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING?!!!??!?!
                                                                              Nothing... my remarks are fact. What part of my post is not correct? Since you live in Portugal, please shead some light.
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                                                                              • OzMan
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                                                                                #40
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                                                                                • OzMan
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                                                                  Nothing... my remarks are fact.
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                                                                                    No they are not as far as I can tell...

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by OzMan
                                                                                      You also forgot about New Jersey
                                                                                      lol my whole family is of Portuguese descent and all either live or have lived in and around Newark (I grew up in Elizabeth). I miss those goddamed Portuguese restaurants on Ferry St. like you wouldn't believe.
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                                                                                        http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Por...l_History.html

                                                                                        During the 18th century, other differences between the American and European Portuguese developed. At that time Brazilian Portuguese failed to adopt linguistic changes taking place in Portugal produced by French influence. The Brazilian Portuguese remained loyal to the pronunciation used at the time of its discovery. However, when Don João, the Portuguese king, and the royal entourage took refuge in Brazil in 1808 (when Napoleon Bonaparte invaded Portugal), his presence helped to reapproximate the Portuguese spoken in the cities to the Portuguese of Portugal.

                                                                                        After Brazilian independence in 1822, Brazilian Portuguese became influenced by Europeans who had migrated to the central and southern parts of the country. This is the reason one finds in those areas variations in pronunciation and a few superficial lexical changes. These changes reflect the nationalities settling in each area.
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                                                                                        • OzMan
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by JerseyPuma
                                                                                          lol my whole family is of Portuguese descent and all either live or have lived in and around Newark (I grew up in Elizabeth). I miss those goddamed Portuguese restaurants on Ferry St. like you wouldn't believe.

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                                                                                          • JerseyPuma
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                                                                            Nothing... my remarks are fact. What part of my post is not correct? Since you live in Portugal, please shead some light.
                                                                                            Show me where it says that any substantial amount of people speak French in Portugal on this page:

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                                                                                            Funny thing is, if you check out the page on the Portuguese language, 750,000 in France speak it. So looks like your "facts" are ass backwards:

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                                                                                            • Webby
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Portugal is a place and they speak french for the most part.
                                                                                              Where does all this ignorance come from?? DUH?

                                                                                              This ain't the only example.. this thread is full of utter bullshit from people who have nada clue.
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                                                                                              • OzMan
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                                                                                http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Por...l_History.html

                                                                                                During the 18th century, other differences between the American and European Portuguese developed. At that time Brazilian Portuguese failed to adopt linguistic changes taking place in Portugal produced by French influence. The Brazilian Portuguese remained loyal to the pronunciation used at the time of its discovery. However, when Don João, the Portuguese king, and the royal entourage took refuge in Brazil in 1808 (when Napoleon Bonaparte invaded Portugal), his presence helped to reapproximate the Portuguese spoken in the cities to the Portuguese of Portugal.

                                                                                                After Brazilian independence in 1822, Brazilian Portuguese became influenced by Europeans who had migrated to the central and southern parts of the country. This is the reason one finds in those areas variations in pronunciation and a few superficial lexical changes. These changes reflect the nationalities settling in each area.
                                                                                                Show me the facts about French being the dominant language in Portugal.

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                                                                                                • OzMan
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                  Where does all this ignorance come from?? DUH?

                                                                                                  This ain't the only example.. this thread is full of utter bullshit from people who have nada clue.
                                                                                                  so what's your take on the subject?

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                                                                                                  • Gunni
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                                                                                    http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Por...l_History.html

                                                                                                    During the 18th century, other differences between the American and European Portuguese developed. At that time Brazilian Portuguese failed to adopt linguistic changes taking place in Portugal produced by French influence. The Brazilian Portuguese remained loyal to the pronunciation used at the time of its discovery. However, when Don João, the Portuguese king, and the royal entourage took refuge in Brazil in 1808 (when Napoleon Bonaparte invaded Portugal), his presence helped to reapproximate the Portuguese spoken in the cities to the Portuguese of Portugal.

                                                                                                    After Brazilian independence in 1822, Brazilian Portuguese became influenced by Europeans who had migrated to the central and southern parts of the country. This is the reason one finds in those areas variations in pronunciation and a few superficial lexical changes. These changes reflect the nationalities settling in each area.
                                                                                                    That is like saying Argentinians speak italian and not spanish,
                                                                                                    just because they speak it with an italian accent

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