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  • xxweekxx
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    • Oct 2002
    • 6780

    #1

    starting an airline??

    What are the costs associated with starting a small Domestic airline?? International airline???

    Im just trying to find out more info on the aviation business..

    Is it very profitable?
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  • Spunky
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    • Jun 2002
    • 133978

    #2
    Millions

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    • VanessaG
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      • Jun 2004
      • 1884

      #3
      http://www.airpolonia.com.pl/

      This is an Airline in Poland which is seeking an investor with 800,000$. They just went bankrupt.



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      • xxweekxx
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        • Oct 2002
        • 6780

        #4
        Originally posted by spunky
        Millions
        ya i was thinking like $100mil in acct or something

        im sure there are business loans and shit for buying airplanes..
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        • evanmorgan
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          • Aug 2004
          • 2490

          #5
          Originally posted by xxweekxx
          ya i was thinking like $100mil in acct or something

          im sure there are business loans and shit for buying airplanes..
          everyone knows that most airplanes are rented not bought........
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          • Young
            Bland for life
            • Nov 2004
            • 10468

            #6
            tons of money. most of the smaller airlines own very few of their planes, or they buy used ones. I'd imagine the costs would be well over $200million for US Domestic. I don't know about overseas.
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            • azguy
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              • Nov 2004
              • 5167

              #7
              Originally posted by xxweekxx
              ya i was thinking like $100mil in acct or something

              im sure there are business loans and shit for buying airplanes..
              You obviously don't pay the full price. There are ways to pay the manufacturers in installments after establishing some good credit line with them.

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              • azguy
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                • Nov 2004
                • 5167

                #8
                Originally posted by azguy
                You obviously don't pay the full price. There are ways to pay the manufacturers in installments after establishing some good credit line with them.
                And a small airline will most likely want to lease the airplanes anyway.

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                • Sosa
                  In Tushy Land
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 40149

                  #9
                  a shitload

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                  • enter »
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                    • Jul 2004
                    • 2362

                    #10
                    Richard branson, the BILLIONaire that owns virgin Airlines said on Howard Stern that there's a joke in the airline biz. It was something like airlines turn billionaires into millionaires. If you were serious about it I would say the only profitable approach is a small fleet of corporate jets.
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                    • fl_prn_str
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                      • Aug 2004
                      • 5736

                      #11
                      Talk with Richard Branson!!! maybe he can fork over a few mil for sum competition.

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                      • detoxed
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 17798

                        #12
                        LOL I would guess its too much for you. Each plane is several million, then you gotta contract for the space at the airports, then you gotta hire a bunch of people, and pilots make pretty good money. Good luck with your venture, please tell us the name of your airline, so we know to be careful.

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                        • detoxed
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 17798

                          #13
                          Shit most of these airlines today arent even profitable!

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                          • Sly
                            Let's do some business!
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 31379

                            #14
                            I would venture to say that a good chunk of the smaller airports/airlines are subsidized by the adjacent city/county. I know that the one in my hometown is. They have 4 outgoing flights a day, probably 30 passengers per flight at $100. That comes out to about $12,000 a day, figure in land, employees, security, upkeep, maintenance, fuel, insurance, etc. Probably not much profit, if any.
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                            • BRISK
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 12240

                              #15
                              Originally posted by xxweekxx
                              What are the costs associated with starting a small Domestic airline?? International airline???

                              Im just trying to find out more info on the aviation business..

                              Is it very profitable?
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                              • Young
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                                • Nov 2004
                                • 10468

                                #16
                                howstuffworks.com

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                                • BlueDesignStudios
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                                  • Feb 2003
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                                  #17
                                  richard branson started up Virgin australia for only $10M

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