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  • wouncie
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2002
    • 1005

    #1

    Ibill CONTINUES to fuck up!

    What the fuck am I supposed to do with THIS BULLSHIT!



    Ibill has been fucking up, and fucking up, and fucking up! With totally no regard for the webmaster at all!

    Its like dammit man, I know better but still havent switched companies because of the "hassle" involved.

    ..... plus I think having quiets last monthly statement as my motivational screen saver has something to do with the reluctancy to switch to.

    Fuckin Ibill
  • boldy
    Macdaddy coder
    • Feb 2002
    • 2806

    #2
    Too many buttons and options again ... i'm stoopid too
    MacDaddy Coder.

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    • TDF
      Triple OG nigga on GFY
      • Mar 2002
      • 27296

      #3
      yeah I say fuck ibill too.They owe me several hundred dollars and they sent me the same email reply to me that they sent to someone else with their name on it with my original email in it..dipshits
      Sig heil

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      • Rochard
        Jägermeister Test Pilot
        • Dec 2001
        • 75733

        #4
        I think IBill should change it's name to "IFuck".
        Herschel Savage
        Brooklyn, NY

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        • SR
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 2239

          #5
          I had one week without problems
          and now the blow it again.
          processing behind plus rebills behind.
          Plus they have the worst support.
          E-mail them and be sure your e-mail will get lost in cyberspace.

          I give them 1 or 2 more years
          They'll get trouble with processing "illegal" sites plus nobody will let them get away with not paying for the web900

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          • PhilipX
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2002
            • 200

            #6
            I think IBill should change it's name to "IFuck".
            Or should it be FuckBill. It's time for them to change now.

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            • iBill-Cathy
              Registered User
              • Feb 2002
              • 61

              #7
              All-The legacy detail revenue report was removed to improve the performance of CMI. We are in the process of creating an automated report that will support this data. If you are having problems using this new report, please contact me at [email protected] or our client service team.

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              • Jizar II
                Confirmed User
                • May 2001
                • 1425

                #8
                Trouble with IBILL ? hmm never heard anything like it before

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                • wonton
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 802

                  #9
                  Originally posted by iBill-Cathy
                  All-The legacy detail revenue report was removed to improve the performance of CMI. We are in the process of creating an automated report that will support this data. If you are having problems using this new report, please contact me at [email protected] or our client service team.
                  lol

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                  • Snazzy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 480

                    #10
                    Aren't they the same guys who run Napster? Look where they are now!
                    Snazzy
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                    • vegasdude
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 3649

                      #11
                      Cathy give this one http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...0&pagenumber=1 a look instead....

                      I would find a new job if I was you.... working for a broke ass no good no future company is not a perfect job...
                      Did you fucking talk to me??!
                      Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

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                      • wouncie
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 1005

                        #12
                        Originally posted by vegasdude
                        Cathy give this one http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...0&pagenumber=1 a look instead....

                        I would find a new job if I was you.... working for a broke ass no good no future company is not a perfect job...
                        That's the last we'll here from her.

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                        • iBill John
                          Registered User
                          • May 2002
                          • 46

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wouncie


                          That's the last we'll here from her.
                          I don't think so wouncie...
                          ibill_john

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                          • AcidMax
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2002
                            • 1827

                            #14
                            I switched from I-Bill last week after dealing with their incompetent support and lack of follow-up. I am even removing the I-Bill module from my billing / member management software. I wrote a new CC Bill module for it in less than an hour and was up and live and working processing with CC Bill which so far has not only made me more money, but they actually process credit cards for me and support is at least competent.

                            AJ
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                            • wouncie
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 1005

                              #15
                              Originally posted by iBill John


                              I don't think so wouncie...
                              John, how bout fixing the detailed revenue FIRST, why do we have to suffer as customers. Ya'll extorting 25% from us OFF TOP and don't give a damn about us. Instead of sarcastic replies on the message board why don't you put some of that energy and address the web900 money ya'll stole from us. I don't recall seeing you reply to that thread Slugger

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                              • Shoplifter
                                Richest man in Babylon
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 5848

                                #16
                                Originally posted by AcidMax
                                but they actually process credit cards for me....

                                AJ
                                This is by far the biggest problem with Ibill...Far more so than any other issue.

                                There are too many declines and arbitrary membership cancellations. I am beginning to think they cancel accounts after a few months just because their algorithm says the probability of a chargeback increases if a member stays on for more than 3 months.

                                It is a daily occurance that we get an email from a client saying they never cancelled, but they no longer have access.

                                Moving to another processor is easy if you have a small site, it is impossible if you have more than 1k members. Sigh.
                                I Like Blondes

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                                • iBill John
                                  Registered User
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 46

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by wouncie


                                  John, how bout fixing the detailed revenue FIRST, why do we have to suffer as customers. Ya'll extorting 25% from us OFF TOP and don't give a damn about us. Instead of sarcastic replies on the message board why don't you put some of that energy and address the web900 money ya'll stole from us. I don't recall seeing you reply to that thread Slugger
                                  First of all, I am in sales.
                                  You pay 25%, I wish I was your rep.
                                  I do give a dam about you, that's why I reply.
                                  The web900 money, I leave that to our legal dept.
                                  Hey, I will give the folks at the Florida office a
                                  heads up on the detailed revenue issues.
                                  ibill_john

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                                  • wouncie
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2002
                                    • 1005

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by iBill John


                                    First of all, I am in sales.
                                    You pay 25%, I wish I was your rep.
                                    I do give a dam about you, that's why I reply.
                                    The web900 money, I leave that to our legal dept.
                                    Hey, I will give the folks at the Florida office a
                                    heads up on the detailed revenue issues.
                                    10% -- 6 month reserve
                                    15% -- Ibills greedy ass cut

                                    Basically 25% of every dollar I earn.

                                    While you're at it telll the folks at the Florida office to KISS MY ASS to!

                                    *shaking head* fuckin rookies

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                                    • Kimmykim
                                      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 16015

                                      #19
                                      damn you a sassy one wouncie ;)

                                      now did you get that affiliate program open yet?

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                                      • pentae
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 899

                                        #20
                                        I think its very cool that a very large company like iBill have the balls and the commitment to reply to a hostile and immature thread like this one, in an attempt to make it clearer for those of us who clearly have no fucking clue.

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                                        • BVF
                                          Black Vagina Finder
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 13975

                                          #21
                                          a 10% holdback every week? with a 15% fee? That's craziness

                                          The only reason that I didn't go with Ibill when I first started was because it was easier to setup with CCbill. I'm glad that shit happened.

                                          14.5% fee and 5% holdback = 19.5% which is a BIG difference from 25%. And that isn't even including the money that goes to the affiliates every week.

                                          Even though you're getting your holdback refunded, that extra 0.5% every week extra that Ibill is charging has to add up like a muthafucka.

                                          thank God I never got mixed up with Ibill

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                                          • quiet
                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                            • Sep 2001
                                            • 25115

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by iBill John


                                            First of all, I am in sales.
                                            You pay 25%, I wish I was your rep.
                                            I do give a dam about you, that's why I reply.
                                            The web900 money, I leave that to our legal dept.
                                            Hey, I will give the folks at the Florida office a
                                            heads up on the detailed revenue issues.
                                            and the frankie's angels incident? saving that for the legal department too?
                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                            • wouncie
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 1005

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BVF
                                              a 10% holdback every week? with a 15% fee? That's craziness

                                              The only reason that I didn't go with Ibill when I first started was because it was easier to setup with CCbill. I'm glad that shit happened.

                                              14.5% fee and 5% holdback = 19.5% which is a BIG difference from 25%. And that isn't even including the money that goes to the affiliates every week.

                                              Even though you're getting your holdback refunded, that extra 0.5% every week extra that Ibill is charging has to add up like a muthafucka.

                                              thank God I never got mixed up with Ibill
                                              You're right BVF and on top of that they dont pay every week, they pay every 15 days.

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                                              • ronin
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 1300

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by wouncie


                                                10% -- 6 month reserve
                                                15% -- Ibills greedy ass cut

                                                Basically 25% of every dollar I earn.

                                                While you're at it telll the folks at the Florida office to KISS MY ASS to!

                                                *shaking head* fuckin rookies
                                                wait till they look into wouncie, guy probley sent two joins in his hole life. he is a newbie, i suspect.

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                                                • pentae
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 899

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ronin


                                                  wait till they look into wouncie, guy probley sent two joins in his hole life. he is a newbie, i suspect.
                                                  Wouldnt suprise me. People often forget that iBill where around first. They are much bigger and have a lot more history and experience than all the new blood.

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                                                  • drops
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                    • 1116

                                                    #26
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                                                    • ronin
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 1300

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by drops
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                                                      • Socks
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2002
                                                        • 8475

                                                        #28
                                                        Why doesn't iBill realize that all they need is a BETTER SYSTEM. You guys have like how many customers? How many offices? Yet your website is in pieces. That's your fucking MONEY MACHINE!!!Lose that and you lose profits. Profits are supposed to go UP. By GAINING customers. You are LOSING customers. You are poisoning your own drinking water.

                                                        I honestly think our website is more functional than yours, and we're a couple kids with highschool educations. Shame on you. People in here rely on you, you are like their bank. If you went to your bank looking for YOUR money and they said "Talk to our legal team" how the fuck would you feel? Hire a leader with some passion and customer service ideas I say, someone needs to lay the fat fist down.

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                                                        • rdunn404
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 999

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ronin


                                                          wait till they look into wouncie, guy probley sent two joins in his hole life. he is a newbie, i suspect.
                                                          LOL. If only you knew how far off base that comment was. And it ain't about sending 1 join or 1,000 joins. It's about respect and them providing a service to clients - period! There's principalities involved here Smokey!

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                                                          • ronin
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 1300

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by rdunn404


                                                            LOL. If only you knew how far off base that comment was. And it ain't about sending 1 join or 1,000 joins. It's about respect and them providing a service to clients - period! There's principalities involved here Smokey!
                                                            well cowboy, i get respect from all the billing co. i use.
                                                            i guess it's the old, you get what you pay for.
                                                            i see other playa's get service.
                                                            at 1 or 2 joins a day, i would not piss on you, if you were on fire.

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                                                            • Bobo
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                              • 2253

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by iBill John


                                                              First of all, I am in sales.
                                                              You pay 25%, I wish I was your rep.
                                                              I do give a dam about you, that's why I reply.
                                                              The web900 money, I leave that to our legal dept.
                                                              Hey, I will give the folks at the Florida office a
                                                              heads up on the detailed revenue issues.
                                                              Fuck you and the company that you represent. When I find you Ibill John, I'm going to ejaculate in your ass.

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                                                              • The Dawg
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                • 2438

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Bobo
                                                                When I find you Ibill John, I'm going to ejaculate in your ass.

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                                                                • Socks
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 8475

                                                                  #33
                                                                  What about the horse he rode in on?! Don't leave out the horse..

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                                                                  • iBill John
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                    • 46

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Bobo


                                                                    Fuck you and the company that you represent. When I find you Ibill John, I'm going to ejaculate in your ass.
                                                                    3202 Compton Blvd.
                                                                    Compton, CA. 90220
                                                                    ibill_john

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                                                                    • quiet
                                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                      • 25115

                                                                      #35
                                                                      "hey ren - tell 'em where you're from"
                                                                      Last edited by quiet; 09-05-2002, 09:11 PM.
                                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                      • pentae
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                        • 899

                                                                        #36
                                                                        hahahaha

                                                                        RESPECT-o-METER
                                                                        -----------------------
                                                                        Ibill John: 31
                                                                        Bobo: 3
                                                                        -----------------------

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                                                                        • Bobo
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                          • 2253

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by iBill John


                                                                          3202 Compton Blvd.
                                                                          Compton, CA. 90220
                                                                          So you've come out of the closet. I would have guessed Ibill hires flamers. Maybe that's why you and your company sucks.

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                                                                          • Bobo
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                            • 2253

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by pentae
                                                                            hahahaha

                                                                            RESPECT-o-METER
                                                                            -----------------------
                                                                            Ibill John: 31
                                                                            Bobo: 3
                                                                            -----------------------
                                                                            Did you pull those numbers out of your ass? If you knew anything about Ibill you would know that they and anybody who represents them gets NO respect.

                                                                            My advice to you is to choose CCBILL. I'm being nice to you even though you've made it clear that you're little more than a choda licker.

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                                                                            • ronin
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 1300

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Bobo


                                                                              So you've come out of the closet. I would have guessed Ibill hires flamers. Maybe that's why you and your company sucks.
                                                                              whatever, stud. lol

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                                                                              • pentae
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                • 899

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Bobo


                                                                                Did you pull those numbers out of your ass? If you knew anything about Ibill you would know that they and anybody who represents them gets NO respect.

                                                                                My advice to you is to choose CCBILL. I'm being nice to you even though you've made it clear that you're little more than a choda licker.
                                                                                "Even if I knew anything about ibill" .. lol, this is the company that made guys like me very very wealthy. You don't even know who your talking to, so sit the fuck down!

                                                                                iBill have ALWAYS been the biggest merchant on the entire internet, and while we're making personal assumptions, they have been billing before you where even in this industry.

                                                                                Any two-bit kid with a scrap of HTML he found in his ass can hook up a CCBill page, which is why their scrub list is enormous. I have used BOTH of these companies for extensive periods of time. And all I learnt was CCBill was a lot more unreliable, and got me 35% less signups.

                                                                                Why should I respect you? You don't send me 6 figure wires every 2 weeks that you could set your watch by! Credit given where credits due, they've had their share of screwups.

                                                                                We're looking at websitebilling.com as an alternative to ibill, but at this point my techs are still testing the variance in sales figures for each merchant.

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                                                                                • Bobo
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                  • 2253

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by pentae


                                                                                  "Even if I knew anything about ibill" .. lol, this is the company that made guys like me very very wealthy. You don't even know who your talking to, so sit the fuck down!

                                                                                  iBill have ALWAYS been the biggest merchant on the entire internet, and while we're making personal assumptions, they have been billing before you where even in this industry.

                                                                                  Any two-bit kid with a scrap of HTML he found in his ass can hook up a CCBill page, which is why their scrub list is enormous. I have used BOTH of these companies for extensive periods of time. And all I learnt was CCBill was a lot more unreliable, and got me 35% less signups.

                                                                                  Why should I respect you? You don't send me 6 figure wires every 2 weeks that you could set your watch by! Credit given where credits due, they've had their share of screwups.

                                                                                  We're looking at websitebilling.com as an alternative to ibill, but at this point my techs are still testing the variance in sales figures for each merchant.
                                                                                  Hey, whatever you say Bub. Even if you make the 6 figure income you claim to (and I doubt that you do, what a fuckin' joke), you'd have to realize that they would treat you differently than clients that make a fraction of what you make. The problem with this is that the small webmasters are what make a company, not the one of two big guys. Ibill more reliable than CCBILL??? LOL Look around you, pose the question to anybody on this board and we'll compare answers. CCBILL has IBILL beat....it's only a matter of time before IBILL sinks. They have to cut off a lot of useless fat and start providing service.

                                                                                  Ibill is the biggest because they were one of the first...but it's something that you have to maintain or you don't stay the biggest for long. Ibill will learn this the hard way.

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                                                                                  • Bobo
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                    • 2253

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by ronin


                                                                                    whatever, stud. lol
                                                                                    Don't come onto me. Ibill John is the homo, not me.

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                                                                                    • iBill John
                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                      • 46

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Bobo


                                                                                      So you've come out of the closet. I would have guessed Ibill hires flamers. Maybe that's why you and your company sucks.
                                                                                      Never came out of a closet, just lying in the weeds.
                                                                                      Always up for answering posts like your's.
                                                                                      ibill_john

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                                                                                      • wouncie
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                                                        • 1005

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by iBill John


                                                                                        3202 Compton Blvd.
                                                                                        Compton, CA. 90220

                                                                                        This beef is not with you John, dont you have better things to be doing than being an asshole on this message board. I bet you have a customer on hold right now!

                                                                                        Im just a webmaster venting to other webmasters in a place that I call home. There was no need for you to take try to come to Ibill_Cathys rescue and jump off in this fire with those gasoline draws on....

                                                                                        I repeat ... My gripe is not with the "clock punchers", its with Ibill as a corporation. What you need to do Slugger, is get the fuck off this message board and put your boss on the phone.

                                                                                        As far as the Dip shits thinking I get one or two sales ... Think its a game if you want .. "Big Tymers"

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                                                                                        • iBill John
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                          • 46

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Bobo


                                                                                          Don't come onto me. Ibill John is the homo, not me.
                                                                                          No Bobo, we think you are the homo....
                                                                                          ibill_john

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                                                                                          • Bobo
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                            • 2253

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by iBill John


                                                                                            Never came out of a closet, just lying in the weeds.
                                                                                            Always up for answering posts like your's.
                                                                                            Maybe you should spend less time answering my posts which are intended for fucked up entertainment purposes and run a better billing company.

                                                                                            FYI, I had to email pmsetups 3 times and after 2 weeks no reply...I finally had to call, twice before I could get a goddam password file rebuilt. Try implementing a simple automated tracking system that sends out a tracking number to webmasters that have made a request, like CCBILL does. That way the webmaster knows that you recieved the email. Oh, and when you recieve the emails, don't ignore them either....that's bad business.

                                                                                            If I called CCBILL right now, a tech would rebuild any password file I would want, and do it right there while I'm on the phone with him/her. It's called worldclass service, something you really need to do more research on.

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                                                                                            • Bobo
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                              • 2253

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by iBill John


                                                                                              No Bobo, we think you are the homo....
                                                                                              Classic Ibill policy...fuck around and don't get any work done. Is this the same IBILL that some other idiot was saying wires him 6 figure amounts and is an outstaning billing company? LOL Keep talking Ibill John, you're full of shit and need to get some of it out.

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                                                                                              • iBill John
                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                                • 46

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by wouncie



                                                                                                This beef is not with you John, dont you have better things to be doing than being an asshole on this message board. I bet you have a customer on hold right now!

                                                                                                Im just a webmaster venting to other webmasters in a place that I call home. There was no need for you to take try to come to Ibill_Cathys rescue and jump off in this fire with those gasoline draws on....

                                                                                                I repeat ... My gripe is not with the "clock punchers", its with Ibill as a corporation. What you need to do Slugger, is get the fuck off this message board and put your boss on the phone.

                                                                                                As far as the Dip shits thinking I get one or two sales ... Think its a game if you want .. "Big Tymers"
                                                                                                Better things to do, no I like being a asshole to you. No clients
                                                                                                on hold, I get shit taken care of.
                                                                                                As far as getting my boss, you can deal with me pal.
                                                                                                ibill_john

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                                                                                                • wouncie
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                                  • 1005

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by iBill John


                                                                                                  Better things to do, no I like being a asshole to you. No clients
                                                                                                  on hold, I get shit taken care of.
                                                                                                  As far as getting my boss, you can deal with me pal.
                                                                                                  YOU!..... Pal

                                                                                                  Go
                                                                                                  to
                                                                                                  BED!
                                                                                                  (Its 11:00pm in Cali) , unlike us, you have to be at work tomorrow!
                                                                                                  You're such an asshole I'm starting to get the idea you don't even work for fuckbill. Because if they actually DO have assholes like you on their team it's a very sad day

                                                                                                  As I said before, my gripe is NOT with the "clock punchers" it's with Ibill as a corporation.
                                                                                                  This will be my last time entertaining your Ass!

                                                                                                  Last edited by wouncie; 09-05-2002, 09:52 PM.

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                                                                                                  • pentae
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                                    • 899

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Bobo


                                                                                                    Ibill is the biggest because they were one of the first...but it's something that you have to maintain or you don't stay the biggest for long. Ibill will learn this the hard way.
                                                                                                    Alright,

                                                                                                    So when an iBill employee with a bit of balls starts posting on a hostile thread and try to sort out problems their clients are facing, you say you want to 'ejaculate in his ass' ..

                                                                                                    You don't think that makes you seem like an immature little kid?
                                                                                                    And to bring that back to 'ccbill is better so nyah' is really credible.

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