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Originally Posted by Murderous
What I am saying is that as a program owner you are almost required to have to put up with these types of affiliates. Not bash them or term their account because they piss you off, simply because THEY don't understand the whole deal. especially cross sells in your affiliate area. As not too many sponsors have this information available to the public affiliate area.
Now, when you come here to bitch, that is fine. Saying that affiliates are spoiled, is just you venting, but at the same time you are putting us all down.
directing him to an article or tutorial written and hosted on a 3rd party site will show the guy not only what a gaddamned cross sell is, but he will see that you are not trying to fuck him when he sees you are in compliance with the way cross sells work.
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I agree with you that we do have to put up with a lot and deal with affiliates who are new and do not understand things, and also deal with ones who are not all too polite. But, if they instead of listening and learning while I describe things to them they just want to call me a fucking scammer piece of shit, asshole, stealing liar mother fucker. Then I am not. He has not sent one hit of traffic, so how did I scam him?
I spent two hours explaining xsales to him, I sent him to epoch, and showed him numerous join pages and what was going on. He then said ?fuck you scammer, try to steal from me fuck you, I will expose you on the boards!?
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Originally Posted by Murderous
I have been bashed and flamed on GFY several times for bringing things to the boards, and in some cases it maybe could have been handled in a better manner. No matter how upset or right I thought I was. That doesn't even matter, I am an affiliate. I only understand what I learn from experience... and without conversations like you just had with this guy, I may never had learned what I know today. So should you have termed his account? Should you have vented here? should you have called out all the affiliates on this board accusing us of being spoiled? without us, where would YOU be?
or...
Should you just had said "Excuse me sir, but would you like me to direct you to some information explaining what cross sells are and how they work?"
and perhaps ask him what OS and Browser he is using to view your join pages, their very well could be some errors with other configurations and that may be costing YOU money... thank HIM later.
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I agree that affiliates will learn from experience, and when I am spending hours with you explaining things, offering advice, where to get traffic, the best ways to maximize it, and you just call me a fucking scammer piece of shit, fuck you, I will ruin your life. ETC ETC. I am not going to say, ?excuse me sir, how can I help you further?
I spent hours being polite with him and this is how he treated me.
Now to answer your questions:
You asked:
?Should you have terminated his account!?
My Reply:
Yes, totally. If you?ve never sent me traffic, and you want to bash my company, call me names, accuse me of being a scammer and a shaver, not knowing what I am doing, saying you are going to go to the boards and ruin my program then you are not going to be welcome to send me traffic. I don?t think that is off base what so ever.
You asked:
?Should I have vented here??
My Reply:
Why not, I am not venting, I am just saying that some people have a lot of nerve, they think they can boss and order people around and give threats of ?I?ll take my traffic elsewhere!? So fine take it elsewhere, I am not going to suck you off and be treated like shit for it.
You asked:
?Should I have called out all the affiliates on this board and accused them of being spoiled??
My Reply:
I did not say every person on this board was spoiled, but in fact many affiliates are. I buy your domains, I pay for your hosting, I design your galleries, I do 90% of the work for you, yet some still bitch and complain, the design is not good enough, can you photoshop the content for me and make it nicer?
I remember when affiliates use to purchase their own content, design their own galleries and actually work for their 70%. A lot of affiliates out there are very professional, but then others show up think if they submit 2 galleries they?ll become rich. There is a harsh reality that adult is not as easy to profit from. If you want to make money then work for it. Time and effort pay off.
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Originally Posted by Murderous
and perhaps ask him what OS and Browser he is using to view your join pages, their very well could be some errors with other configurations and that may be costing YOU money... thank HIM later.
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When he came to me claiming I was stealing from him and my site was fucked up and my join pages did not work or load I simply asked him to ?show me where so I can fix it ASAP!?
He said to me I don?t know my friend told me. So I asked him to ask his friend. He said fuck you scammer. So after going back and forth he finally showed me the page. He coded it all wrong so that nothing was working; his tables were broken so it caused the links to be all screwed up. I pointed it out to him and he said it was my fault because I was a scammer. So I copied his page, put it onto my server with everything fixed and showed him and said there you go, here is a zip of it working correctly, I fixed it up for you. He said, fuck that you are a scammer I don?t want that shit from you, it does not load, your program sucks and I am going to make everyone know it.
So, after that I terminated his account. I think I was within my right to do so.
If you would have done it differently I would love to know how.