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  • Nima
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2003
    • 2192

    #1

    members - do they watch more wmv's or mpgs?

    What do your members watch more? interestingly some of our paysites have members that watch more mpg's than wmv's and others is the exact opposite. Seems interesting to know why certain niches like certain video formats. What is your thought on this?
  • BV
    wtf
    • Sep 2001
    • 10914

    #2
    I think they watch what they like the most, doesn't really matter what format it is if they have windows media player associated with .mpg and .wmv files. I think this would be 95% or higher of everyone.

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    • NaughtyAlysha
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2002
      • 1843

      #3
      Here are some recent stats:
      wmv 53,206,362,269 bytes 60.22% 13,631 accesses
      mpg 18,414,253,201 bytes 20.84% 1,781 accesses

      And I post all of my videos in mpeg and wmv formats.
      Last edited by NaughtyAlysha; 12-05-2004, 01:00 PM.


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      • Nima
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2003
        • 2192

        #4
        yea but it seems for some of our sites they like mpg's more than wmv's and others they like wmv's more... I mean how could that be explained?

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        • emthree
          Dialer Kingpin
          • Jun 2003
          • 10816

          #5
          It would depend on how the types are offered to the surfer. WMV would probably come out ontop in most cases though.

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          • emthree
            Dialer Kingpin
            • Jun 2003
            • 10816

            #6
            Originally posted by Nima
            yea but it seems for some of our sites they like mpg's more than wmv's and others they like wmv's more... I mean how could that be explained?
            Streamed?

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            • ProjectNaked
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2004
              • 4309

              #7
              Insert Trail Marker -->

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              • Nima
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2003
                • 2192

                #8
                Originally posted by emthree
                Streamed?
                we stream the clips but the full video is not streamed

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                • Manowar
                  jellyfish  
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 71528

                  #9
                  Varies a LOT from user to user. hard to say which is used more

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                  • xclusive
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 35218

                    #10
                    Interesting question I plan on offering everything in both formats...

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                    • latinasojourn
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 3191

                      #11
                      wmv gives better image quality than mpg for a given file size.

                      problem is not everyone has or wants to use WMP so mpg is a more "universal" format.

                      so i give mpg

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                      • Kicker
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                        • Apr 2002
                        • 7040

                        #12
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                        • The Apprentice
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 839

                          #13
                          Bullshit, to all you WMV people.

                          That's half true- if they gave us more MPG's, we'd watch more of them... Get it?

                          Are you forgetting the MAC users out there?
                          Oh that's right, MAC users only account to %10 of the market share...

                          I heard America's wealthiest, accounts for 10% of the population.
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                          • dicknixon
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 548

                            #14
                            MAC users can play WMV now.
                            http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...x/default.aspx

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                            • SGS
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 5176

                              #15
                              We offer both but WMV is now much more popular with our members.
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                              • wes
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                                • Apr 2002
                                • 3150

                                #16
                                wmv

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                                • Steen2
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 7662

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                  [B]

                                  I heard America's wealthiest, accounts for 10% of the population.
                                  Of course the top 10% of America is the "most wealthy" 10%.

                                  Change the variable.
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                                  • The Apprentice
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2004
                                    • 839

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Steen2
                                    Of course the top 10% of America is the "most wealthy" 10%.

                                    Change the variable.
                                    We've all heard it before, you know what the fuck saying.
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                                    • basschick
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 2540

                                      #19
                                      i remember oystein said wmv was taking over, and a lot of other people are telling me the same - but one of the sites 75% are watching mpg when presented with both formats.

                                      i thought this was a pretty relevant question because a lot of people are planning to stop offering mpgs due to the many times they've been told no surfers watch them anymore. i guess my surfers didn't know that ;-)
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                                      • chaze
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 9775

                                        #20
                                        wmv
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                                        • Zprogramz
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2003
                                          • 1360

                                          #21
                                          I think Quicktime quality is far beyond windows media.

                                          Z

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                                          • The Apprentice
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2004
                                            • 839

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                            I think Quicktime quality is far beyond windows media.

                                            Z
                                            Indeed, it is. that's why I'm saying these people are smoking crack.

                                            But I can see why wmv's would be popular with the average Joe.
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                                            • Agent White
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 141

                                              #23
                                              Quicktime can't touch WMV.


                                              If you want to know what WMV can really do, download this clip from my server. 7:23 and 45.9 megs, making it about 2.08 megs per 20 second clip.... gallery level encoding.

                                              I encoded it myself using a program I wrote to deal directly with the encoder.

                                              All the encoding software currently out for WMV is garbage so I wrote my own. There's options and features that simply can't be set even with Windows Media Encoder itself.


                                              Remember, this is encoded at gallery level, 2 megs for every 20 seconds. Check it out.

                                              I used a DVD as the source, as that will show the greatest loss.

                                              Video is 720x480, with stereo sound at 48K.

                                              I am confident in saying it'll beat Xvid, DivX, Quicktime or any other codec you can think of for quality to bitrate. Anyone who thinks otherwise, I'd be glad to challenge to a taste test


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                                              • TheMob
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 8584

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                                Bullshit, to all you WMV people.

                                                That's half true- if they gave us more MPG's, we'd watch more of them... Get it?

                                                Are you forgetting the MAC users out there?
                                                Oh that's right, MAC users only account to %10 of the market share...

                                                I heard America's wealthiest, accounts for 10% of the population.
                                                well fuck shitty mpg's.. we want .mov's!

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                                                • alias
                                                  aliasx
                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                  • 19010

                                                  #25
                                                  .WMV is easy to fullscreen, .mov is often not able to be set fullscreen.. .
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                                                  • foolio
                                                    ICQ: 178725656
                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 12366

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                                    [B]
                                                    Are you forgetting the MAC users out there?
                                                    Oh that's right, MAC users only account to %10 of the market share...
                                                    who fucking cares since MAC peep can play WMVs

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                                                    • alias
                                                      aliasx
                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 19010

                                                      #27
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                                                      • Agent White
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 141

                                                        #28
                                                        I think if people could really use WMV to its full potential, everyone would be using it... for everything.


                                                        At this point though, there are still some transcoding bugs on the encoder side and all the attempts at making a decent interface to encode with have been really half assed.

                                                        Vegas and Premiere have really poor WMV encoding setups, and even Windows Media Encoder doesn't give you all the goods.

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                                                        • klinton
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                          • 8766

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Nima
                                                          What do your members watch more? interestingly some of our paysites have members that watch more mpg's than wmv's and others is the exact opposite. Seems interesting to know why certain niches like certain video formats. What is your thought on this?
                                                          I personally don't like wmv beacuse they play very sloow and often freeze....Epsecially if you have sth like celeron 400 and 128 ram ..but many poeple =surfers still have 'old' pcs...
                                                          mpg is also a standard and every video player can play it.

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                                                          • fischi
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                            • 252

                                                            #30
                                                            forward, rewind, pause, slow motion.
                                                            all this in a smooth manner.
                                                            wmv lacks that, mov not.

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                                                            • fischi
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                              • 252

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Agent White
                                                              Quicktime can't touch WMV.

                                                              I used a DVD as the source, as that will show the greatest loss.

                                                              Video is 720x480, with stereo sound at 48K.
                                                              Not running smoothly here. Framerate approxx. 1fps.

                                                              For quality vs. size, look at some movie-trailers
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                                                              • Dirty-Dough
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                • 496

                                                                #32
                                                                Depends on how you offer it..

                                                                Say you have one chunk mpeg and a cut up version of it in WMV or other way around.. that will change some numbers...

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                                                                • Screaming
                                                                  I can change this!!!!!
                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                  • 18972

                                                                  #33
                                                                  wmv defently

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                                                                  • James Greuel
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                    • 243

                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • Nima
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 2192

                                                                      #35
                                                                      so after all of this talk would you rather offer your members the full video in wmv or mpg because some offer both and others offer 1 or the other... it seems there is no right or wrong

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