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  • Kard63
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    • Nov 2003
    • 8944

    #1

    fake rape legal?

    I'm assuming all the rape sites otut there have fantasy disclaimers somewhere. Are they legal? The bestiality thing has me worried.
  • Probono
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    • Oct 2002
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    #2
    Ask again after the Extreme Associates trial.

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    • sean416
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      • Feb 2004
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      #3
      Originally posted by Probono
      Ask again after the Extreme Associates trial.
      http://www.americasdebate.com/forums...php/t3302.html
      Last edited by sean416; 12-04-2004, 05:31 PM.

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      • Kard63
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        • Nov 2003
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        #4
        does that mean you wouldnt touch it now ?

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        • Probono
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          • Oct 2002
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          #5
          http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/por...eme2003ind.pdf

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          • ProjectNaked
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            • Jul 2004
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            #6
            STAY THE FUCK AWAY UNLESS YOU LIKE COURT DATES AND PAYING ATTOURNEYS-

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            • sean416
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              • Feb 2004
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              #7

              thanks.

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              • maja
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                • Feb 2003
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                #8
                Good luck trying to find a credit card processor!!
                All the big ones won't touch it. you'll have to find one outta russia or korea

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                • sean416
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                  • Feb 2004
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kard63
                  does that mean you wouldnt touch it now ?
                  if you're already involved and thinking if its still worth the risk, talk to a lawyer who has experience in this industry. Don't count on GFY replies, shit could really hit the fan if you take advice here seriously and you'd only have yourself to blame.

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                  • xclusive
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                    • Apr 2004
                    • 35218

                    #10
                    yeah it's better to stay with the mainstream porn for now...

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                    • The Apprentice
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                      • Dec 2004
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                      #11
                      Thanks
                      thanks.
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                      • Ron
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                        • Feb 2002
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                        #12
                        When something is illegal, then it is illegal if its fake or not.

                        That goes for cp, incest, rape etc..

                        In short, no its not legal..


                        Just my 2 euro cents...
                        Last edited by Ron; 12-04-2004, 05:44 PM.
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                        • The Apprentice
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                          • Dec 2004
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                          #13
                          I like this quote:
                          Defending the right of pornographers to create even stomach-churning bile is just as important as defending the right of consenting adults to purchase and view it.
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                          • The Apprentice
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                            • Dec 2004
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by maja
                            Good luck trying to find a credit card processor!!
                            All the big ones won't touch it. you'll have to find one outta russia or korea

                            Can you trust foreign/overseas CC processors?
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                            • Babagirls
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                              • Feb 2001
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                              #15
                              i could never promote that shit. fake or not.
                              its fuckin disturbing & sick!




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                              • RRACY
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                                • Dec 2003
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Probono
                                Ask again after the Extreme Associates trial.
                                I think the extreme case is more about rape + murder. Like a snuff film.
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                                • Cavello
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                                  • Nov 2004
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Ron
                                  When something is illegal, then it is illegal if its fake or not.

                                  That goes for cp, incest, rape etc..

                                  In short, no its not legal..


                                  Just my 2 euro cents...

                                  That makes no sence. murder illegal ? yes. do they show it faked on TV ? every fucking day.

                                  so there is a big difrence between fake and not fake. Legaly
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                                  • wimpy
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                                    • Jan 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Cavello
                                    That makes no sence. murder illegal ? yes. do they show it faked on TV ? every fucking day.

                                    so there is a big difrence between fake and not fake. Legaly
                                    Yeah, but we're talking obsenity here, not legality. Murder is illegal but showing fake murder is fine because it's not obcene. Rape is obscene whether it's fake or not. Or at least that's the legal point the prosecutor wants to make.

                                    Of course, I see rape all the time in hollywood movies. But there is "artistic value" in those movies. At least that's the theory.

                                    I know an fbi agent who investigates obscenity. He asked me what content I thought was ok to show. I told him that John Asssshcroft was the personification of the Religious Right and if he had his way he'd shut down all porn, but he knows he can't so he doen't try. I went on to say that imo almost anything goes except things that are absolutely no question about it disgusting, like cp and "people shitting in other people's mouths." His reply was "yeah, that's about right."

                                    btw, this same agent knew that I ran some soft bdsm sites (soft in that I don't show much more than bondage accompanied by much verbage about what a terrible situation poor suzzie is in) and he had no problem with it.

                                    My personal belief is that simulated rape is too extreme, I would not go there.
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                                    • Pipeline Q
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                                      • Dec 2004
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                                      #19
                                      Depends on from what standpoint. Extreme Associates is going down over obscenity, not because fake rape is illegal.

                                      It's not illegal because nobody is actually being raped.

                                      Look at the virtual CP rulings from last year. Supreme Court says it's legal since no real children were actually being harmed.

                                      Even so, I wouldn't touch any of it. This sort of stuff is a magnet for trouble of all sorts.

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                                      • sean416
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                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 3633

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wimpy
                                        I went on to say that imo almost anything goes except things that are absolutely no question about it disgusting, like cp and "people shitting in other people's mouths."
                                        Idiot.

                                        John Ashcroft would say the exact same shit, but his definition of 'absolutely no question about it disgusting' is different from yours, so what makes your opinion any better? I agree with you about CP, that harms another human being. But as to whats obscene... how the fuck is it your business if someone wants to shit on someone else? You're a hypocrite.

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                                        • Major (Tom)
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                                          • Nov 2003
                                          • 32492

                                          #21
                                          1000% illegal

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                                          • wimpy
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                                            • Jan 2003
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by sean416
                                            Idiot.... how the fuck is it your business if someone wants to shit on someone else? You're a hypocrite.
                                            I never said I thought it was obscene. I don't give a damn what people do as long as they don't force it on others.

                                            I think the real issue is "what does a prosecutor think he can talk a jury into?" A prosecutor won't drag a bondage site into court, he'll lose because half the jury has done bondage. But he'll do beasts because most of the jury thinks it's disgusting and the few who don't won't admit it, so they'll vote for conviction.

                                            So I'll rephrase. It's about "what a prosecutor thinks he can talk a jury into." IE, the extreme stuff.
                                            Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind."

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