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  • Screaming
    I can change this!!!!!
    • Feb 2004
    • 18972
    #51
    what the fuck

    if you go back through this thread. the only people who claim to have got the wire have under 500 posts.

    smells really fucking fishy to me

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      • Jer
        God is Brazilian
        • Feb 2001
        • 10601
        #52
        Originally posted by Screaming
        what the fuck

        if you go back through this thread. the only people who claim to have got the wire have under 500 posts.

        smells really fucking fishy to me
        Originally posted by Penrod
        We got ours yesterday.
        Penrod has 2794 posts.

        And the post count doesn't mean shit.

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          • Screaming
            I can change this!!!!!
            • Feb 2004
            • 18972
            #53
            Originally posted by Jer
            Penrod has 2794 posts.

            And the post count doesn't mean shit.
            ok so you are saying they couldnt have made those names in wait for this to happen to get a couple extra days out of this shit?

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              • DeadFidel
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 6764
                #54
                1605

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                  • MickeyG
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2004
                    • 4134
                    #55
                    after an hour on the phone with various people the final story I got is ibill sent the wires to the bank on 12/1 like they were supposed to do and the bank sent half the wires yesterday (12/2) and is supposed to send the other half today (12/3)

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                      • Methodcash Rick
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1720
                        #56
                        Originally posted by MickeyG
                        after an hour on the phone with various people the final story I got is ibill sent the wires to the bank on 12/1 like they were supposed to do and the bank sent half the wires yesterday (12/2) and is supposed to send the other half today (12/3)
                        With all the misdirection, & lack of communication from IBill, I'll believe it when I see the money in my account..

                        If the 2nd half of the wires go out to day, that means we won't see them until Monday at the earliest, which gives them the weekend to come up with another lame excuse, as to why the wire isn't here...

                        It's almost time to gather up a lynching posse to take a trip to Deerfield...

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                          • Mr Dickovitch
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 1070
                            #57
                            Originally posted by BB-Rick
                            With all the misdirection, & lack of communication from IBill, I'll believe it when I see the money in my account..

                            If the 2nd half of the wires go out to day, that means we won't see them until Monday at the earliest, which gives them the weekend to come up with another lame excuse, as to why the wire isn't here...

                            It's almost time to gather up a lynching posse to take a trip to Deerfield...
                            Let me know when you are going, I will join in.

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                              • TheLegacy
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                                • Apr 2003
                                • 18255
                                #58
                                Originally posted by directfiesta

                                I am beginning to believe this each and every day. Remember the thread a few months back where so many were screaming at us that IBill will pay shortly?

                                Its amazing how many new excuses come up from "we are changing banks now" to "the checks in the mail" - fact is when you change banks that doesnt stop the payments, it should go without a hitch - just very poor management

                                webmasters are the landlord, and IBill is your tenant - this isnt a charity - and many of you have lost their companies and cant pay rent - so if your the landlord, what would you do with a tenant who keeps making promises and doesnt pay??
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                                  • directfiesta
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 30219
                                    #59
                                    Nothing in the bank .... at least in mine
                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                      • MickeyG
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2004
                                        • 4134
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by Mr Dickovitch
                                        Let me know when you are going, I will join in.
                                        Im local and have thought of going there serveral times but I don't think it would do any good.

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                                          • MickeyG
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2004
                                            • 4134
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by BB-Rick
                                            With all the misdirection, & lack of communication from IBill, I'll believe it when I see the money in my account..

                                            If the 2nd half of the wires go out to day, that means we won't see them until Monday at the earliest, which gives them the weekend to come up with another lame excuse, as to why the wire isn't here...

                                            It's almost time to gather up a lynching posse to take a trip to Deerfield...
                                            i totally agree and thats what I told the guy this is just more excuses, and you telling me oh its posted in the cmi doesnt mean shit. I wont believe you sent it until its in my bank account.

                                            I cant believe they would allow this happen when they know how much is at stake.

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                                              • Methodcash Rick
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2004
                                                • 1720
                                                #62
                                                Here's something that should make some feel better..

                                                According to the InterNext website, IBill is still slated to have a booth at the show..

                                                So, now I can show up, and reposess materials & equipment equal to the dollar amount they still owe me, plus the 6% fucking interest...

                                                Oh here's another question..

                                                What ever happened to this oh so elusive "Personal Guarantee"..

                                                Everytime I call ( if I actually sit through the 45 minute hold time ) I am always told, "We're still working on that".. Well it doesn't take a fucking MONTH to get a lawyer to write up a personal guarantee.


                                                THen I log into CMI just now and I see this..

                                                US ACH Payment Advisory, Check Date 12/01/04
                                                Please be assured that the payout for check date 12/01/04 was processed as posted and funds were transmitted for payment. We are currently working with our commercial bank regarding the delay in ACH payments posting to some of our clients? accounts. Our bank has confirmed that ACH payments may take up to 48 hours to clear. Clients receiving payment via wire transfer and check were not affected.


                                                So now the delay is only effecting ACH payouts, NOT wire transfers.. So if wires weren't delayed, why the fuck have so many not gotten them yet??

                                                Come on IBill, even you guys should know that if you tell 1 lie, sooner or later you're going to have to tell another lie to cover the 1st one, and as time goes on, the lies build up, and then you can't keep your lies straight..

                                                Now pay me the fucking money you owe me...

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                                                  • Shap
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 8313
                                                    #63
                                                    Just Called my bank. My wire came in today

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                                                      • MickeyG
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2004
                                                        • 4134
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by shap
                                                        Just Called my bank. My wire came in today
                                                        that's good to hear, thanks for the update.

                                                        hopefully others will post too

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                                                          • test44
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                            • 38
                                                            #65
                                                            CMI Post:

                                                            US ACH Payment Advisory, Check Date 12/01/04

                                                            Please be assured that the payout for check date 12/01/04 was processed as posted and funds were transmitted for payment. We are currently working with our commercial bank regarding the delay in ACH payments posting to some of our clients? accounts. Our bank has confirmed that ACH payments may take up to 48 hours to clear. Clients receiving payment via wire transfer and check were not affected.

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                                                              • johnnyhey
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                • 1172
                                                                #66
                                                                i still wanna know why there hasn't been an investigation launched by florida's attorney general into what the fuck went/is going on down there.

                                                                i'm considering my dough a wash. if they pay, i'll be fucking shocked.
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                                                                  • Methodcash Rick
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                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                    • 1720
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by johnnyhey
                                                                    i still wanna know why there hasn't been an investigation launched by florida's attorney general into what the fuck went/is going on down there.

                                                                    i'm considering my dough a wash. if they pay, i'll be fucking shocked.

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                                                                      • MickeyG
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                        • 4134
                                                                        #68
                                                                        excuse after excuse after excuse:


                                                                        iBill News
                                                                        Last Updated: Friday 3 December 2004 at 3:54 PM U.S. Eastern Time

                                                                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                        Update: US ACH Payment Advisory Check Date 12/01/04
                                                                        We?ve just identified that the problem with the ACH delay was as a result of a failure in the file format for the transmission of our ACHs to the new commercial bank. As part of the failure, a large portion of ACHs were rejected and another portion of clients received partial payments. Our IT and Accounting Departments are working diligently with our commercial bank to resolve this issue.

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                                                                          • Hinc
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                                            • 2577
                                                                            #69
                                                                            ...or maybe it´s correct. Had these delays happened a year ago, it´d have annoyed people not much more - but now, in the light of all thats happened, its a disaster. For Ibill, it couldnt come at a more unappropriate time - so i´d suppose they´d do most anything to avoid it.

                                                                            But anyway - if they havent tried paying, because they cant or wont...I guess it ends here. Else, I suppose a week more or less isnt too important, at least to me, given the waiting we´ve allready done, and at least I can imagine that using the new bank for the first time could be a root to the probs....who knows...

                                                                            Only time will tell whats forever, and whats a trend passing by....
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                                                                              • EZRhino
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                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                • 6258
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by jpoker
                                                                                A friend of mine received some iBill checks last week
                                                                                that bounced.

                                                                                - jpoker
                                                                                Ouch !!!!! Hope the bank fees werent more then the check was worth

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                                                                                  • Shoplifter
                                                                                    Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                    • 5884
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Any EU guys get the reserve wire that was supposed to go out yesterday?
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                                                                                      • Methodcash Rick
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                                        • 1720
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by MickeyG
                                                                                        excuse after excuse after excuse:


                                                                                        iBill News
                                                                                        Last Updated: Friday 3 December 2004 at 3:54 PM U.S. Eastern Time

                                                                                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                        Update: US ACH Payment Advisory Check Date 12/01/04
                                                                                        We?ve just identified that the problem with the ACH delay was as a result of a failure in the file format for the transmission of our ACHs to the new commercial bank. As part of the failure, a large portion of ACHs were rejected and another portion of clients received partial payments. Our IT and Accounting Departments are working diligently with our commercial bank to resolve this issue.
                                                                                        Just another in a LONG line of excuses ( and what I seriously suspect are lies )...

                                                                                        There's no bouncing back after this one.. They make keep their doors open, but their business for adult is shot to shit.

                                                                                        All I can say is Fuck You IBill, I hope you burn in hell for fucking over as many people as you have. Your total lack of management skills have cost people their businesses, and I suspect the place that they live..

                                                                                        May you rot in hell...

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                                                                                          • Sophmaster
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                                            • 310
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            it's 5:30 pm now (friday) ANS STILL NOTHING IN MY BANK ! So I called them and they said maybe it's a problem with my bank or infos I put about my bank ...LOL ! I gave exactly the same infos at ccbill and my wire was there 24h after ! Well I really want to beleive my money will be there monday ... but ....
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                                                                                              • MickeyG
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • May 2004
                                                                                                • 4134
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Follow up: US ACH Payment Advisory Check Date 12/01/04
                                                                                                We have successfully reformatted the ACH transmission file and our commercial bank has confirmed receipt. All rejected ACH transfers were resent and another partial payment was transmitted to make up the difference for clients that previously received a partial payment.

                                                                                                Once again, we do apologize for the inconvenience caused and appreciate your patience.


                                                                                                now we get to wait till monday and see if shows up.

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                                                                                                  • FaberX
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                                                                    • 181
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    This deserves a bump... Anyone else got their ACH after their 'fix'? I've seen on another post that someone got the paper check already. Come on people, give me some hope ;)

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                                                                                                      • MickeyG
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                                        • 4134
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        I doubt we'll see anything before monday.

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                                                                                                          • Mr Dickovitch
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                                                            • 1070
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            No ACH for me still this morning. If it doesn't come by Wednesday then I am ripping Ibill out of my site.

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                                                                                                              • Tipsy
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                • 6989
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by MickeyG
                                                                                                                excuse after excuse after excuse:


                                                                                                                iBill News
                                                                                                                Last Updated: Friday 3 December 2004 at 3:54 PM U.S. Eastern Time

                                                                                                                --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                                                Update: US ACH Payment Advisory Check Date 12/01/04
                                                                                                                We?ve just identified that the problem with the ACH delay was as a result of a failure in the file format for the transmission of our ACHs to the new commercial bank. As part of the failure, a large portion of ACHs were rejected and another portion of clients received partial payments. Our IT and Accounting Departments are working diligently with our commercial bank to resolve this issue.
                                                                                                                Why on earth do companies have to lie so much when they hit trouble? All they do is make matters so much worse and piss people off even more when the lies are so obvious and the promises not kept.

                                                                                                                Were the 'format' wrong then surely NO payment would go through rather than a 'partial payment'. If it's right it works, if it's wrong it doesn't work at all, surely as simple as that?

                                                                                                                Wouldn't it have been better all round just to say that payments will be made over the course of several days as funds become available (presuming they do)?

                                                                                                                It's the bullshit and bad damage control that's done more harm than anything else to iBill during this whole debacle.
                                                                                                                Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                                                                  • DEA - banned for life
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                                                                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                    • 7886
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    i get my check from ibill through the mail..should be here by monday latest tuesday...and i dont think post count has much to do with if somone got paid or not..my post count is 1 step away from being non-existant.,but im still in the same boat as some of the "big dawgs" with ibill owing me thousands..belive it or not some webmasters actually make a substantial liviing without a 10k + post count on GFY .As far as the ACH problems..i can see it happening with the new bank switch- over .The fact that some got wires is a positive thing...by next pay out on the 15th i think we will all awake from this 2 month long bad dream a little wiser as far as where we place our eggs and how many baskets we use to hold them

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                                                                                                                      • frankthetank
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                        • 616
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        I got my wire 2 days ago, I guess they must have been rebills because I havent worked with Ibill for over 2 years

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                                                                                                                          • tranza
                                                                                                                            ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                            • 57559
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by BB-Rick
                                                                                                                            Wire amount shows in CMI, but no wire to the bank...

                                                                                                                            <sarcasm>Thanks IBill, the effort is much appreciated</sarcasm>
                                                                                                                            I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                                                              • lucwylder
                                                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                • 82
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Is this the Mickey G from Missy days?
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                                                                                                                                  • Zester
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                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 5344
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    there should be a poll about who got he who did'nt
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                                                                                                                                      • MickeyG
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                                                                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                                                                        • 4134
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by lucwylder
                                                                                                                                        Is this the Mickey G from Missy days?
                                                                                                                                        no.

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                                                                                                                                          • MickeyG
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • May 2004
                                                                                                                                            • 4134
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            It's 11am EST monday morning. Anyone got their wires yet? Still nothing here

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                                                                                                                                              • Mr Dickovitch
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                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                • 1070
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Nothing.

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                                                                                                                                                  • TheWylders
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                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                    • 623
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Nothing for us yet

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                                                                                                                                                      • scardog
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                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                        • 886
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Paid today!

                                                                                                                                                        Although the owed monies and the 6% are still outstanding. Supposed to be paid first installment this month.

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                                                                                                                                                          • getfreeze
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                                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 123
                                                                                                                                                            #89
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                                                                                                                                                              • supermack
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                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                • 184
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                I had 4 IBill checks bounce on me in the past.

                                                                                                                                                                If i do receive anymore (havent yet).....Im still reluctant to cash them.


                                                                                                                                                                what, so my bank can charge me for ISF on those checks?

                                                                                                                                                                If Ibill has a booth at internext......its not going to be pretty.


                                                                                                                                                                Oh yea, they never paid me for those bounced checks either.
                                                                                                                                                                Last edited by supermack; 12-06-2004, 09:18 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Zester
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 5344
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
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                                                                                                                                                                      • camcutie
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                                        • 817
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        I got paid today!!! 11-1 to 11-15 ACH US It's a start!

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                                                                                                                                                                          • MickeyG
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                                                                                                                                                                            • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                            • 4134
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            I got paid today too

                                                                                                                                                                            Long Live iBill

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                                                                                                                                                                              • MickeyG
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                                                                                                                                                                                • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                • 4134
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                oh I spoke to an associate who also got their paper work for the repayment schedule last night. Seems they followed through on that too

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mr Dickovitch
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1070
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Paid!

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • oldnewbie
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 394
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        We have received our November 1-15 ACH payment today! The full amount shown in CMI. The first payment we've seen from Ibill since September 15th.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Good for you ,Ibill... You've now officially raised yourself above those "other"processors who had "problems", like GloBill, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Now, if we can get our payments on time, (hopefully this worked the kinks out of your new bank re: ACH payments) and start getting paid for the money owed from Sept-Oct, we'll be back on track.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Hinc
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 2577
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes great they´ve seemingly come through. Now let´s hope they start paying on time so we can all get back to business....
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • supermack
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 184
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                I havent recieved a damn thing from ibll .

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 7886
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I GOT MY CHECK..an no it wasnt for a measly 500 bucks...but I always get my check through standard US mail and it came on time for this pay period.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Webby
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 14956
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Mmm...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Suspect there is more truth than fiction in the possibilities of lies and "slippery conduct" when it comes to iBill.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        It is very strange wires don't seem to arrive that "supposed" to be sent.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        When you contact the Internation Branch of the bank, who have managed to locate plenty wire info in the last 10 years, - they can't even locate any attempted wire from iBill.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        If iBill claim a wire gets returned .. ask the same International Branch of the bank if all this info is adequate for a sucessful delivery of funds and the answer is yes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Even any rational and balanced mind has to leave some latitude for possible screwups - but this is beyond the point of credibility.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        BTW... Anyone that wants to take iBill up on "Promissory Notes" needs a shrink - not a good idea!! :-) They have broken their contract with clients and this "smudges" that relationship, or lack of one.
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