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  • SPIKE326
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2002
    • 257

    #1

    Server question

    Tomorrow I will be billed an extra $150USD for going over bandwidth. The reason for going over was a forum I have, and it used over 1000GB of bandwidth for the month of November. For the month of november I just made $50USD from sponsor ads on my forum. I've never done galleries before but I hear people make decent money at it so would I make more money doing galleries, say 8 hours a week, than to continue leaving my forum up?
  • Lacoste
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2003
    • 161

    #2
    Your host is cheating you. Change provider.
    Lacoste

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    • SPIKE326
      So Fucking Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 257

      #3
      Originally posted by Lacoste
      Your host is cheating you. Change provider.
      I'm using ServerMatrix and they charge $0.50 per gig when you go over; and for me I got a server a while ago so my limit is 1000GB a month

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      • V_RocKs
        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
        • Nov 2003
        • 32451

        #4
        What is your forums URL? How many users does it have? How many unique vistors a day?

        1000 gigs of transfer for a forum is a bit high... unless it is GFY ;)

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        • JUSTB
          Registered User
          • Mar 2003
          • 1740

          #5
          I always work with clients when they have unforeseen overages.

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          • SPIKE326
            So Fucking Banned
            • Oct 2002
            • 257

            #6
            Originally posted by JUSTB
            I always work with clients when they have unforeseen overages.
            Wow that's nice but that doesn't answer my question, thanks for spamming my topic though.

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            • SPIKE326
              So Fucking Banned
              • Oct 2002
              • 257

              #7
              Originally posted by V_RocKs
              What is your forums URL? How many users does it have? How many unique vistors a day?

              1000 gigs of transfer for a forum is a bit high... unless it is GFY ;)
              well I've turned the forum off for the day so it doesn't matter.

              I have over 2000 users, but I constantly remove leechers and squatters. If I didn't remove them I'd have over 10,000 members. I average 1600 uniques a day and 260,000 hits a day. The main reason for the high bandwidth useage is from allowing people to upload and watch videos.

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              • directfiesta
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2002
                • 30184

                #8
                Originally posted by SPIKE326
                The main reason for the high bandwidth useage is from allowing people to upload and watch videos.
                You just answered your question....


                Probably hotlinked also.....
                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                • SPIKE326
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 257

                  #9
                  Originally posted by directfiesta
                  You just answered your question....


                  Probably hotlinked also.....
                  No I have hotlink protection. But these videos are the main reason they come. Should I charge for entry into the videos sections or what?

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                  • BuckLover
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 1656

                    #10
                    Something is not right! you are being cheated!

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                    • Magg
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 4467

                      #11
                      Why are people saying you are being cheated? WTF do they know what youre hosting?


                      Charging admission into your videos area is up to you, as you will lose a considerable amount of visitors by charging a fee.
                      Perhaps its better to rethink what advertisers you have there to better target the traffic, and also the differant ways of content delivery you are using.


                      You can also try putting somewhere on the forum that people see all the time a message, such as "Please support /FORUM NAME/, visit these sponsors"
                      Last edited by Magg; 11-30-2004, 03:38 PM.

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                      • SPIKE326
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 257

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BuckLover
                        Something is not right! you are being cheated!
                        well my forum is http://www.juicyco.com . is it possible to determine if I am being hotlinked?

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                        • ThunderBalls
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 2926

                          #13
                          What type of forum? I might be interested in doing some advertising on it, post the URL.

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                          • Magg
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 4467

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SPIKE326
                            well my forum is http://www.juicyco.com . is it possible to determine if I am being hotlinked?
                            Check out your apache referrer logs for that domain

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                            • SPIKE326
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 257

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Magg
                              Check out your apache referrer logs for that domain
                              What should I look for in the apache referrer logs?

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                              • SPIKE326
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 257

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ThunderBalls
                                What type of forum? I might be interested in doing some advertising on it, post the URL.
                                http://www.juicyco.com

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                                • Magg
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 4467

                                  #17
                                  domains which shouldnt be linking traffic to your site, for example.

                                  visit the domains and see what reference they have to your site. you might find some pretty interesting links.

                                  easiest way to do this, is load the domain/webpage that you see in the referrer logs, right click the page, click on View Source, hit CTRL+F, then type in your domain and hit find and see where its at and check it..


                                  I assume you have cPanel, which means you have webalizer/awstats, check those for domains doing a lot of referring, and then dig deeper.

                                  using the awstats/webalizer method is not an end all be all, you have to do it manually as well, otherwise you're going to keep getting screwed out of transfer.


                                  what kind of hotlink protection do you have on? if you dont know how to write your own htaccess file for proper hotlink protection, cPanel has this built in for you.

                                  but, this isnt a final solution either, as Im not sure if this protects you on the IP level, or if just domain wide. So some smart hotlinker might see its protected and attempt to IPlink you and might still be able to steal your transfer.
                                  Last edited by Magg; 11-30-2004, 03:45 PM.

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                                  • Sparks
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2004
                                    • 2466

                                    #18
                                    Hey Spike,
                                    I know it's a pain in the butt changing servers, but if you are looking for cheaper high quality bandwidth email or ICQ us and we would be more than happy to help you out.

                                    Thanks!
                                    Bryan S.

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                                    • SPIKE326
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 257

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Hostive
                                      Hey Spike,
                                      I know it's a pain in the butt changing servers, but if you are looking for cheaper high quality bandwidth email or ICQ us and we would be more than happy to help you out.

                                      Thanks!
                                      Bryan S.
                                      I'll think about it
                                      Last edited by SPIKE326; 11-30-2004, 04:21 PM.

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                                      • SPIKE326
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 257

                                        #20
                                        I originally modified the htaccess file so when someone clicked a posted link from my site they'd be sent to google, but if you type it in manually into the "Address" bar or in Windows Media Player you can view it, thus use my bandwidth. How do I protect against people from hotlinking my videos?

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                                        • xanx
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2002
                                          • 3711

                                          #21
                                          I run a busy picture and video froum on phpbb also. If your content is unique you should charge for it. Not a lot, just enough to atleast keep your servers up. I can tell you right now with phpbb and video and pic content, you will outgrow a servermatrix server real quick.

                                          Just my 0.02 but servermatrix really sucks.. If I was you I would look for a dual xeon machine with like a 10mbps flate rate line. It will save you a ton in the end.

                                          My site is big by no means
                                          Our users have posted a total of 45055 articles
                                          We have 38839 registered users
                                          but it runs on (3) dual xeon machines and a 30mbps flate rate line, and still gets choked up somtimes.
                                          Last edited by xanx; 11-30-2004, 04:37 PM.

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                                          • SPIKE326
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 257

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by xanx
                                            I run a busy picture and video froum on phpbb also. If your content is unique you should charge for it. Not a lot, just enough to atleast keep your servers up. I can tell you right now with phpbb and video and pic content, you will outgrow a servermatrix server real quick.

                                            Just my 0.02 but servermatrix really sucks.. If I was you I would look for a dual xeon machine with like a 10mbps flate rate line. It will save you a ton in the end.

                                            My site is big by no means


                                            but it runs on (3) dual xeon machines and a 30mbps flate rate line, and still gets choked up somtimes.
                                            What is your forum and who do you use for your servers? And how do you make $ to pay for your 3 dual xeon machines?

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                                            • xanx
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 3711

                                              #23
                                              There a million ways to do it, be creative

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                                              • fris
                                                I have to go potty
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 55797

                                                #24
                                                put the forum back up

                                                find your log

                                                tail -f /home/user/site/httpd.log | more

                                                watch the traffic go by see where the links are coming from
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                                                • SPIKE326
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 257

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by xanx
                                                  There a million ways to do it, be creative
                                                  which is your forum and who do you use for your dual xeon servers?

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                                                  • xanx
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                    • 3711

                                                    #26
                                                    site: http://www.NowThatsFuckedUp.com

                                                    host: http://www.leaseweb.com

                                                    Their prices are very, very, good but there downfall is they are not 24/7 support which kinda sucks

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                                                    • SPIKE326
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 257

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by xanx
                                                      site: http://www.NowThatsFuckedUp.com

                                                      host: http://www.leaseweb.com

                                                      Their prices are very, very, good but there downfall is they are not 24/7 support which kinda sucks
                                                      so you pay for a years worth of hosting through a simple donation box? and to sign up for PPSbill, to use their credit card services, do you need a credit card yourself?

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                                                      • Magg
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                        • 4467

                                                        #28
                                                        they arnt in the USA, so if your traffic is mostly USA, everythings going to go real slow. Took a while to even load leaseweb's page.

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                                                        • Warden
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 2906

                                                          #29
                                                          I would have them double check the 95th percentile computation. I would imagine that it would be pretty hard to go over that much. I could be ah honest accounting error. I have had to double check those before myself.
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                                                          • azguy
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                            • 5167

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by SPIKE326
                                                            No I have hotlink protection. But these videos are the main reason they come. Should I charge for entry into the videos sections or what?
                                                            Create a PHP script to manage dynamic files management from sources at Geocities/other free providers. LOL

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