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  • Nismo
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    • May 2002
    • 4977

    #51
    Middle of 2000.

    I remember making a tgp gallery, uploading it to angelfire and submitting it to thehun using the IP address instead of "angelfire.com" and it got listed. That's where I made my first $ in this biz.
    i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

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    • Whit Just Whit
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      • Aug 2004
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      #52
      Hmmmm Mike what yr was that .... the first time i met you, Rob, Newbiz, Roger V.. lol Charlo...... ? That was a long time ago ... i remember those porn parties being so small ...



      Whitney

      Whitney
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      • HairToStay
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        • Oct 2002
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        #53
        First site went up in 1994 on a /~ domain, 1995 registered my first domain. Site is still up and running.

        First computer ran Windows 3.11, had 2 gigs of ram, bought 4 additional for $130 before ram went up to $45+ a gig for my next machine -- 16 gigs for $780.
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        • strobi
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          • Nov 2002
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          #54
          mid 1996

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          • strobi
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            • Nov 2002
            • 7383

            #55
            Originally posted by LAMike
            I saw the topic of what was the first program you used. I'm curious when everyone started.

            I started in 96... In 94 I got my first machine and taught myself how to do html. There was no front page or anything like that. I used programs like hot dog. They were basically html editors. The the big Windows 95 came out. I then entered a home page making contest and won.

            So from there I started surfing porn and downloading pics from AOL and other places and even some BBS's. I decided I could build a site. So I took all the pictures I had taken and started building a paysite. I then met up with Clay from Paycom and was their second ever client. So I set up a billing option and from there it all started.

            Before the paysite I use to own some very large top50 sites which is where people traded traffic before there was thumbnail posts. I use to own teenfactory, thepics, tropicalteens, and one other I cant remember. These sites did hundereds of thousands of hits a day. Plus I had a ton of circle jerk sites that we would send the traffic from top50 to top50 and just skim some of the traffic to send to xpics and they would prepay me like 50 grand a month for a few links. Man it was easy money back then..

            whats your story?
            oh man do I remember xpics easy grand/day...

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            • Pornkings
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              • Oct 2002
              • 5334

              #56
              Originally posted by LAMike
              I saw the topic of what was the first program you used. I'm curious when everyone started.

              I started in 96... In 94 I got my first machine and taught myself how to do html. There was no front page or anything like that. I used programs like hot dog. They were basically html editors. The the big Windows 95 came out. I then entered a home page making contest and won.

              So from there I started surfing porn and downloading pics from AOL and other places and even some BBS's. I decided I could build a site. So I took all the pictures I had taken and started building a paysite. I then met up with Clay from Paycom and was their second ever client. So I set up a billing option and from there it all started.

              Before the paysite I use to own some very large top50 sites which is where people traded traffic before there was thumbnail posts. I use to own teenfactory, thepics, tropicalteens, and one other I cant remember. These sites did hundereds of thousands of hits a day. Plus I had a ton of circle jerk sites that we would send the traffic from top50 to top50 and just skim some of the traffic to send to xpics and they would prepay me like 50 grand a month for a few links. Man it was easy money back then..

              whats your story?
              I remember sending you some fat checks for about 50k
              Pornkings.com

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              • cocky
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                • Jan 2004
                • 2044

                #57
                2003
                sold my internet training company and got bored
                started with a porn site review site
                The Best Porn Site

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                • LA Mike
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                  • Jul 2001
                  • 3056

                  #58
                  Originally posted by ArkansasDave
                  1999. YNOTBob sold his bar in Mission Beach and went to work for YNOTMasters and offerd me a position.
                  And its been jolly ever since

                  No shit.... this is funny... I hearing stuff from guys I have known for years but never knew this shit...

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                  • LA Mike
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                    • Jul 2001
                    • 3056

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Pornkings
                    I remember sending you some fat checks for about 50k

                    Yea, thats how I met you actually. Ian and you worked a deal with me for 50k for some traffic once. And you guys paid me when we got to internext. The next show we shared a booth.. hahaha

                    Ian's dad kicked me out of the limo and then found out who I was and made them wait why they went to get me and let me back in.. hahahaha funny shit

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                    • Pornkings
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                      • Oct 2002
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Whit Just Whit
                      Hmmmm Mike what yr was that .... the first time i met you, Rob, Newbiz, Roger V.. lol Charlo...... ? That was a long time ago ... i remember those porn parties being so small ...



                      Whitney
                      them were some good old days Charlo always had some fun secretaries
                      Pornkings.com

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                      • studio
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                        • Feb 2004
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                        #61
                        1999 shooting exclusive content... for 3 big websites...

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                        • Pornkings
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                          • Oct 2002
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by LAMike
                          Yea, thats how I met you actually. Ian and you worked a deal with me for 50k for some traffic once. And you guys paid me when we got to internext. The next show we shared a booth.. hahaha

                          Ian's dad kicked me out of the limo and then found out who I was and made them wait why they went to get me and let me back in.. hahahaha funny shit
                          I totally remember we were on fire back then at the shows LOL

                          All the pets....

                          And Ian'a dad is still going strong
                          Last edited by Pornkings; 11-30-2004, 11:42 AM.
                          Pornkings.com

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                          • LA Mike
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                            • Jul 2001
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by Pornkings
                            them were some good old days Charlo always had some fun secretaries

                            hahahaha



                            Hey Whitney...... What was that? About 3 or 4 years ago?

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                            • fris
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                              • Aug 2002
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                              #64
                              started with a blog with amateur pages on it, then moved on.
                              Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.


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                              • Pornkings
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                                • Oct 2002
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by LAMike
                                hahahaha



                                Hey Whitney...... What was that? About 3 or 4 years ago?
                                we are getting old but they keep getting younger LOL
                                Pornkings.com

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                                • Whit Just Whit
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                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 333

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by LAMike
                                  hahahaha



                                  Hey Whitney...... What was that? About 3 or 4 years ago?
                                  Oh sheesh... probably closer to 4 years forsure. I mean this is going to be my 4th LV internext show. And that was in May.. wow maybe closer to 4.5 yrs? Hmm that doesn't sound right either LOL I'll ask mich mash......

                                  And Roger V..... i remember the secretary riff raff.. and i didn't even work for Charlo yet LOL... oh how funny.

                                  Whitney

                                  Whitney
                                  ICQ:258589210
                                  AIM:Whitjustwhit

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                                  • LA Mike
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                                    • Jul 2001
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Whit Just Whit
                                    Oh sheesh... probably closer to 4 years forsure. I mean this is going to be my 4th LV internext show. And that was in May.. wow maybe closer to 4.5 yrs? Hmm that doesn't sound right either LOL I'll ask mich mash......

                                    And Roger V..... i remember the secretary riff raff.. and i didn't even work for Charlo yet LOL... oh how funny.

                                    Whitney

                                    hahaha, the good old days.... That who sexatary thing was funny as hell

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                                    • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                      • Apr 2004
                                      • 11190

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by LAMike
                                      Yea, thats so awesome. I never did mess with AVS at all... But man that shit was a big competitor to paysite programs since day one. You guys definately had a good niche.

                                      Yea, when I first got started I had to dump all my saving into my 1 man company just to get it afloat. Then for the first year I think I put 85% of what I made back into the company and even quit a really good job. It was so scary at first but those 18 hour days payed off. Hard work actually works I guess
                                      That's bitchen. The only difference is, we still work 18 hours a day.
                                      Knowing you have not only employees that live off of you, but just like yourself. There are thousands of webmasters out there living their lifestyles because of what you built.

                                      So work for us and anyone else that runs their own empire knows that it's not easy and you always need to be on top of everything.
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                                      • Whit Just Whit
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                                        • Aug 2004
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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by LAMike
                                        hahaha, the good old days.... That who sexatary thing was funny as hell
                                        Do you remember the whole "C B" thing...? Rob reminded me of tat not too long ago..... oh Leanne. That was one funny weekend... that started myu love for the price brothers... and Mich's ;)

                                        Whitney
                                        ICQ:258589210
                                        AIM:Whitjustwhit

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                                        • LA Mike
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                                          • Jul 2001
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                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                          That's bitchen. The only difference is, we still work 18 hours a day.
                                          Knowing you have not only employees that live off of you, but just like yourself. There are thousands of webmasters out there living their lifestyles because of what you built.

                                          So work for us and anyone else that runs their own empire knows that it's not easy and you always need to be on top of everything.
                                          Yep, Kinda of a trip to think what you have built!! But I have to admit, I dont work those 18 hour days anymore.. I'm down to about 8.... but I never really take vacations and shit

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                                          • LA Mike
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                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 3056

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Whit Just Whit
                                            Do you remember the whole "C B" thing...? Rob reminded me of tat not too long ago..... oh Leanne. That was one funny weekend... that started myu love for the price brothers... and Mich's ;)

                                            Thats right...I forgot about that CB'n chick... hahahah

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                                            • LA Mike
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                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 3056

                                              #72
                                              Ok, we were talking about XPICS.... Check this out for some old times...






















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                                              • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                • Apr 2004
                                                • 11190

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by LAMike
                                                Yep, Kinda of a trip to think what you have built!! But I have to admit, I dont work those 18 hour days anymore.. I'm down to about 8.... but I never really take vacations and shit
                                                You don't physically work but mentally you are working 24/7
                                                I don't take vacations either. I get home sick real quick. And I need to be online or I am so lost.
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                                                • BlackCrayon
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                                                  • Jun 2003
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                                                  #74
                                                  january 98 - my parents got the internet on their pentium 1 computer. i surfed a lot in my spare time as i had never been online before. within a few months that got boring so i decided to make my own site. i started off making a music site, that didn't make any money but it was fun and nice to hear feedback about it.

                                                  then i got an email from one of my free webhosts about how he was making so much money off adult check with porn sites. i didn't think too much of it but after i quit my shitty factory job i decided to give it a try. celeb sites were some of my favorite sites to check out back then so i decided to start one of my own that summer. it flopped because i didn't know what the hell was doing (making thumbs out of full sized pics by using the width, height shit) ect. well i didn't give up and tried again on better hosting after gaining some more know how. well this time it succeeded and even tho all i intended to do was make enough money to pay my car insurance i ended up making more than my parents combinded in 1999.

                                                  i moved out that year and have been doing it full time ever since. 6 years this month.
                                                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                  • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                    • Apr 2004
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by LAMike
                                                    Ok, we were talking about XPICS.... Check this out for some old times...






















                                                    There was not one adult site not using Xpics. They were huge. I knew them both. The two partners. I knew the numbers they were doing too and it was incredible.
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                                                    • LA Mike
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                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 3056

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                      You don't physically work but mentally you are working 24/7
                                                      I don't take vacations either. I get home sick real quick. And I need to be online or I am so lost.
                                                      In the past 9 years I think the longest I have gone without logging onto my computer has been 4 days.. And that was pretty recent. And its only happened a few times.... I just cant go without it... lol

                                                      Its like an addiction


                                                      "internet addiction" Next on 20/20 lol

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                                                      • webgurl
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                                                        • Aug 2002
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                                                        #77
                                                        i started in 2001 helping out the "boyfriend"
                                                        he created a monster out of me thereafter .....
                                                        Anyways

                                                        I have a new big ass project on the go right now thought i'd share

                                                        Hey Mike,
                                                        How's ROB ----> <------

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                                                        • LA Mike
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                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 3056

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by webgurl
                                                          i started in 2001 helping out the "boyfriend"
                                                          he created a monster out of me thereafter .....
                                                          Anyways

                                                          I have a new big ass project on the go right now thought i'd share

                                                          Hey Mike,
                                                          How's ROB ----> <------

                                                          LoL... He's doing well... Letting his hair grow out. Guess he was tired of looking like Mike? lol

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                                                          • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                            • Apr 2004
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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by LAMike
                                                            In the past 9 years I think the longest I have gone without logging onto my computer has been 4 days.. And that was pretty recent. And its only happened a few times.... I just cant go without it... lol

                                                            Its like an addiction


                                                            "internet addiction" Next on 20/20 lol
                                                            Same here, went to Cancun a few years ago. No Cell phone, No internet connection, Nothing. I was so lost for about 4 days too. I felt the world had ended.
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                                                            • LA Mike
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                                                              • Jul 2001
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                              Same here, went to Cancun a few years ago. No Cell phone, No internet connection, Nothing. I was so lost for about 4 days too. I felt the world had ended.

                                                              Yea, thats probably why I don't ever leave the country anymore. Well unless its Canada or something.

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                                                              • Mefo
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                                                                • Jun 2002
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                                                                #81
                                                                I started I think in 2000 my brother Quashe teached me how to make galleries man that were some easy times

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                                                                • Easton
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                                                                  • Sep 2002
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  july 2000, thanks to Dugmor
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                                                                  • LA Mike
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                                                                    • Jul 2001
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                    There was not one adult site not using Xpics. They were huge. I knew them both. The two partners. I knew the numbers they were doing too and it was incredible.
                                                                    Yea, I know the numbers too and holy shit is all I can say about that... Holy shit!! Those guys blew it. They had such a good thing going.

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                                                                    • Xenophage
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                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 12122

                                                                      #84
                                                                      1994 computer sales on the web sumitting sites to akebono.stanford.edu thats what yahoo was called back then

                                                                      1995 registered cyberzine.com joined YNOT started a hosting company webtv.com later changed to ipp.com

                                                                      1996 lots of per click programs.

                                                                      1999 cashsurfers.com massive non adult $$

                                                                      1999 dabble in live video

                                                                      2000 Bought streamray.com

                                                                      the rest is history.

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                                                                      • ToolGuy
                                                                        All Things RealityCash
                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                        • 253

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Funny this topic came up...just found my very first site a few weeks ago...lol
                                                                        How I started: In '97 got divorced and bought a WebTv (first time I had ever seen the internet). Saw all these personal websites and wanted one for myself...my ISP said it wasn't possible with WebTv but I didn't beleive him so eventually found a site called angelfire and this thing called HTML...no clue what it was but looked fun so I started learning it and created my very own web page http://www.angelfire.com/wa/litelred/ ...yahooo! I was addicted...lol Got my brother addicted to WebTv as well and since he was into porn he started figuring out how to make money with it. Few months go by and I buy my first PC a screaming 386...wow what a difference copy and paste makes...lol I made my first web page on that rocket of a PC for my construction biz http://olypen.com/shamrock/ then my brother kept getting help from me with HTML so I was getting used to how the adult world works and started my own site http://www.xxxhandyman.com From there I just kept trying to learn everything I could and am doing the same to this very day
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                                                                        • Pornkings
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                                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          almost started as content in 95 for Seth warshavsky LOL

                                                                          started in 96 with selling 600 ways to get rich cd roms and some crazy porn site with seth warshavsky

                                                                          then did therealworld.com for one of the first live voyour houses

                                                                          my fist online company was Internet business ventures

                                                                          the rest is history
                                                                          Last edited by Pornkings; 11-30-2004, 12:38 PM.
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                                                                          • huey
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                                                                            • Apr 2003
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            1999
                                                                            Ran a strip joint, my dj new about computers. Figured charge people to chat with the girls online. 5 years and 800 models later. : )
                                                                            opinions are like assholes.................


                                                                            "They aren't after me, they are AFTER YOU! Im just in their way"
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                                                                            • TheEbonyFelony
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              im just a tadpole
                                                                              no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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                                                                              • LA Mike
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                                                                                • 3056

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by huey
                                                                                1999
                                                                                Ran a strip joint, my dj new about computers. Figured charge people to chat with the girls online. 5 years and 800 models later. : )

                                                                                hahaha, nice

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                                                                                • FilthyRob
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  June 1997
                                                                                  AKA - Clubsexy

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                                                                                  • xNetworx
                                                                                    So Fucking What
                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                    • 14445

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Started in 99 with Adultcheck

                                                                                    weconvert.com now
                                                                                    Last edited by xNetworx; 11-30-2004, 12:50 PM.

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                                                                                    • BT
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Still working on the last chapter

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                                                                                      • Just Rob
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by webgurl
                                                                                        i started in 2001 helping out the "boyfriend"
                                                                                        he created a monster out of me thereafter .....
                                                                                        Anyways

                                                                                        I have a new big ass project on the go right now thought i'd share

                                                                                        Hey Mike,
                                                                                        How's ROB ----> <------
                                                                                        I'm good just hanging out! ;) Let's see i started working with mike in 96. i was the lucky one that got to submit all our crap to all the top 50 lists about 5 times a day...lol BORING! i'm so out of short descriptions its not even funny. Then we started silvercash and i got to stuff checks all day, but it was cool because we used to sit at home on the couch and watch movies while doing it. lol the good old days... Then Mike sent me to design school to learn photoshop and i started designing banners and our sites. The original Jungle girls... ha ha ha That went on for quite some time. Now we have other workers doing all that fun stuff and pretty much everything i do now is top secret sorry!

                                                                                        Whitster it's been a while for sure! That whole CB thing in funny. Tell leanne i said hi! oh wait never mind, she hated us. ha ha ha Just can't get enough of them canadian girls... ;)
                                                                                        Just Rob
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                                                                                        • Minte
                                                                                          Babemeister
                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 7081

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          I started in 1997,because i wanted to learn html after having done CAD design since the mid 80's. I had a consultant come in to teach me html..and after a few sessions he decided i was ready to build a site! He asked me what i wanted to build one about,,what interests etc...so the first thing that came into my mind was Babes and Bikini's.He checked to see if bikinipage.com was available and it was.Immediately Yahoo became my friend and gave the site first page listing for nearly 5 years.The rest is history.It started as a fun hobby and became lucrative immediately.
                                                                                          You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

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                                                                                          • Just Rob
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                                            I totally remember we were on fire back then at the shows LOL

                                                                                            All the pets....

                                                                                            And Ian'a dad is still going strong
                                                                                            Oh man that night was soooo funny! Ian's Dad is crazy... Not to mention his mom! fuck how many times did we stop the limo to go get more Alcohol??? good times for sure!
                                                                                            Just Rob
                                                                                            SilverCash Marketing
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                                                                                            • seeric
                                                                                              ..........
                                                                                              • Aug 2004
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              1999.

                                                                                              busty-amateurs.com

                                                                                              one of the greatest amateur sites to ever live.

                                                                                              R.I.P.

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                                                                                              • webgurl
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Just Rob
                                                                                                Just can't get enough of them canadian girls... ;)
                                                                                                i'm sorry just can't resist ...

                                                                                                I Luv You

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                                                                                                • - Jesus Christ -
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  9/11/2001

                                                                                                  It made me want to do something that would offend muslims.
                                                                                                  Last edited by - Jesus Christ -; 11-30-2004, 12:59 PM.

                                                                                                  Amen

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                                                                                                  • LA Mike
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                                                                    1999.

                                                                                                    busty-amateurs.com

                                                                                                    one of the greatest amateur sites to ever live.

                                                                                                    R.I.P.

                                                                                                    Whats our boy up to now? Howz his sister too?

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                                                                                                    • ScotG3X
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                                                                                                      • Oct 2004
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      I was hired on by WEGCash, Purecash, and G3X last month to provide the marketing. In 1998-2000 I worked in the dot coms in San Francisco on the mainstream affiliate programs. And between all the excitement, I ran golf courses. Don't ask.
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