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  • RogerV
    Banned!
    • Jul 2002
    • 12591

    #1

    How many companies Bit the dust in 2005

    Its just about time to pour some for the homies again.


    Every year programs,companies and people come and go

    this one's for ya
  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #2
    I think 2005 had fewer starters and fewer failures than the years before. People are starting to realise selling porn is not as easy as they thought.



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    • Matt Collins
      Confirmed User
      • May 2005
      • 1060

      #3
      I can't say how many bit the dust for sure. But I remember for a while there, I got an email every week from another program that just up and folding for good.

      Frankly I was surprised that the businesses were in such bad shape that they couldn't be sold even if just to save face.

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      • Joesho
        want to get in shape
        • Jan 2003
        • 12329

        #4
        I expect many will go in 2006, and I am sure that another evolving of the industry will take place.
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        • RogerV
          Banned!
          • Jul 2002
          • 12591

          #5
          Originally posted by Paul Markham
          I think 2005 had fewer starters and fewer failures than the years before. People are starting to realise selling porn is not as easy as they thought.
          Its alot easier to start up now with Nats and all the off the shelf products.
          but its not as easy to get traffic and do well like it used to be unless you have experience.

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          • adultchica
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2005
            • 5141

            #6
            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            I think 2005 had fewer starters and fewer failures than the years before. People are starting to realise selling porn is not as easy as they thought.
            I absolutely agree with this statement

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            • Sosa
              In Tushy Land
              • Oct 2002
              • 40149

              #7
              Originally posted by RogerV
              Its alot easier to start up now with Nats and all the off the shelf products.
              but its not as easy to get traffic and do well like it used to be unless you have experience.
              Or know the right hookups in the biz to really get going from the get go.

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              • Raven
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 6874

                #8
                Another part to this question is how many have just left the industry? We could hoist a few for them, too.
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                • Basic_man
                  Programming King Pin
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 27360

                  #9
                  I'm still here for another year, stronger !
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                  • bigdog
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 6964

                    #10
                    pinkdollars
                    platniumrevenue
                    dirtyduckets

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                    • PixeLs
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 11922

                      #11
                      Looks like another promising year ahead of us..

                      Make money on any traffic.
                      Bi-weekly payments with no hold.

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                      • Mike Okitch
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2004
                        • 4126

                        #12
                        Not really bit the dust but...MerchSolutions
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                        • Matt_WildCash
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1699

                          #13
                          Experience is key. Paying PPS isn't that hard if you have experience. Demands on sponsor programs have increased with more compeitition. It just means we have to be faster and smarter at evolving. Over the last 3 years of running Wildcash.com we perfected PPS & converting traffic to conversions. Now its just a scaling game. more sites, more content, more services to affilates.

                          I don't remember too big names that went in 2005. 2257 changed a few programs though.

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                          • xclusive
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 35218

                            #14
                            http://cjbucks.com/ closed on 11/1/05

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                            • xclusive
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 35218

                              #15
                              http://hawgscash.com/ is another

                              I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                              • RogerV
                                Banned!
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 12591

                                #16
                                Fatpaychecks

                                I give them props for sending out an email to pull links not many do they just fade away
                                Last edited by RogerV; 12-27-2005, 08:19 AM.

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                                • sfera
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 8597

                                  #17
                                  i stay with the strong ones

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                                  • nsfwnews
                                    Registered User
                                    • Apr 2004
                                    • 16

                                    #18
                                    Asian4you.com will be missed. Good conversion, and always in my top 5 earners.
                                    http://www.nsfwnews.com/ ...PR5 last time I checked

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                                    • Peaches
                                      Old broad
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 13933

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Raven
                                      Another part to this question is how many have just left the industry? We could hoist a few for them, too.

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                                      • RogerV
                                        Banned!
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 12591

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Peaches
                                        You will be back right this industry is to fun to leave

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                                        • Dalai lama
                                          Strength and Honor
                                          • Jul 2004
                                          • 16540

                                          #21
                                          I expect many to go in 2006.

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                                          • Dirty Dane
                                            Sick Fuck
                                            • Feb 2004
                                            • 9491

                                            #22
                                            I think most programs/websites stopped because of personal things. Like Tiffany Teen, though Phil-Flash-Cash still doing well.

                                            The most annoying part of 2005 was Ibill and the stunt Verotel did earlier this year

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                                            • bigdog
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 6964

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                              I think most programs/websites stopped because of personal things. Like Tiffany Teen, though Phil-Flash-Cash still doing well.

                                              The most annoying part of 2005 was Ibill and the stunt Verotel did earlier this year
                                              What did verotel do earlier this year?

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                                              • Dirty Dane
                                                Sick Fuck
                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 9491

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bigdog
                                                What did verotel do earlier this year?
                                                When I think of it twice, it was in 2004.

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                                                • Antonio
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 14136

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                  When I think of it twice, it was in 2004.
                                                  ok, what did they do in 2004? I don't remember major drama involving them

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                                                  • Nilsy42
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Dec 2005
                                                    • 118

                                                    #26
                                                    Verotel?

                                                    Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                    I think most programs/websites stopped because of personal things. Like Tiffany Teen, though Phil-Flash-Cash still doing well.

                                                    The most annoying part of 2005 was Ibill and the stunt Verotel did earlier this year
                                                    Yeah, what did they do???
                                                    I signed up there a couple of months ago... Was that a mistake?
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                                                    • Nilsy42
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                      • 118

                                                      #27
                                                      Biz bankrupcies...

                                                      Originally posted by RogerV
                                                      Its just about time to pour some for the homies again.
                                                      Every year programs,companies and people come and go
                                                      this one's for ya
                                                      I recon the biggest problem in all this is that newbies come in, and really think that "sex sells" and bingo, they're gonna get rich quick.
                                                      By assuming that, they invest WAY too much, before they realise that reality is completely different.

                                                      You only hear about the success stories, but never about all of the bancrupcies!
                                                      The entire statement of "sex sells", sucks.
                                                      I mean, everything sells, even a hotdog with ketchup sells.

                                                      But in porn, from the outside, you generally only see the glamour of it. Even I "play" the role, where I dress up in Versace rings and gold pimp stuff.
                                                      And a fair part of the "act" is playing dosile and laid back, like it's all really easy.
                                                      You don't really want to show the nitty gritty countless hours of planning and marketing events etc that you must do to get things roling.
                                                      But, "they" actually believe that you're drowning in cash... that has come easy.

                                                      But, with all the newbies etc, thinking that this is easy, they hardly ever actually digg into the what's and how's etc in advance. They don't even take a closer look at the reasons for why some go bust, and others do well.

                                                      At the start of 2004, I heard of a company over here that were starting a "brand new" Internett Erotic shop.... yeah, great stuff, nobody thought of that before...
                                                      And they went to a product supplier and had estimated approximately 20,000,000,- Norwegian kroner in one years turnover!!!!

                                                      Haha, fucking dorks.
                                                      A simple check at the tax office would have told them that the biggest company over here in this field, that also has 8 physical shops, only turned over 14 million the previous year, and that is after they have been in the branch for like 12 years, and supply all major outlets!

                                                      Naturally they went bust.
                                                      But, they are not alone in this misconception of this-is-the-easy path.

                                                      To a large degree, I think most bancrupcies are good, to clear away much of the crap and cons that's going on.

                                                      This is a marked based product. Just like everything else.
                                                      The only advantage I can think of, is that this is a lot more fun.
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                                                      • DutchTeenCash
                                                        I like Dutch Girls
                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 21684

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Nilsy42
                                                        Yeah, what did they do???
                                                        I signed up there a couple of months ago... Was that a mistake?
                                                        Tiff freaked over nude pics and walked. Dont worry PF still sells like wow, youve made a right decision.

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                                                        • CashLikeWhoa_Mike
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                          • 1202

                                                          #29
                                                          We came on the scene in 2001, we have seen a lot of companies come and go in those years.

                                                          Meanwhile we are going stronger than ever and coming off another record sales year.

                                                          The number of sites and programs that have shut down since 2001 is really high when you stop to think about it.

                                                          In 2006, I think we will see more shut downs than start ups.


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                                                          • Dirty Dane
                                                            Sick Fuck
                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                            • 9491

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Nilsy42
                                                            Yeah, what did they do???
                                                            I signed up there a couple of months ago... Was that a mistake?
                                                            Nothing wrong with the Phil-Flash sites. It was Tiffany Teen that left the program, they lost a converting model.

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                                                            • Dirty Dane
                                                              Sick Fuck
                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                              • 9491

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Antonio
                                                              ok, what did they do in 2004? I don't remember major drama involving them
                                                              They freezed and placed many accounts on 6 months hold.

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                                                              • seeric
                                                                ..........
                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                • 41917

                                                                #32
                                                                2006 is a whole new game. lets see how she shakes out. i know one thing. we'll both still be here at the end of 2006 and beyond rog.

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                                                                • Nilsy42
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                                  • 118

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Pf?

                                                                  Originally posted by thinkx
                                                                  Tiff freaked over nude pics and walked. Dont worry PF still sells like wow, youve made a right decision.

                                                                  If youre lookin for simular sites try us out hit me up for a cool deal 16 19 547 or bob AT dutchteencash DOT com
                                                                  I have no idea what a PF is, and I don't know who TIFF is either actually... hehe, I am Norwegian...

                                                                  I am not really sure what I am looking for to tell the truth... I just want something that works, and is easy enough for people to actually use.
                                                                  This Verotel thing seems to fix that.

                                                                  Last year (2003) I tried some YowCow thing. I kept getting Mails telling me people have signed up, but were waiting for their payments etc.
                                                                  At the same time, the same people were sending me direct E-Mails asking for a normal invoice as they couldn't figure out how to use the CowTow thing.

                                                                  So, this Verotel system seems to be doing the job for me at least.
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                                                                  • MrChips
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2005
                                                                    • 1504

                                                                    #34
                                                                    "how many companies bit the dust" - not sure - but Im going to make some more bite the dust this year.

                                                                    Fucking A I am.

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                                                                    • Nilsy42
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                                      • 118

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Saw your Site

                                                                      Originally posted by MrChips
                                                                      "how many companies bit the dust" - not sure - but Im going to make some more bite the dust this year.

                                                                      Fucking A I am.
                                                                      Hey there..
                                                                      I took a look at your Site. That looked like some pretty bad stats!
                                                                      But, I have nothing to compare it to, as I am new to this. Do you have stats from something that is better?
                                                                      What Site were these stats coming from?
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                                                                      • bopha
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                        • 1882

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I think PureCash left in 05. Sad to see them go.

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                                                                        • Rui
                                                                          web
                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                          • 9533

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Nilsy42 - brilliant post man.

                                                                          I expect lots of smaller sites using CCBILL and such (and even some with third-party solutions) to die (not closing in effective terms)....things are quite different nowadays and it takes some serious investment to stay on top and evolve.

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