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  • SmutGiant
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2003
    • 4896
    #1

    Could this industry use a collection agency?

    Anyone have any numbers on unpaid hosting bills, ad spots, content sales, unpaid affiliates etc.

    Is this industry large enough for a collections firm to make an introduction?

    Just a nightly brain fart, discuss...
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    • dunefield
      www.barely18movies.com
      • Feb 2003
      • 10920
      #2
      definately a service that can be done...

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        • SmutGiant
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2003
          • 4896
          #3
          Originally posted by dunefield
          definately a service that can be done...
          definetly

          but is there a market for it?

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            • detoxed
              vip member
              • Jan 2003
              • 17798
              #4
              It would be better using contracts

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                • SmutGiant
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 4896
                  #5
                  Originally posted by detoxed
                  It would be better using contracts
                  There is always going to be a percentage of people who breach contracts and don't pay. When you get a credit card, you abide by a legally binding contract, when you take out a loan, take out a mortgage etc... there are always those who will bail out

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                    • Nader
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 5086
                      #6
                      you might be right

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                        • Veterans Day
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 8403
                          #7
                          yes collecting from someone in britain, russia, manila, and so forth is quite easy
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                            • Nicky
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 30071
                              #8
                              My guess is that its big enough for something like that.....

                              gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                • Mike Okitch
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2004
                                  • 4126
                                  #9
                                  Can't 123bill.com be used for that as well as for selling memberships?
                                  SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                    • SmutGiant
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                                      • Oct 2003
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Mike Okitch
                                      Can't 123bill.com be used for that as well as for selling memberships?
                                      If I remember correctly 123bill serves more of a business to consumer market. My idea was strictly b2b, at least at the begining. People who bailed out on hosting bills, ad spots, sponsors who fail to pay without cause and several other things I can't think of off the top of my head right now.
                                      Last edited by SmutGiant; 11-23-2004, 05:27 PM.

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                                        • Veterans Day
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                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 8403
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by SmutGiant
                                          If I remember correctly 123bill serves more of a business to consumer market. My idea was strictly b2b, at least at the begining. People who bailed out on hosting bills, ad spots, sponsors who fail to pay without cause and several other things I can't think of off the top of my head right now.
                                          ya need to think how your gonna collect from 8k miles away
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                                            • Warden
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                                              • Nov 2002
                                              • 2906
                                              #12
                                              Hey develop the model and run with it. I think its a great idea!
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                                                • SmutGiant
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                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 4896
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Veterans Day
                                                  ya need to think how your gonna collect from 8k miles away
                                                  it can be done, but depending on the account may not be worth the long distance fees incured lol...

                                                  It could start off as a domestic service and if it prospers look into international avenues

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                                                    • xclusive
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                      • 35218
                                                      #14
                                                      well if you charge %25 I think that would give enough of a profit and make it worthwile for people to use you...

                                                      I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                                                        • detoxed
                                                          vip member
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 17798
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by SmutGiant
                                                          There is always going to be a percentage of people who breach contracts and don't pay. When you get a credit card, you abide by a legally binding contract, when you take out a loan, take out a mortgage etc... there are always those who will bail out

                                                          Well the point is with a contract its an easy lawsuit. Fuck waiting for a collection agency to maybe collect on it, and take their nice big chunk.

                                                          Just sue their ass.

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                                                            • Mike Okitch
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2004
                                                              • 4126
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by SmutGiant
                                                              If I remember correctly 123bill serves more of a business to consumer market. My idea was strictly b2b, at least at the begining. People who bailed out on hosting bills, ad spots, sponsors who fail to pay without cause and several other things I can't think of off the top of my head right now.
                                                              True, 123bill is marketed as a B2C solution.

                                                              But it would be worth asking them if it can be used for b2b as well. If their answer is yes, it looks like you'd have much everything that you need
                                                              SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                                • SmutGiant
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                                                                  • 4896
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by xclusive
                                                                  well if you charge %25 I think that would give enough of a profit and make it worthwile for people to use you...
                                                                  Anything collected will be "found money" for the clients... by the time account reaches collections it's a write off for the company. Any monies recovered will be counted as profit for the client.

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                                                                    • SmutGiant
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                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 4896
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                      Well the point is with a contract its an easy lawsuit. Fuck waiting for a collection agency to maybe collect on it, and take their nice big chunk.

                                                                      Just sue their ass.
                                                                      A lawsuit for a $200 hosting bill or a $300 ad spot? Highly unlikely.

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                                                                        • detoxed
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                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                          • 17798
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by SmutGiant
                                                                          A lawsuit for a $200 hosting bill or a $300 ad spot? Highly unlikely.

                                                                          Small claims? And without a signature, good luck collecting on shit. They can dispute the debt, and you have no proof they were ever involved.

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                                                                            • detoxed
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                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                              • 17798
                                                                              #20
                                                                              And why would people use this service when they could use a normal collection agency that will probably charge less

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                                                                                • SmutGiant
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                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                  • 4896
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                                  And why would people use this service when they could use a normal collection agency that will probably charge less
                                                                                  Adult companies may feel more comfortable keeping the business "in the family" lol... nevermind the fact that mainstream collections might not want to deal with adult.

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                                                                                    • SmutGiant
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                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                      • 4896
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Fuck you pay me

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                                                                                        • SmutGiant
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                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                          • 4896
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          bump for a new possible venture

                                                                                          Let's hear some more feedback!

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                                                                                            • Spunky
                                                                                              I need a beer
                                                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                                                              • 133978
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              I have a couple Goomba friends that would be intrested

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                                                                                                • SmutGiant
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by spunky
                                                                                                  I have a couple Goomba friends that would be intrested

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                                                                                                    • Screaming
                                                                                                      I can change this!!!!!
                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                                      • 18972
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by SmutGiant
                                                                                                      Fuck you pay me
                                                                                                      what better way is there to say something

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                                                                                                        • slapass
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                          • 14625
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I love this idea. Detoxed, lots of us have some small collections and do not have a relationship with a collection agency. And I do not want to build one to get my $200 from "cum slurpings sluts .com LLC".

                                                                                                          Do mainstream too as there are lots more companies that fold or don't pay in mainstream then adult.

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                                                                                                            • MonsterCock
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                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                              • 962
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Collection agencies don't even work.
                                                                                                              icq: no spam please, I won't buy:
                                                                                                              335-050-551

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                                                                                                                • SmutGiant
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                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                                                                  Small claims? And without a signature, good luck collecting on shit. They can dispute the debt, and you have no proof they were ever involved.
                                                                                                                  Well unless they like getting a phonecall everyday at 8:00 am they better pay up

                                                                                                                  certain things at the top of my head for proof... for hosting bills, the whois on the domain name hosted should be proof enough. Same with ad spots, whois on the domain being advertised etc. There are definetly ways to obtain evidence of a purchase with some tracing, but most companies don't have the time or resources to do so. Like I said before it's found money for the clients that otherwise would have wrote it off.

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                                                                                                                    • SmutGiant
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by MonsterCock
                                                                                                                      Collection agencies don't even work.
                                                                                                                      there's BIG money in collections

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                                                                                                                        • SmutGiant
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                                                                                                                            • Screaming
                                                                                                                              I can change this!!!!!
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                              • 18972
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Honestly, if they didnt fork over the cash for hosting, they have issues that need addressed in there life. You arent going to be able to get blood from a stone.

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                                                                                                                                • Mefo
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                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2002
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  that would be good, people from all over the world owe me money, but I don't think it's quite easy to get money from tons of different countries

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                                                                                                                                    • Taboo
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                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I just checked to see if AdultCollection.com was available but it's owned by Ult Search, who just sold their domain portfolio for $164M. LOL.
                                                                                                                                      http://board.gofuckyourself.com/show...adid=393035&s=
                                                                                                                                      maybe you can make them an offer before they close their deal.

                                                                                                                                      but great idea.

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                                                                                                                                        • SmutGiant
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Taboo
                                                                                                                                          I just checked to see if AdultCollection.com was available but it's owned by Ult Search, who just sold their domain portfolio for $164M. LOL.
                                                                                                                                          http://board.gofuckyourself.com/show...adid=393035&s=
                                                                                                                                          maybe you can make them an offer before they close their deal.

                                                                                                                                          but great idea.
                                                                                                                                          hehe no biggie, there are plenty of brandable domains available

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                                                                                                                                            • Herb Kornfield
                                                                                                                                              Is on the 1
                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 4996
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I worked in collections for almost 10 years pre internet days.

                                                                                                                                              You can do the adult collections, its a matter of having certain things in place. Detailing them all would be seriously long ass post...

                                                                                                                                              If you'd like to discuss ICQ me at 160541645 anytime

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                                                                                                                                                • SmutGiant
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
                                                                                                                                                  I worked in collections for almost 10 years pre internet days.

                                                                                                                                                  You can do the adult collections, its a matter of having certain things in place. Detailing them all would be seriously long ass post...

                                                                                                                                                  If you'd like to discuss ICQ me at 160541645 anytime
                                                                                                                                                  wow 10 years eh?

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                                                                                                                                                    • Pornopat
                                                                                                                                                      AdultTubeSubmits.com
                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 10598
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      How about an independent service that hold payments untill both parties agree on a job well done?
                                                                                                                                                      https://stripcash.com/sign-up/?userI...fff832eb95ab6a

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                                                                                                                                                        • SmutGiant
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Pornopat
                                                                                                                                                          How about an independent service that hold payments untill both parties agree on a job well done?
                                                                                                                                                          Wouldn't that be an Escrow service? Good idea nonetheless and I don't think there are any adult specific ones.

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                                                                                                                                                            • ProjectNaked
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                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2004
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              "Your son/daughter owes a sum of money to the "adult widget company." If they do not pay we will be posting a complete article in the local newspaper. Thank You


                                                                                                                                                              I think their is a future in it

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                                                                                                                                                                • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 51692
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  It definitly would help ... too many scammers arround . At least we can give them bad credit
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                                                                                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                                                                                    • GTS Mark
                                                                                                                                                                      Vrume Mark
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 20912
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      This is the company we deal with for collections, they only charge 20% of the amount COLLECTED.

                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.vwainc.com

                                                                                                                                                                      We have sent them a bunch of unpaid advertising invoices, I'm sure a few people from this board that owe us money will be hearing from them soon.

                                                                                                                                                                      DH

                                                                                                                                                                      P.S. They do deal with adult, there are at least 2 big companies in adult that already use them.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • SmutGiant
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                                                                                                                                          This is the company we deal with for collections, they only charge 20% of the amount COLLECTED.

                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.vwainc.com

                                                                                                                                                                          We have sent them a bunch of unpaid advertising invoices, I'm sure a few people from this board that owe us money will be hearing from them soon.

                                                                                                                                                                          DH

                                                                                                                                                                          P.S. They do deal with adult, there are at least 2 big companies in adult that already use them.
                                                                                                                                                                          Interesting stuff! Glad to hear there is actually a market for this. Do you have an approximate % of invoices that go unpaid?

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                                                                                                                                                                            • GTS Mark
                                                                                                                                                                              Vrume Mark
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 20912
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SmutGiant
                                                                                                                                                                              Do you have an approximate % of invoices that go unpaid?
                                                                                                                                                                              To be as polite as possible, that is none of your business.

                                                                                                                                                                              DH

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                                                                                                                                                                                • SmutGiant
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                                                                                                                                                  To be as polite as possible, that is none of your business.

                                                                                                                                                                                  DH
                                                                                                                                                                                  Not a problem, was just curious.

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