Fact: It is not true that any publicity is good publicity.

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  • Libertine
    sex dwarf
    • May 2002
    • 17860

    #1

    Fact: It is not true that any publicity is good publicity.

    See iBill.
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  • Mike Okitch
    Confirmed User
    • May 2004
    • 4126

    #2
    "Fact: It is not true that any publicity is good publicity."

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    • ServerGenius
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2002
      • 9377

      #3
      Originally posted by punkworld
      See iBill.
      WRONG!

      Bad business doesn't work......good business + bad publicity does work
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      • Libertine
        sex dwarf
        • May 2002
        • 17860

        #4
        Originally posted by DynaSpain
        WRONG!

        Bad business doesn't work......good business + bad publicity does work
        Wrong. Spread the rumor (on a large scale) that rat feces have been found in Danone desserts, watch the effects on their sales (and the actions of their lawyers as they find out you spread the rumours).

        There are multiple kinds of bad publicity, some are good for business, others are bad for business.
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        • ServerGenius
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2002
          • 9377

          #5
          Originally posted by punkworld
          Wrong. Spread the rumor (on a large scale) that rat feces have been found in Danone desserts, watch the effects on their sales (and the actions of their lawyers as they find out you spread the rumours).

          There are multiple kinds of bad publicity, some are good for business, others are bad for business.
          I still dissagree.....but I do agree that just bad publicity without any follow up
          actions might be harmful. If you handle bad publicity properly you will come
          out stronger than before.

          In your Danone example sales might drop for a while....but once it gets clear
          that Danone doesn't have rat feces in their products wether it's achieved by
          a lawsuit or anything else.....danone as a brand will be stronger than ever before.


          You're Dutch so I can use the example of IGLO frozen food. It's a good
          example coz instead of a rumour it was a fact that years ago they had
          traces of somekind of poisen in a number of their products.

          People were saying IGLO, Indien Giftig Langzaam Opeten. It made the
          brandname IGLO famous...and in the long haul they have profited from it
          in terms of brand recognition.



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          • ServerGenius
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 9377

            #6
            I'm even confident that in the case of Ibill, when they would pay-up all owned
            webmasters what they're owed + some nice incentive and the right marketing
            they could get back into business and possibly stronger than ever before.
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            • Libertine
              sex dwarf
              • May 2002
              • 17860

              #7
              Originally posted by DynaSpain
              I still dissagree.....but I do agree that just bad publicity without any follow up
              actions might be harmful. If you handle bad publicity properly you will come
              out stronger than before.

              In your Danone example sales might drop for a while....but once it gets clear
              that Danone doesn't have rat feces in their products wether it's achieved by
              a lawsuit or anything else.....danone as a brand will be stronger than ever before.


              You're Dutch so I can use the example of IGLO frozen food. It's a good
              example coz instead of a rumour it was a fact that years ago they had
              traces of somekind of poisen in a number of their products.

              People were saying IGLO, Indien Giftig Langzaam Opeten. It made the
              brandname IGLO famous...and in the long haul they have profited from it
              in terms of brand recognition.

              You're Dutch, so I can use the Buckler beer example. Dutch comedian Youp van 't Hek made the brand look completely ridiculous, and effectively killed it off in The Netherlands.

              The thing is, publicity leads to visibility, and the better visibility, the better it is for business. That much is true. However, the "bad" part of bad publicity can outweigh the visibility benefits. This is especially the case with brands that are already established (and thus benefit less from increased visibility), and which rely strongly on either an image of reliability or coolness.
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              • Libertine
                sex dwarf
                • May 2002
                • 17860

                #8
                Originally posted by DynaSpain
                I'm even confident that in the case of Ibill, when they would pay-up all owned
                webmasters what they're owed + some nice incentive and the right marketing
                they could get back into business and possibly stronger than ever before.
                I disagree. Many people who have been damaged by their actions will not take the risk again. People who are new to the industry or were not directly affected might take the chance, but I do not think many webmasters who lost money because of them before want a large chunk of their livelihood in the hands of iBill ever again, not even if they are repaid.
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                • wdforty
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 1824

                  #9
                  Also see AlienQ
                  icq 157542142

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                  • escorpio
                    doesn't fuck around.
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 23483

                    #10
                    see also Michael Jackson
                    Unvaxxed, still alive.

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                    • ServerGenius
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 9377

                      #11
                      You are partly right about buckler....however buckler's failure wasn't so much
                      because of Youp...but more off the bad response that followed by buckler.
                      Starting a lawsuit against Youp wheeping and crying kinda had the effect that
                      buckler indeed is a brand for whiny dorky people.

                      If Ibill now was "sold" with the right marketing spin. After some time people
                      would return. As mentioned before the follow up reaction to the bad publicity
                      is key to making profit of bad publicity
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                      • ServerGenius
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 9377

                        #12
                        Originally posted by escorpio
                        see also Michael Jackson
                        Yes we WILL see what happens with him when all is over (and if he doesn't
                        die before (however that might not even effect in the long haul)).
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                        • xxxjay
                          Tube groupie.
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13482

                          #13
                          see pimpdog
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                          • Libertine
                            sex dwarf
                            • May 2002
                            • 17860

                            #14
                            Originally posted by xxxjay
                            see pimpdog
                            Some negative publicity has positive effects, but that's a given.
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                            • Libertine
                              sex dwarf
                              • May 2002
                              • 17860

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DynaSpain
                              You are partly right about buckler....however buckler's failure wasn't so much
                              because of Youp...but more off the bad response that followed by buckler.
                              Starting a lawsuit against Youp wheeping and crying kinda had the effect that
                              buckler indeed is a brand for whiny dorky people.

                              If Ibill now was "sold" with the right marketing spin. After some time people
                              would return. As mentioned before the follow up reaction to the bad publicity
                              is key to making profit of bad publicity
                              Theoretically, it might be possible to turn all publicity into good publicity, but that is hardly relevant. In practice, it isn't possible, and that's what counts.
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                              • who
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 19593

                                #16
                                Saying 'any publicity is good publicity' is like when ugly people say 'real beauty is on the inside'. It's a crock.

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                                • ServerGenius
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 9377

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by who
                                  Saying 'any publicity is good publicity' is like when ugly people say 'real beauty is on the inside'. It's a crock.
                                  For you that may apply
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                                  • Jace
                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 35562

                                    #18
                                    a negative person associated with a 100% honest and solid company can do well

                                    a negative person associated with a shady company can do bad things

                                    it all depends on the time, place and factors

                                    see AlienQ....his little attitude on here has obviously cost him work and now he is broke and on GFY begging for money and a job

                                    but also see p1mpdogg...his little attitude is talked about everywhere and his business is thriving

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                                    • Jace
                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 35562

                                      #19
                                      BTW, DynaSpain....I had dinner with Blake tonight, he said YOU ARE THE MAN....ALL BOW TO THE MIGHTY DYNASPAIN!

                                      apparently his shit was pretty jacked up, huh?

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                                      • 2HousePlague
                                        CURATOR
                                        • Jul 2004
                                        • 14572

                                        #20



                                        2hp
                                        tada!

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                                        • ServerGenius
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2002
                                          • 9377

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Jace
                                          BTW, DynaSpain....I had dinner with Blake tonight, he said YOU ARE THE MAN....ALL BOW TO THE MIGHTY DYNASPAIN!

                                          apparently his shit was pretty jacked up, huh?
                                          hahaha Blake is a cool guy.....yeah it was pretty bad but it all worked out.
                                          His server is now snoaring happely running better than ever before
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                                          • Libertine
                                            sex dwarf
                                            • May 2002
                                            • 17860

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Jace
                                            see AlienQ....his little attitude on here has obviously cost him work and now he is broke and on GFY begging for money and a job
                                            He could still get work quite easily though, if only he would be a tad more sensible.
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                                            • JoeMeca
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Nov 2005
                                              • 2266

                                              #23
                                              not true at all

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                                              • Brujah
                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 22157

                                                #24
                                                Ask Chris about free publicity.
                                                http://www.freechris.org/

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