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  • Sid70
    Downshifter
    • Dec 2002
    • 16413

    #1

    Support The Freedom!

    Opposition claims Ukraine victory
    Ukraine opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko claims victory in the presidential election as some 200,000 supporters flood the capital Kiev to protest the contested poll.

    Trailing in the official results, Yushchenko has accused authorities of rigging Sunday's election in favor of Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych.


    FULL STORY http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/eu...ine/index.html
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    I want you to post your shit here so everyfuckingbody in Ukrainian government knows GFY IS FUCKING 'EM!!!
    Русня, идите нахуй!
  • $hurik
    Confirmed User
    • May 2003
    • 853

    #2
    my 2 cents to support freedom in Ukraine

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    • Sid70
      Downshifter
      • Dec 2002
      • 16413

      #3
      Русня, идите нахуй!

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      • roddog
        Registered User
        • Nov 2004
        • 1

        #4
        USA SUPPORTS FREEDOM

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        • Rantan
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2004
          • 714

          #5
          Originally posted by roddog
          USA SUPPORTS FREEDOM
          what a fine first post
          www.jesusjohnson.com

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          • polish_aristocrat
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2002
            • 40377

            #6
            Originally posted by Rantan
            what a fine first post
            I don't use ICQ anymore.

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            • Sid70
              Downshifter
              • Dec 2002
              • 16413

              #7
              POST MORE!!! NEED YOUR SUPPORT!!!
              Русня, идите нахуй!

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              • polish_aristocrat
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2002
                • 40377

                #8
                Originally posted by kievdesign
                POST MORE!!! NEED YOUR SUPPORT!!!
                The one thing I can say, from what I know, you're still in better situation than Belarus..not sure though if this is a good reason to be happy.
                I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                • dcortez
                  DINO CORTEZâ„¢
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 2145

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kievdesign
                  I want you to post your shit here so everyfuckingbody in Ukrainian government knows GFY IS FUCKING 'EM!!!
                  From one fellow 'baniak' to another...

                  Rigged elections ARE bad.

                  However, neither the Ukrainian community nor 'government' are likely to be phased by any comments here. In fact, once they have settled into their latest mess, they will be sure to add this site to their endless list of 'satanic playgrounds'.

                  Regardless of who is 'in charge', from my close personal experience (46 years), I believe the 'Ukrainian culture' (as is the case with many slavic and eastern bloc nationalities), suffers from serious social underdevelopment when it comes to issues regarding equal rights, racism and bigotry.

                  These are 'cultural traits' which have been bred into many generations and, as far as I am concerned, this poses a far greater threat than any kangaroo government.



                  -Dino

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                  • Sid70
                    Downshifter
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 16413

                    #10
                    dear dcortez,
                    it's not like i'm asking for a critic or , mr. polish_aristocrat, comparing with Belarus, it's a common sence to support freedom. If you think we can chat private about it let me know in icq 99469856, Thanks.
                    Last edited by Sid70; 11-23-2004, 07:11 AM.
                    Русня, идите нахуй!

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                    • dcortez
                      DINO CORTEZâ„¢
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 2145

                      #11
                      Originally posted by kievdesign
                      dear dcortez,
                      it's not like i'm asking for a critic or , mr. polish_aristocrat, comparing with Belarus, it's a common sence to support freedom. If you think we can chat private about it let me know in icq 99469856, Thanks.
                      Your post is a public call for support.

                      In the spirit of free relevant comment, just as you are contesting the results of the recent election as being unbalanced, I am making the same claim about the overall picture as it relates to the election results.

                      Supporting 'freedom' blindly and without ownership of related issues might be 'common' sense, but it is not sensible.

                      It is part of the problem - which is my point.

                      It seems like you may know (as do I), that the history of the Ukrainian people is tragic. They have sought national independence (with endless failure) for almost all of their existence as a culture. If you think that African Americans know the blues, just pull out any traditional Ukrainian folk song and grab a hanky.

                      I don't believe these things happen by accident, and I no longer subscribe to the 'poor persecuted victim' mentality I was raised on. If the people of Ukraine want the support of the globe, they need to grow up as a nation - and it starts with discussions like these.

                      When it comes to important international affairs, as certain countries gain attention through issues like this, it is prudent to address all important matters.

                      However, in the spirit of your post, again,

                      Yes, I think we all need to support the quest for achieving an honest democratic election in the Ukraine and all countries of the world.

                      -Dino

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                      • Sid70
                        Downshifter
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 16413

                        #12
                        respect your position. it's like i agree with you. probably you right saying the nation must be raised before asking for support internationally. One thing you are not getting, if it fails today it might be a piece of Russia soon loosing it's independance and having an Ex Con as the President. Wealthy and mid class ppl they do not want it, same as I do not want it. Today, current Government is supported only by oligarchs and dependant poor people. There is a chance for Ukraine to get rid of CON GOVERNMENT.

                        / *

                        also, i'm curious why it's all not smooth but that sharp. May be we do see outer world and still can't get close that makes us angry on our government? It was like that 20 years ago, we were not ready, tons of people here with Soviets in mind. Today we are balancing.

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                        Last edited by Sid70; 11-23-2004, 07:53 AM.
                        Русня, идите нахуй!

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                        • polish_aristocrat
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 40377

                          #13
                          Actually, the situation there is more interesting than I originally thought.

                          It really looks like a power shift there.

                          Gonna see some detailed news soon.

                          Politics is something I was strongly interested in few years ago, but then I said "fuck it", I almost stopped watching news etc, and I concentraded on the internet business.

                          So I know the general situaion there when it comes to the elections, but haven't been really following the details yet.

                          and please don't call me "mr"
                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                          • Sid70
                            Downshifter
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 16413

                            #14
                            dont get 'mr' wrong , sir
                            Русня, идите нахуй!

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                            • Smith
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 102

                              #15
                              And I thought rigged elections only happened in the states

                              But seriously, stay safe Andrei.

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                              • Corleone
                                C.R.E.A.M
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 15262

                                #16
                                Fight for your Right!

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