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  • EroticySteve
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    • Mar 2005
    • 4365

    #1

    Are you trustworthy? Are you loyal?

    Those are the questions.

    Again....

    Are you trustworthy?

    Are you loyal?
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  • Phoenix
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    • Nov 2002
    • 35475

    #2
    trustworthy and loyal all the way...unless there is no love the other way
    then im a vicious dog
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    • Raven
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      • Jul 2001
      • 6874

      #3
      I'd like to think so.

      My friends think so.

      My business relationships think so.

      Good question. I wonder if anyone would answer 'no'.
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      • jacked
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        • May 2004
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        #4
        what do you consider trustworthy and loyal?
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        • Michael O
          More Cowbell
          • Jul 2001
          • 10607

          #5
          Originally posted by EroticySteve
          Those are the questions.

          Again....

          Are you trustworthy?

          Are you loyal?
          Yes very much.

          Unless someone try to fuck me over then I'll do anything I can to destroy them.
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          • Dirty F
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            • Jul 2001
            • 59204

            #6
            Is anybody gonna say no?

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            • ServerGenius
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              #7
              no and no.....did I get the job?
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              • ServerGenius
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                • Feb 2002
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                #8
                Originally posted by Franck
                Is anybody gonna say no?
                Yes I just did
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                • EroticySteve
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                  • Mar 2005
                  • 4365

                  #9
                  Trustworthy and loyal go hand in hand.

                  I don't think there are levels of trust and loyalty. I think that real success is gauged in large part on how your success was earned. If you are successful in business or life by selling out those around you to reac your goals.
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                  • Brad Mitchell
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                    • Nov 2001
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                    #10
                    Why yes, I am!



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                    • CherryLipsRosa
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                      • Mar 2004
                      • 3603

                      #11
                      I don?t think anyone would say no but it all depends on the circumstances. If your neck is on the line then I am sure a lot won?t be loyal but in normal situations I think most people are.
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                      • Nookster
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                        • Nov 2005
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                        #12
                        Very trustworthy and loyal. See sig and my site please
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                        • bbe
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                          • Feb 2005
                          • 110

                          #13
                          To a point. Under torture everyone has their limit.

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                          • EroticySteve
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                            • Mar 2005
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by IwantU_Rosalia_Lara
                            I don?t think anyone would say no but it all depends on the circumstances. If your neck is on the line then I am sure a lot won?t be loyal but in normal situations I think most people are.
                            Loyalty and trust are unconditional or at least should be.
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                            • Marshal
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                              • Jun 2005
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                              #15
                              Why are you asking? I am... or I think I am...
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                              • EroticySteve
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                                • Mar 2005
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by nettrust
                                Why are you asking? I am... or I think I am...
                                I ask out of curiosity.
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                                • Abithefiend
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                                  • Nov 2005
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                                  #17
                                  Totally absolutely 100%.

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                                  • RogerV
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                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 12591

                                    #18
                                    To this day I have never fucked anyone over.. Sometimes I wonder if its worth it

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                                    • EroticySteve
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                                      • Mar 2005
                                      • 4365

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by RogerV
                                      To this day I have never fucked anyone over.. Sometimes I wonder if its worth it
                                      It's totally worth it Roger, trust and loyalty are amongst the most important things in business. I respect that about you and I'm sure others would say the same thing.

                                      Of course from time to time people don't respect these things but in the long-run the good guy does win.
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                                      • StuartD
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                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 29903

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by RogerV
                                        To this day I have never fucked anyone over.. Sometimes I wonder if its worth it
                                        I really wish I was able to sometimes... perhaps I'd be doing much better financially if I could. But....
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                                        • EroticySteve
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                                          • Mar 2005
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                                          I really wish I was able to sometimes... perhaps I'd be doing much better financially if I could. But....
                                          You can do just as well by not fucking people over.

                                          You can get farther by helping people up rather than selling them out.
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                                          • RuthB
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                                            • May 2005
                                            • 7248

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by EroticySteve
                                            Loyalty and trust are unconditional or at least should be.
                                            Steve, I disagree wholeheartedly.

                                            If I trust you, and am loyal to you and you screw me over, should I then just nod my head and continue to trust you and be loyal 'unconditionally'? I don't think so!

                                            Trust is easily given at the start of a relationship, but once it's been lost it is that much HARDER to regain.

                                            Loyalty is a little different, sometimes we remain loyal to those who do us wrong, but then there are usually 'circumstances' that must be considered for those type of breaches.

                                            I give my trust willingly, loyalty's a little different to me, and I only give that to those who I feel deserve it (family, friends, the company I work for, etc)

                                            I believe it is better to believe in people and have to be proved wrong than to NOT believe in people and live a bitter suspicious/paranoid life cos you can't trust anyone!

                                            But in no way whatsoever will I give my trust unconditionally, I feel that would be naive and open the door to being used/abused/walked over by whomever you've given that gift to! (and no, that's not paranoia, it's realism) So I'll be trusting, but smart about it!

                                            If I'm shown that I shouldn't trust someone, there's no way I'll keep giving it 'unconditionally'. Of course, I'm not saying trust can't be rebuilt, but it's usually a LONG process.

                                            It's not like when you love your kids/family, where no matter what they do you'll love them anyway (unconditionally) cos they're your kids/family - loyalty and trust offer incredible strengths but they can also be easily shattered into many fragments.

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                                            • EroticySteve
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by WEGRuth
                                              Steve, I disagree wholeheartedly.

                                              If I trust you, and am loyal to you and you screw me over, should I then just nod my head and continue to trust you and be loyal 'unconditionally'? I don't think so!

                                              Trust is easily given at the start of a relationship, but once it's been lost it is that much HARDER to regain.

                                              Loyalty is a little different, sometimes we remain loyal to those who do us wrong, but then there are usually 'circumstances' that must be considered for those type of breaches.

                                              I give my trust willingly, loyalty's a little different to me, and I only give that to those who I feel deserve it (family, friends, the company I work for, etc)

                                              I believe it is better to believe in people and have to be proved wrong than to NOT believe in people and live a bitter suspicious/paranoid life cos you can't trust anyone!

                                              But in no way whatsoever will I give my trust unconditionally, I feel that would be naive and open the door to being used/abused/walked over by whomever you've given that gift to! (and no, that's not paranoia, it's realism) So I'll be trusting, but smart about it!

                                              If I'm shown that I shouldn't trust someone, there's no way I'll keep giving it 'unconditionally'. Of course, I'm not saying trust can't be rebuilt, but it's usually a LONG process.

                                              It's not like when you love your kids/family, where no matter what they do you'll love them anyway (unconditionally) cos they're your kids/family - loyalty and trust offer incredible strengths but they can also be easily shattered into many fragments.

                                              great points and thank you for your input.

                                              I think you raised a good argument.

                                              I still say that you'll have some people who WILL screw you over in life. They are low-life people without regard for trust or respect, in time they'll get theirs, since it's a Karmic world we live in.

                                              But just because someone does screw you over or sell you out, what should you do in return?

                                              Should you go out of your way to put the hurt on them? Should you let anger get the best of you and retaliate and break a bond of trust that you made to them?

                                              If you do that, does it make you any better of a person? Or did you let emotions now control your core and make you a disloyal person?

                                              What I should have added is that in trust and loyalty should be unconditional given a completely reciprocal share of trust and respect.
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                                              • RuthB
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                                                • May 2005
                                                • 7248

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by EroticySteve
                                                I still say that you'll have some people who WILL screw you over in life. They are low-life people without regard for trust or respect, in time they'll get theirs, since it's a Karmic world we live in.

                                                But just because someone does screw you over or sell you out, what should you do in return?

                                                Should you go out of your way to put the hurt on them? Should you let anger get the best of you and retaliate and break a bond of trust that you made to them?
                                                I'm not the kind of person who believes much in the 'retaliation/revenge' theory (though I know many who thoroughly subscribe to it).

                                                For me it all depends on the individual circumstances - if it's a minor breach then I would give that person another try, albeit with much more limitations (to begin with anyways) on how much I'll trust them.

                                                If it's a major breach I will probably just cut them out of my life and say 'good riddance to bad rubbish' and move on (unless I'm given a serious reason not to).

                                                It doesn't need for me to DO anything, just make sure I'm not opening myself up to a world of hurt by being naive.

                                                Then again, if someone I trusted did something unbelievably terrible to my family (like killed my kid or anything of that seriousness) I'm not sure the rules would stay the same.

                                                It's all a matter of degree and circumstance. Even those with the highest moral fibre can crack when people they believe in break those bonds of trust.
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                                                • EroticySteve
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                                                  • Mar 2005
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                                                  #25
                                                  props and respect.

                                                  I don't believe in retaliation either.

                                                  I trust those who are trustworthy unconditionally.

                                                  There are many people who are not trustworthy, I do not trust them but I may be loyal to them just the same.

                                                  Trust and loyalty while they work hand in hand are two separate entities.
                                                  Originally posted by WEGRuth
                                                  I'm not the kind of person who believes much in the 'retaliation/revenge' theory (though I know many who thoroughly subscribe to it).

                                                  For me it all depends on the individual circumstances - if it's a minor breach then I would give that person another try, albeit with much more limitations (to begin with anyways) on how much I'll trust them.

                                                  If it's a major breach I will probably just cut them out of my life and say 'good riddance to bad rubbish' and move on (unless I'm given a serious reason not to).

                                                  It doesn't need for me to DO anything, just make sure I'm not opening myself up to a world of hurt by being naive.

                                                  Then again, if someone I trusted did something unbelievably terrible to my family (like killed my kid or anything of that seriousness) I'm not sure the rules would stay the same.

                                                  It's all a matter of degree and circumstance. Even those with the highest moral fibre can crack when people they believe in break those bonds of trust.
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                                                  • pornguy
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                                                    #26
                                                    Im not!!!

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                                                    • Manowar
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                                                      • Dec 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      i am both

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                                                      • com
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                                                        • Aug 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        Death before Dishonor!

                                                        Originally posted by EroticySteve
                                                        Those are the questions.

                                                        Again....

                                                        Are you trustworthy?

                                                        Are you loyal?

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                                                        • EroticySteve
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                                                          • Mar 2005
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by com
                                                          Death before Dishonor!
                                                          There is no valor in victory without integrity.
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                                                          • B2BwithJoeD
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                                                            #30
                                                            Nice thread Steve - especially this time of year when we are all summing up 2005 and planning on where we will direct our energies and our business in 2006.

                                                            I think trust and loyalty have less to do with how one acts, although that is the manifestation - than that they are two of a handful of qualities that define who you ARE.
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                                                            • EroticySteve
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                                                              • Mar 2005
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by klixxxman
                                                              Nice thread Steve - especially this time of year when we are all summing up 2005 and planning on where we will direct our energies and our business in 2006.

                                                              I think trust and loyalty have less to do with how one acts, although that is the manifestation - than that they are two of a handful of qualities that define who you ARE.
                                                              I have seen and met some brilliant professionals in business and I've met some people who are so inept that I wouldn't trust them with a bag of garbage. These two qualities transcend the type of business that they are in.

                                                              Bill Gates for example, I hope that he gives away his fortune down to the last dime, he didn't propel his company honorably, at least that is how it was depicted in Pirates of the Silicon Valley.

                                                              I am loyal and trustworthy. Many people confide their secrets with me because they know that I do not pass judgement, nor would I divulge these secrets. I'm not vengeful or angry, just an all around good person who gets ahead by being smart, and good.
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                                                              • com
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                                                                • Aug 2003
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by EroticySteve
                                                                There is no valor in victory without integrity.
                                                                My sentiments exactly, my good man! Cheers!

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                                                                • com
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  running along the same lines... "Few forgive injury... none forgive contempt"

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                                                                  • gornyhuy
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                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                    • 18041

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I'm:
                                                                    Trustworthy
                                                                    Loyal
                                                                    Helpful
                                                                    Friendly
                                                                    Courteous
                                                                    Kind
                                                                    Obediant
                                                                    Cheerful
                                                                    Thrifty
                                                                    Brave
                                                                    Clean
                                                                    and Reverant.

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                                                                    • Nicky
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                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 30071

                                                                      #35
                                                                      yep, can say I am

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                                                                      • Tom_PM
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                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                        • 16443

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I'll leave the answer to others who expect me to be those things.
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                                                                        • seeric
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                                                                          • 41917

                                                                          #37
                                                                          yes.

                                                                          and


                                                                          yes.

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                                                                          • Loryn
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                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 12853

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I am very loyal and become extremely defensive about my friends and my boss.

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                                                                            • Tala
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                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 23368

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                                              I'm:
                                                                              Trustworthy
                                                                              Loyal
                                                                              Helpful
                                                                              Friendly
                                                                              Courteous
                                                                              Kind
                                                                              Obediant
                                                                              Cheerful
                                                                              Thrifty
                                                                              Brave
                                                                              Clean
                                                                              and Reverant.
                                                                              And he comes complete with lots of badges! Act now and he'll even throw in some cheap popcorn and a campfire! Hurry, supplies are limitied! (No COD, void where prohibited, some assembly required. Batteries not included.)

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                                                                              • Tom_PM
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                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                • 16443

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Tala
                                                                                And he comes complete with lots of badges! Act now and he'll even throw in some cheap popcorn and a campfire! Hurry, supplies are limitied! (No COD, void where prohibited, some assembly required. Batteries not included.)
                                                                                LOL!
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                                                                                • Sharky
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                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                  • 4938

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                                                  I'm:
                                                                                  Trustworthy
                                                                                  Loyal
                                                                                  Helpful
                                                                                  Friendly
                                                                                  Courteous
                                                                                  Kind
                                                                                  Obediant
                                                                                  Cheerful
                                                                                  Thrifty
                                                                                  Brave
                                                                                  Clean
                                                                                  and Reverant.
                                                                                  ahahahahahha!

                                                                                  I was just about to post this. To this day I still remember this motto.
                                                                                  Sharky

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                                                                                  • Tricksy
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                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                    • 2601

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I am trustworthy and loyal.


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                                                                                    • tristan_D
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                                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                                      • 7865

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I asked my officemate to recite this one and I was shocked he still remembered,after 20 years
                                                                                      Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                                                      I'm:
                                                                                      Trustworthy
                                                                                      Loyal
                                                                                      Helpful
                                                                                      Friendly
                                                                                      Courteous
                                                                                      Kind
                                                                                      Obediant
                                                                                      Cheerful
                                                                                      Thrifty
                                                                                      Brave
                                                                                      Clean
                                                                                      and Reverant.
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                                                                                      • Trixie Racer
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                                                                                        • Aug 2003
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        I'm very trustworthy and loyal. Most people cannot return trust and loyalty so I keep a very small group of friends.
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                                                                                        • Aly
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                                                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                                                          • 1881

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Only to the worthy (which is somewhat subjective of course)
                                                                                          .

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                                                                                          • Bluewire Ross
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                                                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                                                            • 2169

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I am trustworthy and loyal.It's very important to have a smooth and lasting relationship.

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