Biggest peice of dogshit I have ever seen, what a crock of shit. FUCK the NBA. Ben Wallace the son of a bitch who started the whole god damn thing got 6 fucking games, fuck that shit.
I guess if you go to an NBA game and wanna fuck a team up just start throwing shit at them and rushing the floor until they fight back, they'll suspend the 3 best players on the team and fuck them for the year when they could be contending for a championship. FUCK IT, I am done with the NBA.
Originally posted by Mr Exotic Biggest peice of dogshit I have ever seen, what a crock of shit. FUCK the NBA. Ben Wallace the son of a bitch who started the whole god damn thing got 6 fucking games, fuck that shit.
I guess if you go to an NBA game and wanna fuck a team up just start throwing shit at them and rushing the floor until they fight back, they'll suspend the 3 best players on the team and fuck them for the year when they could be contending for a championship. FUCK IT, I am done with the NBA.
Just saw Stern make his statement, says the vote was unanimous to suspend Artest for the year, it was 1-0. FUCK THAT PRICK ASS SON OF A BITCH MOTHERFUCKER!!!!! God damn I have never ever seen such bullshit in sports.
Originally posted by Mr Exotic Biggest peice of dogshit I have ever seen, what a crock of shit. FUCK the NBA. Ben Wallace the son of a bitch who started the whole god damn thing got 6 fucking games, fuck that shit.
Wallace ain't the one to charge into the stands and throw punches at fans.
I guess if you go to an NBA game and wanna fuck a team up just start throwing shit at them and rushing the floor until they fight back, they'll suspend the 3 best players on the team and fuck them for the year when they could be contending for a championship. FUCK IT, I am done with the NBA.
Your comparing players rushing the stands and punching guys in the face to players defending themselves...apples and oranges. If the players were fighting back in self-defense, they won't get the book throw at them like Artest, Jackson and O'Neal.
running up in the stands = questionable, but still a FORM of self-defense, since "assault" by law can be something thrown and smacking you in the face
punching the guys who ran up to artest ON the court after the incident in the stands was over = clearly self defense, the individuals running up to Artest while he was ON THE COURT could only have the motive to do harm to the players or the situation, and if they had a weapon or knife, we'd all be singing a different tune...but the thing is, how in the FUCK is Ron Artest to know he DOESNT have a weapon?!? Thats self-defense friends.
Originally posted by Mr Exotic You dont call having things such as bottles and chairs being thrown at you assault?
Yes, that is assault for sure...
BUT...
I think the point is that these things (bottles, chairs) only occurred after the incident escalated - and it was determined the escalation was because Artest jumped into the stands.
You just can't jump into the stands because Beer was thrown on you.
Originally posted by paxton Yes, that is assault for sure...
BUT...
I think the point is that these things (bottles, chairs) only occurred after the incident escalated - and it was determined the escalation was because Artest jumped into the stands.
You just can't jump into the stands because Beer was thrown on you.
hahahah ya i gotcha but...
Artest didn't injure the man he went after, he grabbed him by the face and said "you throw something man? you throw something??!" and the guy said no. The only reason it ESCALADED BEYOND that was because the OTHER fans didn't just stand around and try to help the situation, they threw beer on him, and started socking him in the face. Fans created the situation, then PUSHED the situation, period.
I know damn well if someone hits me in the head with a coke bottle, dumps beer on me, or throws a chair at my head I sure as hell will consider it assault and defend myself.
Stern is a prick ass motherfucker. My therory is the Pacers are a small market team who are definite contenders for a championship, who just handed the defending champions their ass on their own home court. Pacers in the finals would be bad for ratings, so why not eliminate them while Stern has a chance to. That is the only reason I can think of for this decision.
Hell from all the sports broadcasters I have seen all have pretty much sided with the players. Yes, under normal circumstances a player going into the stands is totally unacceptable, but what happened in that game was certainly NOT normal circumstances. And Wallace the son of a bitch who started it all got 6 fucking games, that is just a total outrage.
A reasonable suspension would have been 10 games at the most, for maybe Artest, Oneal, and Wallace, and maybe 5 for Jackson, I would have thought even that would have been a bit harsh. But Jesus the whole year and 30 games is just someone out trying to ruin the Pacers.
Originally posted by Mr Exotic A reasonable suspension would have been 10 games at the most, for maybe Artest, Oneal, and Wallace, and maybe 5 for Jackson, I would have thought even that would have been a bit harsh. But Jesus the whole year and 30 games is just someone out trying to ruin the Pacers.
Reasonable, would be for him to have criminal charges brought against him. He went and started punching someone that he wasn't even sure had thrown a beer on him. Just cuz 'your team' is gonna be fucked for this, doesn't make his punishment wrong.
Originally posted by turbo Reasonable, would be for him to have criminal charges brought against him. He went and started punching someone that he wasn't even sure had thrown a beer on him. Just cuz 'your team' is gonna be fucked for this, doesn't make his punishment wrong.
The fat little jew is putting all the blame on the players. ITs all aobut business not right and wrong for him.
Originally posted by Mr Exotic A reasonable suspension would have been 10 games at the most, for maybe Artest, Oneal, and Wallace, and maybe 5 for Jackson, I would have thought even that would have been a bit harsh. But Jesus the whole year and 30 games is just someone out trying to ruin the Pacers.
I agree 100% with you there!!!! this is ridiculous
the pistons and their fans started it all and now the pacers are paying for it
Originally posted by turbo Reasonable, would be for him to have criminal charges brought against him. He went and started punching someone that he wasn't even sure had thrown a beer on him. Just cuz 'your team' is gonna be fucked for this, doesn't make his punishment wrong.
I dont really give a shit about the NBA, yes I do live right outside Indianapolis, and this was the first year I would try and catch an occaisonal Pacers game in a long time, but I wouldnt call myself a fan. I guess I am little biased, but alot of people will agree with me that it is total bullshit.
Originally posted by turbo Reasonable, would be for him to have criminal charges brought against him. He went and started punching someone that he wasn't even sure had thrown a beer on him. Just cuz 'your team' is gonna be fucked for this, doesn't make his punishment wrong.
I'm all for charging them...
Make sure you also charge all of the fans involved too, though.
Originally posted by Mr Exotic I dont really give a shit about the NBA, yes I do live right outside Indianapolis, and this was the first year I would try and catch an occaisonal Pacers game in a long time, but I wouldnt call myself a fan. I guess I am little biased, but alot of people will agree with me that it is total bullshit.
well i'm from akron/cleveland, and i hate the pacers, and Ron Artest really...
but i think think this is total bullshit... i don't even WANT my cavs making the playoffs and doing well this year if its because some other team got FUCKED OVER like the Pacers have.
Originally posted by Mr Exotic Biggest peice of dogshit I have ever seen, what a crock of shit. FUCK the NBA. Ben Wallace the son of a bitch who started the whole god damn thing got 6 fucking games, fuck that shit.
I guess if you go to an NBA game and wanna fuck a team up just start throwing shit at them and rushing the floor until they fight back, they'll suspend the 3 best players on the team and fuck them for the year when they could be contending for a championship. FUCK IT, I am done with the NBA.
Biggest peice of dogshit I have ever seen, what a crock of shit. FUCK the NBA. Ben Wallace the son of a bitch who started the whole god damn thing got 6 fucking games, fuck that shit.
Wallace reacted to a flagrent foul againts him, like every other player would in the league.
He started it my ass!
Im sure the league had a much better perspective on this and reviewed every tape. Artest and and the others had this coming and Im happy to see the league come down the way they did.
He broke the law. He did not just break some rules.
Exactly! He ran into the stands and kicked the shit out of some dude who didnt do a damn thing. The guy he beat ws not the person that even threw the cup. Watch criminal charges come againsts those three also. Oakland County does not fuck around. If nothing else, those three players need to get out the check book now because I few of those fans are going to be rich.
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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls Wallace reacted to a flagrent foul againts him, like every other player would in the league.
He started it my ass!
Im sure the league had a much better perspective on this and reviewed every tape. Artest and and the others had this coming and Im happy to see the league come down the way they did.
Exactly! He ran into the stands and kicked the shit out of some dude who didnt do a damn thing. The guy he beat ws not the person that even threw the cup. Watch criminal charges come againsts those three also. Oakland County does not fuck around. If nothing else, those three players need to get out the check book now because I few of those fans are going to be rich.
Yup, Artest broke the law. To the fans that not only provoked the fight but actually went onto the court to start fights should get charged also.
Oh they are. They have all been named and on the local new stations. Those are season ticket people in that area. They knew who they were.
Two of them have already turned themselfs in.
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Why was Reggie Miller suspended... wasnt he in street clothes and his only role in the event was holding people back?
As far as the suspensions.. they were deserved. If a PROFFESIONAL athelete cant handle heckling and having shit thrown at them from the crowd, then they should find a new line of work. Ever see the shit outfielders in baseball have to put up with?
As for Big Ben, he should be suspended for a longer period of time. I agree he reacted like 90% of the league would have after the hard foul, and he would have lost a game or 2 from that alone. But he continued to go after Artest even after he was laying down on the score table and then went on to encourage the crowds activity whren the punches were being thrown. Incuiting a riot is a felony in most states, but i doubt any chrges will be filed against him.
Cant suspend or arrest the MVP from the world champs can ya... would be bad for business and thats all the NBA is after all, one big business
Originally posted by PerfectionGirls Oh they are. They have all been named and on the local new stations. Those are season ticket people in that area. They knew who they were.
Two of them have already turned themselfs in.
Super.
Here's my question. If Artest hit the guy in the stands then he broke the law. I couldn't make out what happened up there. Somebody here said he simply held a guy and asked "Did you throw beer at me". If that's the case, I don't think he broke the law. Was it innappropriate behavior to rush the stands, yes. If he did not hit anybody up there, he should be fine and doesn't deserve to be out the season.
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