Why DID Scott Trimble get fired from MensNiche???

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  • Juicy D. Links
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #51
    50.......

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    • MaDalton
      I am Amazing Content!
      • Feb 2004
      • 39861

      #52
      Originally posted by Kimmykim
      While you certainly should be able to defend yourself given the email that was sent to affiliates detailing one side of the situation, I think you might have gone a bit overboard, just like your former employer did.

      I really do wonder when this industry is going to realize that airing dirty laundry about business and business practices is really declasse and juvenile.

      Now if that computer that you were typing to your wife on was paid for by you, Scott, then I think you've probably got some more ammunition in case you decide to seek legal action, but if that computer was paid for by MN, then I believe they are entitled to record and review any and all usage of that computer. If they did indeed pay for it, and you thought you had rights to privacy that you didn't, that is really more your naivete than anything else.

      I certainly hope that both sides of this situation will take some time to stop and reflect on their actions, and consider the possible consequences both in terms of legal issues and in terms of how the "community" perceives the situation.

      every logging of actions and/or communication without knowledge of the person in question over here is illegal and could not be used in lawsuits. no matter who bought the computer.

      you have to tell the person that you are going to log his actions.

      so he would have good chances winning a lawsuit here, cause what MN did (if they did it) would have been illegal.
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      • cocksy
        Registered User
        • Aug 2004
        • 84

        #53
        I wonder if MN will reply to this thread.

        Also: are you planning on sueing them for the e-mail they sent out?
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        • Juicy D. Links
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 122992

          #54
          fake plane ticket? ouchhhhhhhhhhh

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          • Juicy D. Links
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2001
            • 122992

            #55
            got a copy of the ticket by any chance? I would love to see that

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            • brand0n
              been very busy
              • Nov 2002
              • 26983

              #56
              id like to see the tickets lol
              want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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              • NickPapageorgio
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2004
                • 8323

                #57
                Originally posted by Kimmykim
                While you certainly should be able to defend yourself given the email that was sent to affiliates detailing one side of the situation, I think you might have gone a bit overboard, just like your former employer did.

                I really do wonder when this industry is going to realize that airing dirty laundry about business and business practices is really declasse and juvenile.

                Now if that computer that you were typing to your wife on was paid for by you, Scott, then I think you've probably got some more ammunition in case you decide to seek legal action, but if that computer was paid for by MN, then I believe they are entitled to record and review any and all usage of that computer. If they did indeed pay for it, and you thought you had rights to privacy that you didn't, that is really more your naivete than anything else.

                I certainly hope that both sides of this situation will take some time to stop and reflect on their actions, and consider the possible consequences both in terms of legal issues and in terms of how the "community" perceives the situation.
                Great post KK.

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                • Steve
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 6894

                  #58
                  you were unhappy where you worked - now you dont work there anymore
                  sounds like things worked out

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                  • tranza
                    ICQ: 197-556-237
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 57559

                    #59
                    I hope MensNiche replys at least to explain about the fake plane ticket.
                    I'm just a newbie.

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                    • JFK
                      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 67369

                      #60
                      Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                      Fake plane tickets ? OUCH ...
                      CHEEEEEZZZZZZY isnt it ?

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                      • DVTimes
                        xxx
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 31650

                        #61
                        To me the email has done MN harm. I would not promote them or want to do anything with them for sending out that email.

                        It was unprofessional.

                        I do not care if you did anything or not. No firm should have done that. Its the sort of thing a 6 year old would do.
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                        • Juicy D. Links
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 122992

                          #62
                          Originally posted by JFK
                          CHEEEEEZZZZZZY isnt it ?
                          Indeed...........below cheezy even.

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                          • Juicy D. Links
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2001
                            • 122992

                            #63
                            Originally posted by allanuk
                            To me the email has done MN harm. I would not promote them or want to do anything with them for sending out that email.

                            It was unprofessional.

                            I do not care if you did anything or not. No firm should have done that. Its the sort of thing a 6 year old would do.
                            Agreed when i got the email I thought to myself wtf is this at first?

                            If your gonna ax someone so be it... we dont want the details nobodys biz

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                            • FreakinWebmaster
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 935

                              #64
                              Originally posted by allanuk
                              To me the email has done MN harm. I would not promote them or want to do anything with them for sending out that email.

                              It was unprofessional.

                              I do not care if you did anything or not. No firm should have done that. Its the sort of thing a 6 year old would do.

                              You basically just repeated what I said:
                              Originally posted by FreakinWebmaster
                              For a business to outright try to ruin an employee's reputation is ludicrous and childish. An email stating Scott has been let go for un-business-like practices would have been fine. Instead MN tried to ruin Scott?s reputation.

                              I must say Scott has always been able to help me increase my sales and I always have had respect for him, he knows what he is doing for sure! Scott is a straight up guy especially meeting him in person. Darren on the other had has insulted me on GFY in the past because I didn?t like certain ideas. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

                              All I can say is good luck Scott, you will be much better off!

                              Even though I believe both sides of the story are at fault, because of the way MN conducts business, I will be starting to remove my links.

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                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 28609

                                #65
                                i dont know of the private details of this case but in all fairness here's what most likely happened..

                                For whatever reason MN was unsatisfied with scott's performance, ( maybe even complaints about being blown off via icq ) so MN thought , maybe we should review his icq logs and see how he talks to affiliates/potential affiliates , and saw scott slamming them on icq ( not knowing who he is speaking to ). Thus they think he is hruting their rep.. bam your fired , and the rest is history..

                                mind you i dont know any of the details but...
                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                • SureFire
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 4398

                                  #66
                                  ScottMN,

                                  Wishing you the best of luck.

                                  Bogus tickets...MN has some explaining to do

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                                  • toddler
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2002
                                    • 1911

                                    #67
                                    If the company is based in the US(i have no idea if they are or not) they can do anything they want regarding the privacy of your communications on their network and machine(s). Outside the US, see your applicable laws.

                                    I used to read other employee's mail for a living...
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                                    • Just Mike
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2002
                                      • 3726

                                      #68
                                      Sig placement

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                                      • aico
                                        Moo Moo Cow
                                        • Mar 2004
                                        • 14748

                                        #69
                                        Making fake plane tickets is a BIG no-no and you could get them in some serious Federal trouble if that is true.... hope you still got them.

                                        BIG NO-NO....

                                        Fucking HUGE mistake...

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                                        • Kimmykim
                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 16015

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by toddler
                                          If the company is based in the US(i have no idea if they are or not) they can do anything they want regarding the privacy of your communications on their network and machine(s). Outside the US, see your applicable laws.

                                          I used to read other employee's mail for a living...
                                          Yes, indeed, in the US there is an implicit acceptance of corporate monitoring when an employee uses company property...

                                          but that's not my point.

                                          My point is that neither Scott nor MensNiche need to have unnecessary drama on the board or in business.

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                                          • Headless
                                            Registered User
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 26727

                                            #71
                                            sig whoreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                              • Jun 2004
                                              • 28609

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Kimmykim

                                              My point is that neither Scott nor MensNiche need to have unnecessary drama on the board or in business.
                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                              • TheGoldenChild
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2002
                                                • 6940

                                                #73
                                                Scott are you taking kickbacks now???

                                                If so, send all of your affiliates to me
                                                at http://www.joebucks.com/kb
                                                I'll kick you down handsomely
                                                and maybe we both can have a GREAT laugh over the entire experience-

                                                Oh and don't forget the part about me telling you so

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                                                • TheGoldenChild
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 6940

                                                  #74
                                                  Oh and KK while your post was very well thought out, and professional- it doesn't change the fact that Scott was working for ungrateful, little ASSHOLES.

                                                  As I did a year ago-
                                                  I was fortunate enough to cut my losses and go to a better Pill sponsor
                                                  http://www.joebucks.com/kb
                                                  and I am happy to say I got the last laugh, just like I know Scotty will-

                                                  Best of luck Scott- and if you still have my pics form last year,send them over
                                                  You know, the ones that Darren posted on the web of my huge cock?
                                                  :-))
                                                  Forget about all that
                                                  I want to hear more about the fake PLANE TICKET

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                                                  • ScottMN
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                    • 546

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                    So Scott, any recommendations for future sales/affiliate reps that think about putting the name of the company in their screenname?
                                                    HAHA, i knew someone was going to mention that one ;).

                                                    As for screenshots of the tickets, though I like the idea, I'm going to pass on posting them. it would just fan the flames.

                                                    And KB, you had to do the "i told you so" didn't you
                                                    Last edited by ScottMN; 12-13-2005, 05:39 PM.
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                                                    • baddog
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 107089

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by kBizzle
                                                      Scott are you taking kickbacks now???

                                                      If so, send all of your affiliates to me
                                                      at http: //www.joebucks.com/kb
                                                      I'll kick you down handsomely
                                                      and maybe we both can have a GREAT laugh over the entire experience-
                                                      Oh and don't forget the part about me telling you so
                                                      Cockblocker

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                                                      • TheGoldenChild
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2002
                                                        • 6940

                                                        #77
                                                        BTW

                                                        In case you didn't notice-
                                                        I am having fun with this....
                                                        and maybe spamming a little too



                                                        http://www.joebucks.com/kb

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                                                        • Marshal
                                                          Biz Dev and SEO
                                                          • Jun 2005
                                                          • 15224

                                                          #78
                                                          what's going on here?
                                                          ---
                                                          Busy ranking websites on Google...

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                                                          • Aly
                                                            President, ePufferProfits
                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                            • 1881

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by kBizzle

                                                            Oh and don't forget the part about me telling you so

                                                            I was wondering why you weren't here yet! LOL..
                                                            .

                                                            .
                                                            Aly's ICQ: 51504163 . Aly's Email: [email protected]

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                                                            • baddog
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 107089

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by ScottMN
                                                              HAHA, i knew someone was going to mention that one ;).
                                                              So, answer the question


                                                              As for screenshots of the tickets, though I like the idea, I'm going to pass on posting them. it would just fan the flames.
                                                              you say that like it would be a bad thing . . . send to me, and I will do it for you

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                                                              • TheGoldenChild
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2002
                                                                • 6940

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                Sorry Baddog
                                                                I didn't see what you had going on over there
                                                                I was too busy plugging http://www.joebucks.com/kb
                                                                I need to be less self absorbed sometimes- what's wrong with me?

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                                                                • King Adam
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 5408

                                                                  #82
                                                                  I have no respect for MN. For a professional company, they handled pretty much everything wrong. They should be embarrased for they way the dealt with this situation.

                                                                  I will never promote MN.

                                                                  Best wishes Scott.

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                                                                  • TheGoldenChild
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                    • 6940

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Aly
                                                                    I was wondering why you weren't here yet! LOL..
                                                                    Instant karma is more than just a John Lennon song my dear...


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                                                                    • KRL
                                                                      Entrepreneur
                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 31429

                                                                      #84
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                                                                      • lilspup
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                                        • 716

                                                                        #85
                                                                        MN should be ashamed of what they did to you. Best of luck in whatever you do Scott.

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                                                                        • TheGoldenChild
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 6940

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by ScottMN
                                                                          HAHA, i knew someone was going to mention that one ;).

                                                                          As for screenshots of the tickets, though I like the idea, I'm going to pass on posting them. it would just fan the flames.

                                                                          And KB, you had to do the "i told you so" didn't you
                                                                          When you are always right, like I am, I get great satisfaction from hearing it time and time again- it never gets old, just like the sound of my own name LOL!

                                                                          I have had a ton of problems with some clients
                                                                          I voice my opinion and call them dirtbags when I need to-
                                                                          Then I get ridiculed for being a big mouth and not seeing the big picture that the people I am bashing are "great people cause they bought someone a drink in Vegas"
                                                                          blah blah blah-

                                                                          Everyone I have taken issue with or had an issue with- turned out to be scumbags in the eyes of a lot of people 6 mos to a year later....

                                                                          So, am I ahead of the game?
                                                                          Am I the only one who has a bullshit meter that is always 100% correct?

                                                                          Who have I blasted unfairly?

                                                                          AVN?
                                                                          MN?
                                                                          Aly?
                                                                          NATS?
                                                                          Flying Croc and Andy Edmond?
                                                                          Danza?


                                                                          Scott I feel for you because you are a married man with responsibilities-
                                                                          I am a single guy, who was subcontracted- who told them to stick it a year ago:-))
                                                                          Onward and upward my friend
                                                                          and there willalways be room for a guy like you with
                                                                          http://www.joebucks.com/kb
                                                                          What you thought I wouldn't try to spam it again?

                                                                          Last edited by TheGoldenChild; 12-13-2005, 06:00 PM.

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                                                                          • exitmoney
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                            • 143

                                                                            #87
                                                                            I would like to hear what MN has to say to those as well, specially the fake plane ticket and spying on Scott's computer ?

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                                                                            • phonesex
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                              • 3437

                                                                              #88
                                                                              shit happens. See sig and get rich.

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                                                                              • TheLegacy
                                                                                SEO RobertWarrenSEO.com
                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                • 18126

                                                                                #89
                                                                                it is sad when you hear of shit like that and company's act so unprofessionally. In the mainstream world this would be a huge law suit - yet here in the adult world - just another story added to the pile of mistreated sales people - rude companies and ego's

                                                                                a very sad story and I do hope the best for you

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                                                                                • THY
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                  • 351

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Hey Scott!
                                                                                  could you contact me on icq?

                                                                                  just looking for a friendly chat not related to this ;)

                                                                                  thanks.

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                                                                                  • TheGoldenChild
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                    • 6940

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by TheLegacy
                                                                                    it is sad when you hear of shit like that and company's act so unprofessionally. In the mainstream world this would be a huge law suit - yet here in the adult world - just another story added to the pile of mistreated sales people - rude companies and ego's

                                                                                    a very sad story and I do hope the best for you
                                                                                    I think I need to go back to mainstream and find some more morons like MN to sue-
                                                                                    They are out there too-

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                                                                                    • Shoehorn!
                                                                                      Die With Your Boots On
                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                      • 22872

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by ScottMN
                                                                                      I was sent on the plane with a bogus plane ticket, courtesy of MensNiche. Yes, they actually sent me to the airport with a fake plane ticket.
                                                                                      Wow, that is seriously fucking classless.

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                                                                                      • sextoyking
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                                        • 6034

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        KB,

                                                                                        I am not here to defend Mens Niche but don't come off like they screwed you and you worked there for along time, let's get real here people.

                                                                                        1. As I said in the other thread from a couple of days ago - I would have never wrote an email like that for the public viewing, I think Darren and crew see that mistake now.

                                                                                        2. I like Scott, we have never had any problems.

                                                                                        3. I like Darren and his crew at mens niche, As I said before we have ever had an issue or problem with them and we do Tons of business every day with MN.

                                                                                        I didn't really want to post on this thread as I don't want to get in the middle and frankly it's none of my business.

                                                                                        I do belive that Mens niche runs a great operation and takes care of there affiliates almost 24/7. They have always been been very professional with us and I belive there probably #1 or #2 in this industry - of the products they sell.

                                                                                        So anyways - I go with what KK said - do we all need to air our dirty laundry on the boards?

                                                                                        I hope Scott and MN can work through these problems - but it's there biz and not ours.

                                                                                        Peace

                                                                                        Todd
                                                                                        ICQ: 52344098
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                                                                                        • Greg MissionD
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Apr 2005
                                                                                          • 4866

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          How does a fake plane ticket work then, would like to see that,
                                                                                          ICQ:119936

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                                                                                          • Fetish
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                                                            • 823

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Blah blah blah - he got fired at that is that - adios

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                                                                                            • J$tyle$
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 11500

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by kBizzle
                                                                                              Sorry Baddog
                                                                                              I didn't see what you had going on over there
                                                                                              I was too busy plugging http://www.joebucks.com/kb
                                                                                              I need to be less self absorbed sometimes- what's wrong with me?

                                                                                              When are you going to learn how to post a link that is CLICKABLE?

                                                                                              Last edited by J$tyle$; 12-13-2005, 07:18 PM.

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                                                                                              • CherryLipsRosa
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                • 3603

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                That is one fucked up situation. I am sure it sucks now but soon enough you will look back and laugh about it . Just be true to yourself and things will turn out ok.
                                                                                                Good luck
                                                                                                Rosalia M.
                                                                                                ICQ.12150439
                                                                                                Skype. cherrylipsrosa

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                                                                                                • ronaldo
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 5475

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by ScottMN
                                                                                                  However, the only people I didn?t tell the whole truth to were him and those on his side. Why would I do this? I didn?t agree with the way the operation was run or decisions made. But I was getting paid to do a job for MN. And if I had breathed a word of my feelings to him, I?m sure these would have been the last words I said as a Mensniche employee. We?ve all been in this situation and I?d have been an idiot to tell him how I felt.
                                                                                                  I've known Darren and Andy for a long time and have never had any problems with them at all. That being said, I also never worked for them.

                                                                                                  I can assure you though, that I would NEVER work for a company where I wasn't able to offer constructive criticism, especially if company decisions could potentially affect my income. If what you say is true, it's indicative of a horrible management team and I would have been LONG gone.

                                                                                                  Besides listening to their employees opinions (not necessarily implementing, but certainly listening) a good management team accepts 100% of the responsibility when one of their employees fucks up...and then deals with it internally. They also pass all of the credit ON to their employees for every success...then privately, pat each other on the back and reap the rewards and benefits.



                                                                                                  edit-A BAD management team btw blames everyone but themselves when things fail and take ALL the credit when things go great.
                                                                                                  Last edited by ronaldo; 12-13-2005, 07:49 PM.

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                                                                                                  • sfera
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Aug 2005
                                                                                                    • 8597

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    he was stealing the porno tapes...lol, idk

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                                                                                                    • Baker Rd
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                                                      • 647

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Steve
                                                                                                      you were unhappy where you worked - now you dont work there anymore
                                                                                                      sounds like things worked out
                                                                                                      pretty much sums it up...

                                                                                                      from the sound of it, that moron Darren is driving the company into the ground anyways. maybe this was a good time to get out
                                                                                                      money talks and bullshit walks.

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