Best hardcore/metal album?

Ryker's - Payback Time (hardcore, not metal)

Deftones is one of my favs. For a little harder rock, look into Dead Horse, Hatebreed or any D.R.I. (Dirty Rottem Imbeciles)

FYI D.R.I. is on I-Tunes as well. Been a fan of theirs since the 80's. They kick ass if you have never heard of em.

Don't lump deftones in here please

is Linkin Park "hardcore"?

I was going to recommend Slayer's God Hates Us All

What's wrong with Deftones? I love The Deftones. Have since long before they were "cool" or had a label. What type of music are they? I am to the age now where I don't really listen to any particular type, I just listen to what I like. I'm just listening to a little "heavier" stuff this week. Seems to be motivating me. Next week for all I know it could be Harry Connick Jr. or Sinatra or Stravinsky...

Do Deftones rank in as "heavier"?

ewwww... I am going to shower now.

Check out M.O.D. too if you want to listen to some seriously hysterical and non politically correct metal.

Agnostic Front- Victim in Pain
Cro-Mags - Age of Quarrel
Sick Of It All - Blood, Sweat & No Tears
Blood for Blood - any of them

Did I date myself?

Ok, how about Veitnom, Madball and Terror.

No dude I love the deftones, and I think they write really great songs. As for the other bands mentioned in the thread..ehhhhhh...not so much

The Cro-Mags gave ya away man

Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power

Then you gotta love Gang Green.

check out Sworn Enemy out of NYC.

Great HC band.

metallica 91

Norwegians know this shit: Enslaved, Burzum, Mayhem, Immortal and Emperor

Metalica.
Ride the lightning

Pulled up a little Exploited this weekend too. Good shit.

Go with Brent on this one.

I forgot about them.

NYC Kings of Thugcore.

I thought I was the only one who heard of Dead Horse. Check out Peaceful Death and Pretty Flowers. It's fucking timelesss, lol.
How about some Anthrax or Overkill?

Nordic Thunder?


Hahaha, just kidding, I'm not into that.

Some Iced Earth maybe? hmmm...

Goblin Cock
Bagged and Boarded
[Absolutely Kosher; 2005]
Rating: 7.3





Way back on Heavy Vegetable's second astonishing album, Frisbie, Rob Crow(lately of Pinback, for the most part) defended his distaste for the radio by listing stuff they never played on it: Slint, Sentridoh, Zappa, Beefheart, Can, The Residents, VU. See any metal in that list? Neither do I. Was Rob Crow managing to hear some metal anyhow? You bet your ass. Is Goblin Cock as "joke-metal" as it sounds like it should be? Just about. Its chugging, Tolkien-core centerpiece is an ode to "Kegrah the Dragon Killer". Plus the liner notes include lyrics written in runes.

Goblin Cock never quite goes Spinal Tap, though; this is by no means your simple "Metal is pretty funny" put-down record. There was always a seriousness of chops and a whiff of that gloriously bloated prog- and/or death-metal surrounding 90s-Crow projects Heavy Vegetable and Thingy, and Bagged and Boarded is the noxious encroaching cloud that whiff's blossomed into over the years. If faux-classical acoustic guitar and synth on "Hissy (Intro)" is the go-nowhere warmup to some magnum opus, then "Stumped" (like the bulk of Bagged and Boarded) must be Really Heavy Vegetable, with Crow's practiced nasal yelp thinly breaking through the band's mutant-Sabbath dirge. Speaking of twisted Black Sabbath descendants, the Queens of the Stone Age quotient's equally high on "Childproof"; it's got excruciating old sex-ed film reel samples that reaffirm the "cock" theme with 50s Dad-to-son explanations of the old, shall we say, equipment and what sometimes comes out of it while male teens dream, recalling a certain porn interlude on Dr. Octagon's Dr. Octagonecologyst. "Gee, our bodies are complicated, aren't they Dad?" It's hard not to laugh and cringe simultaneously.

Great Uncle GWAR would be so proud. Lord Phallus, Bane Ass-Pounder, King Sith, Braindeath, and keyboardist Loki Sinjuggler drop that imaginary line between humor and horror down front and center, forcing listeners to straddle it with them. On "Revenge of Snufalufagus", "Sesame Street'"s gentle Snufalufagus directs his murderous, vengeful bloodlust toward Mr. Hooper and/or Big Bird. "The Werewomb"-- Cannibal Corpse outtake though that may sound-- is about the closest the record comes to unearthing a nugget of vintage mid-90s Crow. "Winkey Dinky Donkey" (not a Raffi cover, amazingly) might hold that same distinction but for its opening minute of double-tracked vocals and riffs that, melodically, live right next door to Metallica's ...And Justice For All.

What I can't do is honestly recommend any of this to your strict Pinbackers or serious metalheads in want of some inroad into either indie or Rob Crow's byzantine bandscape. The somewhat brittle production, dearth of any blast beat/guitar screed overkill, and lax musicianship will offend a good deal of those hardened listener's ears even if Goblin Cock's upfront skewering of metal's silliest conventions fails to. As comic book collectors will recognize the moment they read the album title, a sense of humor going in is utterly, 100% required.

One glance at the cover sears this image into your retina: Goblin Cock as iconic heavy metal D&D bad guy's purply veined phallus. The band's name is also a sly pun on the performance of enthusiastic fellatio. Still, it's just as funny to picture Goblin Cock as the biggest, meanest, ugliest armored black rooster in the history of Things Frank Frazetta Never Got Around to Painting, and a leather-clad Rob Crow strumming distorted power chords to the rhythmic fall of his steed's ghastly red talons.

Never really listened to em, but if they are anything like D.R.I. I am sure I would. Will have to check em out

Now I am sitting here remembering my childhood and the music I used to listen, and sitting here jamming to D.R.I. - Four of a Kind.

I remember back in they day listening to bands like. Misfits / Danzig, Accept, Helix, Slayer, Dio, Halloween, Ratt, D.R.I., M.O.D/S.O.D. and a host of others.

I like newer metal too, but I like a ton of different music from Steve Miller to Slayer. It's all what moves me at the time. Deftones are probably one of my favorite all time bands and I would consider them metal, at the same time I think Linkin Park is a fantastic band as well.

Tons of good artists out there, but my favorites go back to my childhood.

Back to D.R.I. - Think for yourself

Andy

Voivod- Dimensions Hatross

Blood For Blood

But I'm more of an old school Metallica, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Queensryche, Dream Theater girl.

I have not heard of many people who have heard of Dead Horse. Their band is just awesome, I remember hearing them when I was in a metal band back in the early 90's called (D.I.E. - Death is Eternal). Some of the guys in the band told me about em and I have liked em ever since. Peaceful Death and Pretty Flowers I have here on MP3.

I also remember bands like Skankin Pickle which were just awesome to listen to back in the day.

Killswitch Engage if you're into the new metalcore scene [Self Titled is the more hardcore, then its crosses over with AOJB, then TEoH is more melodic metal]
Hatebreed - Perserverance, Napalm Death - Harmony Corruption, Marduk - Heaven Shall Burn... When we are gathered, OTEP - Sevas Tra [has a few aggro songs.. rest is shit]

Rock on ^^

The best heavy metal album on planet earth is "Slayer - Show No Mercy". It is even better than "Metallica - Kill em' all", which comes in close second.

I've really been into Children of Bodom lately. And of course, Lamb of God, though my death metal guitarist brother tells me they have "sold out", haha.

I've found that an awesome way to find new music is to search MySpace. Find a band you like and search through their friends list, you'll find tons of similar stuff, primarily smaller bands that could always use support.

Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast

Yep, that album is definitely on my top 10 list of best heavy metal albums ever.

For those of you interested in a little Dead Horse. Here is one of their songs.

http://www.stressmedia.com/music/02%20Turn.mp3

Funny ass lyrics ... M.O.D. You're Beat

You're Beat
Start up the car
You ain't going very far
Stick the rubber hose on the exhaust

Breathe that fresh air
It'll take away your cares
You're beat the game is over
And you've lost

Y.B........
You're beat
Before you start
You cry defeat

Sitting in the bathroom
With the razor at your wrist
You mom and dad don't like
The dudes you're hanging with
They say that you're a loser
A disgrace to human kind
If I were you I'd end it all
Before I lost my mind

Y.B......
You're beat
Before you start
You cry defeat

Ministry NWO or FilthPig

One hell of a live band, I think I saw them 5 times or so

I watched a story about Metal the other day and though I do like it the bands I prefer to listen to are considered the "New Metal" starting with bands like System of A Down and Deftones started this, maybe one of the reasons why Maxy stated that....

my list

system of a down
clutch
seether
SlipKnot

just to name a few but Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast is right up there with Black Sabbath

Not really hardcore though they can get pretty heavy... I would say System of a Down has some killer albums. Pantera's Vulgar Display of Power STILL kicks ass!!

Hey anyone here ever listen to the old Death Angel then they became "DA" because they didn't think they were heavy enough to be called Death Angel anymore. Talented band.

Never listened to them but did listen to Morbid Angel from time to time just to piss of my mom.

Every Time I die
As I Lie Dying
Killswitch Engage
Ringworm
Chimaira

Take your pic bro, they all kick.

Agonostic Front.....nice one
killer album I'm gonna brush the dust off the old casettes tonight i think

Converge - Petitioning the Empty Sky

Saddest Day is one of the best hardcore songs out there.

Forget Death Angel. Dark Angel is better in my opinion. Dark Angel - Time Does Not Heal kicks ass.

"fell in Love with a Girl Named Spike"

Slayer are great...especially live. But I'd have to say Maiden...they are my all time favourite. I'd say Slayer are more hardcore though..

Hardcore you got
Crumbsuckers - Beast on My Back
Cro Mags - Age of Quarrel
Any Agnostic Front Album
Biohazard Back when Evan was one of us
Leeway - Born to Expire
SOD - Storm Troopers of Death
Basically any oldskool NYC Hardcore

Metal

Slayer, Slayer and Fucking Slayer you cant ever go wrong with anything SLAYER!!!!!
Suicidal Tendencies - Join the Army
Overkill - Years of Decay or Taking Over
Motorhead well anything from Lemmy the God is good
Anthrax - Spreading the Disease
Anything Venom, Anything Metallica when Cliff was alive, .........

I can keep going on and on and on and now i have shown my age

Hardcore: I would say Terror or Throwdown....

Unearth, and Darkest Hour for Metal core....

Darkest Hour

Throwdown


they both kickass