$35 per signup programs are DOOMED!!!!

**xclusive** · 11-19-2004, 03:23 AM

There is already a way around this...

**blackmonsters** · 11-19-2004, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by xclusive
There is already a way around this...

Yeah, and getting around the blocker only pissess the surfer off more and they rfuse to signup.

They already getting enough shit for free so why pay some asshole site more money?

**Theo** · 11-19-2004, 03:36 AM

no program is doomed, they'll just adjust the # of sales they credit to their affiliates.

**chupachups** · 11-19-2004, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
adjust

Lol

**bigdog** · 11-19-2004, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
no program is doomed, they'll just adjust the # of sales they credit to their affiliates.

man you must have really been getting shaved hard, or so the backend of some affilate programs recently

**jollyperv** · 11-19-2004, 03:55 AM

Must be one of the factors affecting my ARS sales for November. 1:300 steady since june, then all of the sudden, 1:1,500 for the whole month of November. And I thought they were supposed to be stand up guys...

**GatorB** · 11-19-2004, 04:01 AM

Originally posted by jollyperv
Must be one of the factors affecting my ARS sales for November. 1:300 steady since june, then all of the sudden, 1:1,500 for the whole month of November.

It's a promo month.

**Dalai lama** · 11-19-2004, 04:04 AM

nothing to worry about

**blackmonsters** · 11-19-2004, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by jollyperv
Must be one of the factors affecting my ARS sales for November. 1:300 steady since june, then all of the sudden, 1:1,500 for the whole month of November. And I thought they were supposed to be stand up guys...

Yeah, they stand up while they shave your ass.

**Theo** · 11-19-2004, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by bigdog
man you must have really been getting shaved hard, or so the backend of some affilate programs recently

Nothing changed, but I was missing a big part of reality like most. My stats had always good ratios (for the year i have some 18 sponsors below 1:200 and some of them are below 1:100) and that was giving me a false impression that everything is ok at least with my joins.

When you see the numbers in detail it's almost to impossible for a paysite owner to payout $35/trial; for every trial independent traffic quality. Even $25/trial is huge achievement. I can see some getting away from these limits due to their billing practises, but these are very few exceptions.

There are PPS owners doing honest attempts to maximize the earnings per trial so you'll get closer earnings to what they claim to pay, but the majority don't care. Did you ever wonder how a PPS sponsor can payout you $35-40/trial in a reality paysite he has to do a single update for 75 days? hah

The rules of the game are different. In the past webmasters were told to have a look at the members area of the revshares they promote. They'll better do the same with PPS programs.

**Furious_Male** · 11-19-2004, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters
Yeah, and getting around the blocker only pissess the surfer off more and they rfuse to signup.

They already getting enough shit for free so why pay some asshole site more money?

Keep in mind the blocker is on by default. I think the key will be to use pop ups in moderation and they will still be profitable to a program. Of course many are abusing the fuck out of the work arounds already.

**Manowar** · 11-19-2004, 04:27 PM

i doubt it , see sig

**detoxed** · 11-19-2004, 05:52 PM

Well then try AAC, $40 a sale and I think they even have a popup. Programs DONT need them to pay per sale.

http://www.myaacstats.com/

**Nicky** · 11-19-2004, 05:59 PM

well, I just use the $30 no console tour instead

**Doctor Dre** · 11-19-2004, 06:00 PM

You are soooooooooooooo fucking late

**esnem** · 11-19-2004, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters
Windows service pack 2 comes with a popup blocker so these programs who base their payout on converting from exit sponsors are going to have to shave you harder to make up for all the blocked popups which means their links will eventually get dropped.

But, good. I've always felt that these type of programs were shitty anyway. I hate sending traffic to a sponsor that fucks the surfer up so bad that they don't want to click my other ads.

I think that when I send FREE traffic to a sponsor they should accept that as enough and not popup a bunch of stuff that I cannot profit from. It's a sleezy way of doing biz so the death of this shit is welcomed by me.

would I be right if i made the assumption that your post count is more than your daily unique count?

**detoxed** · 11-19-2004, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by esnem
would I be right if i made the assumption that your post count is more than your daily unique count?

He called Donald Trump racist because he doesnt like muggers. I'd guess his age is higher than his IQ.

**PMdave** · 11-19-2004, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by jollyperv
Must be one of the factors affecting my ARS sales for November. 1:300 steady since june, then all of the sudden, 1:1,500 for the whole month of November. And I thought they were supposed to be stand up guys...

I'm pretty damn sure they aren't shaving my account

**pornguy** · 11-19-2004, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
no program is doomed, they'll just adjust the # of sales they credit to their affiliates.

I think I saw that definition nex to the word SHAVING in the dictionary

**bigdog** · 11-19-2004, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Nothing changed, but I was missing a big part of reality like most. My stats had always good ratios (for the year i have some 18 sponsors below 1:200 and some of them are below 1:100) and that was giving me a false impression that everything is ok at least with my joins.

When you see the numbers in detail it's almost to impossible for a paysite owner to payout $35/trial; for every trial independent traffic quality. Even $25/trial is huge achievement. I can see some getting away from these limits due to their billing practises, but these are very few exceptions.

There are PPS owners doing honest attempts to maximize the earnings per trial so you'll get closer earnings to what they claim to pay, but the majority don't care. Did you ever wonder how a PPS sponsor can payout you $35-40/trial in a reality paysite he has to do a single update for 75 days? hah

The rules of the game are different. In the past webmasters were told to have a look at the members area of the revshares they promote. They'll better do the same with PPS programs.

i guess lens only has the real honest program out there since he is the only one using nats and paying out $35 a join

**TheSenator** · 11-19-2004, 07:37 PM

Make sure they use NATS and you won't get shaved.....

They are based out of Jersey!

**shiZZn** · 11-19-2004, 07:42 PM

There ARE already popup window codes that get around the popup-blocker in XP SP2

$35 per signup programs are DOOMED!!!!

$35 per signup programs are DOOMED!!!!

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