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  • esnem
    #101
    Originally posted by project_naughty
    Evolution is accepted as fact to the same degree as is gravity by modern science, so call it what you will.

    The religious freaks do not have a leg to stand on
    Evolution isn't fact, its a theory, therefore not proven.

    There is room for debate in this thread regarding evolution, not gravity.

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      • rett11
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        • Jan 2003
        • 397
        #102
        that last post was b.s. sorry. one cell organism in water...fish. one cell organism on rock...climbing lizard. etc. etc. bottom line is there is NO evidence for creationism...and SOME eveidence for evolution. plus...taking over the world and breeding dogs is FORCED evolution...we're talking natural evolution. supposing that us taking over the world has something to do with this tells me you are religious...it's the only way forced evolution makes sense.
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          • Drake
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            • Mar 2003
            • 12508
            #103
            Originally posted by esnem
            Evolution isn't fact, its a theory, therefore not proven.

            There is room for debate in this thread regarding evolution, not gravity.
            That's correct.

            Evolution thus far relies on a myriad of aggregate evidence that will support it if one interprets that evidence as such and assumes that the many assumptions underlying that evidence is correct (for instance that the world as it exists today existed in relatively similar way millions of years ago seeing that it takes such an environment to support fragile life).

            Many will say that the overwhelming evidence supports it. I disagree. I do believe that their is a kernel of evidence that suggests it may be true, but should be demonstrated (if possible).

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              • Probono
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                • Oct 2002
                • 2731
                #104
                This gets tiresome since it is a recurring debate.

                The best evidence for evolution is genome research.

                When I studied embryology years ago we were taught ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny. If you watch the development of any vertibrate embryo you see the common evolution in the state of development.

                Today with genome research they have confirmed common genes among species, with some very minor differences in the genome causing major differences in phenotype (appearence). Man is lot closer to frogs than we would want to admit.

                Does this prove evolution, no but it has more and more evidence behind it. Could there have been some devine intervention, seeding of the planet by aliens who were god like, yes of course. We may never know unless them come back to check on their work.

                I like the Grecoroman concept of the gods procreating with common humans, sounds good to me. Bring back the god of wine.

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                  • Drake
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 12508
                    #105
                    Originally posted by rett11
                    that last post was b.s. sorry. one cell organism in water...fish. one cell organism on rock...climbing lizard. etc. etc. bottom line is there is NO evidence for creationism...and SOME eveidence for evolution. plus...taking over the world and breeding dogs is FORCED evolution...we're talking natural evolution. supposing that us taking over the world has something to do with this tells me you are religious...it's the only way forced evolution makes sense.
                    Breeding dogs as we've seen is not an example of evolution, much less forced evolution. Look, if you started messing around with human genes and implanted them into a woman, you might come out with a child with 3 legs. I wouldn't call that evolution. I would call that a mutant. Similarly I wouldn't call a dog that finds it difficult to breath and can hardly breed on it's own, a natural animal that could or would have evolved. Thus it's not evolution.

                    Taking over the world is not evolution. You missed the point. I gave an example of how their are some out their that will use the theory for their own agenda. People like you claim that those who don't believe in evolution are "religious". Couldn't be further from the truth. I don't need a magical friend in the sky.
                    Last edited by Drake; 11-19-2004, 05:31 PM.

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                      • esnem
                        #106
                        Originally posted by Mike33
                        That's correct.

                        Evolution thus far relies on a myriad of aggregate evidence that will support it if one interprets that evidence as such and assumes that the many assumptions underlying that evidence is correct (for instance that the world as it exists today existed in relatively similar way millions of years ago seeing that it takes such an environment to support fragile life).

                        Many will say that the overwhelming evidence supports it. I disagree. I do believe that their is a kernel of evidence that suggests it may be true, but should be demonstrated (if possible).
                        i haven't stated my opinion one way or the other, i just like watching people yell about what came first the chicken or the egg.

                        i do know however that the theory of evolution is based off scientific fact, whereas creationism is based off of man made documents. Unicorns and leprechauns are also based off of man made documents.

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                          • Drake
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                            • Mar 2003
                            • 12508
                            #107
                            Originally posted by esnem
                            i haven't stated my opinion one way or the other, i just like watching people yell about what came first the chicken or the egg.

                            i do know however that the theory of evolution is based off scientific fact, whereas creationism is based off of man made documents. Unicorns and leprechauns are also based off of man made documents.
                            I agree. The bible is a book of fiction written by men in the dark ages to provide him with comfort by providing explanations of the unknown. It even has a "chosen people". I guess the rest of us just don't cut it to be selected as chosen people. Sucks to be us.

                            Evolution is based on an aggregate of facts, extrapolation, interpretation, and half truths.

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                              • Doctor Dre
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                                • Jan 2001
                                • 51692
                                #108
                                Originally posted by perverted and proud
                                daily reminder: religion is only a fraud.
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                                  • CET
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                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 2754
                                    #109
                                    Evolution is only a theory.
                                    Only desperate creationists say that.
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                                      • esnem
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by Mike33
                                        I agree. The bible is a book of fiction written by men in the dark ages to provide him with comfort by providing explanations of the unknown. It even has a "chosen people". I guess the rest of us just don't cut it to be selected as chosen people. Sucks to be us.

                                        Evolution is based on an aggregate of facts, extrapolation, interpretation, and half truths.
                                        I agree with a lot of what you're saying but there's a lot of historical facts in the bible. Never fails to amaze me that people who've never read it are the first to talk shit on it.
                                        Last edited by Guest; 11-19-2004, 05:59 PM.

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                                          • Probono
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                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 2731
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by esnem
                                            I agree with a lot of what you're saying but there's a lot of historical facts in the bible. Never fails to amaze me that people who've never read it are the first to talk shit on it.
                                            There are more factual errors than facts in the bible. They have been digging up the middle east for a century trying to prove the bible, rather unsuccessfully.

                                            The gospels in the new testament don't even agree with each other and if you add the gospels they left out it become more of a comedy.

                                            The one thing Islam hs going for is its that the Quran is " the world of god" spoken by god to his prophet and there are no conflicts since it says what ever was said last overrides what ever was said first. Makes it easy.

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                                              • esnem
                                                #112
                                                Originally posted by Probono
                                                There are more factual errors than facts in the bible. They have been digging up the middle east for a century trying to prove the bible, rather unsuccessfully.

                                                The gospels in the new testament don't even agree with each other and if you add the gospels they left out it become more of a comedy.

                                                The one thing Islam hs going for is its that the Quran is " the world of god" spoken by god to his prophet and there are no conflicts since it says what ever was said last overrides what ever was said first. Makes it easy.
                                                good point, no doubt HUGE inconsistencies in it...i had to read the quran for a middle eastern studies class once, never got through it all...what i find ironic is how many rednecks will say that the quran is utter garbage, but the bible is the word of god and to be taken literally.

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                                                  • Drake
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                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                    • 12508
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by esnem
                                                    I agree with a lot of what you're saying but there's a lot of historical facts in the bible. Never fails to amaze me that people who've never read it are the first to talk shit on it.
                                                    The problem with 'historical facts' in the bible, if there are any, is that it doesn't make the bible true.

                                                    It's easy to place a fictional character (like Jesus) admidst real historical events and places. Think Forrest Gump.

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                                                      • William-Xfactor
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                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                        • 299
                                                        #114
                                                        Originally posted by OWNED
                                                        Pls provide your clearest example of species to species evolution from your great science books.


                                                        Proof for the non believers

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                                                          • pornguy
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                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 62910
                                                            #115
                                                            that is why they are called THEORIES...
                                                            because neither one has been proven.
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                                                              • pornguy
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                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                • 62910
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by William-Xfactor


                                                                Proof for the non believers
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                                                                  • Joe Citizen
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                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                    • 4552
                                                                    #117
                                                                    Originally posted by pornguy
                                                                    that is why they are called THEORIES...
                                                                    because neither one has been proven.
                                                                    Scientific theories are never proven, they can only be falsified.

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                                                                      • volante
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                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                        • 2940
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Originally posted by esnem
                                                                        i haven't stated my opinion one way or the other, i just like watching people yell about what came first the chicken or the egg.
                                                                        EGG!

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