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11-19-2004, 03:27 AM

Karzai: Don't Spray Our Poppies

A U.N. survey released this week showed Afghanistan this year supplied 87 percent of the world's opium - the raw material for heroin - following record-high cultivation that has skyrocketed since the fall of the Taliban in 2001.

The heroin industry undermines Afghanistan's democracy and puts money into the coffers of terrorists, the U.N. report said, adding that the "fear that Afghanistan might degenerate into a narco-state is slowly becoming a reality."
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11-19-2004, 03:29 AM

The Afghans selling heroin, Bush stealing Oil, everyones happy hehe

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11-19-2004, 03:31 AM

Way to go bush he is such a druggie i'm not surprised...

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11-19-2004, 04:00 AM

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Way to go bush he is such a druggie i'm not surprised...

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11-19-2004, 04:06 AM

Look at Bush's record in putting the US right. Now who thought he would do better in a country on the other side of the world?

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11-19-2004, 04:20 AM

Yeah we should have left the taliban in charge over there to keep opium production down. People who live in a country with other people who would grow opium have no right to self determination and freedom. In fact any country that has a percentage of it's citizens that produce drugs should live under the rule of a tyrannical regime because that might mean less drugs.
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11-19-2004, 04:24 AM

Originally posted by jas1552
Yeah we should have left the taliban in charge over there to keep opium production down. People who live in a country with other people who would grow opium have no right to self determination and freedom. In fact any country that has a percentage of it's citizens that produce drugs should live under the rule of a tyrannical regime because that might mean less drugs.

Are your retarded?

A) how many peole will be killed by herion from Afghanistan? A LOT more than died on 9-11.

B) Did anyone say leave the Taliban in power? Is that our only 2 option. Terroists or herion? Why can't our marines put some caps in some drug loads asses? That's our whole problem with our supposed "war on drugs" we should have invaded Columbia 20 years ago.
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11-19-2004, 04:40 AM

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Are your retarded?

A) how many peole will be killed by herion from Afghanistan? A LOT more than died on 9-11.

B) Did anyone say leave the Taliban in power? Is that our only 2 option. Terroists or herion? Why can't our marines put some caps in some drug loads asses? That's our whole problem with our supposed "war on drugs" we should have invaded Columbia 20 years ago.

The people of Afghanistan have elected a government. Such things are now their responsibility. Those people are extremely poor. Simply destroying their crops without permission from their government and without figuring a way to replace opium with another crop could lead to economic catastrophe and who knows maybe even a civil war, and could undo the progress they have made.

So you want to invade columbia because they produce coca? There are countries all over the world that produce illegal drugs including the USA. Maybe we should invade ourselves first. Then we can work our way around the globe invading countries that produce illegal narcotics one nation at a time.
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11-19-2004, 04:52 AM

What I find as so fucking ironic is we're currently (as I write this) spraying herbicide on coca plants in Columbia to stave off cocaine production, yet we're doing fuck all about heroin in Afghanistan.

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11-19-2004, 04:52 AM

Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but Cheney honestly has provable ties to the heroin industry.

I read an article about it once that was NOT on a conspiracy site but written by a real reporter based on facts.

I'll try to find it.
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11-19-2004, 04:52 AM

How is going after drug king pins that destroy more lives than terrorists a less legtimate goal than the war on terror? If our reasoning for invading Afghanistan and Iraq are vaild then by all means we have a right to invade drug producing countries like Columbia that either refuse or are unable to take care of the problem themselves.
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11-19-2004, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by GatorB
How is going after drug king pins that destroy more lives than terrorists a less legtimate goal than the war on terror? If our reasoning for invading Afghanistan and Iraq are vaild then by all means we have a right to invade drug producing countries like Columbia that either refuse or are unable to take care of the problem themselves.

People choose to do drugs knowing the risks. People do not choose to be suicide bombed in terrorist attacks.
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11-19-2004, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by jas1552
People choose to do drugs knowing the risks. People do not choose to be suicide bombed in terrorist attacks.

So people that killed by people high on drugs driving or robbing places to get money to support thier habbit are shit out of luck? People that get killed in drive bys are shit out of luck?

How is a gang member shooting up a neighborhood different from a terroist? How is a drug king pin bombing some judges and prosecutors in Columbia different from a terroist? Explain that one?

Also you know most of the opium money in Afghanistan is finding it's way back to Al Queda.
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11-19-2004, 05:44 AM

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So people that killed by people high on drugs driving or robbing places to get money to support thier habbit are shit out of luck? People that get killed in drive bys are shit out of luck?

How is a gang member shooting up a neighborhood different from a terroist? How is a drug king pin bombing some judges and prosecutors in Columbia different from a terroist? Explain that one?

Also you know most of the opium money in Afghanistan is finding it's way back to Al Queda.

I didn't say more shouldn't be done. I'm simply saying we can't just decide to spray herbicide all over Afghanistan without permission. They have an elected government. So does Columbia. We help Columbia fight their drug trade at their request and spray coca fields with their permission. The Afghan government claims to be concerned that spraying herbicide would hurt it's citizens physically and cause birth defects. They claim that they want to fight drug production in other ways and make it a top priority. We should respect their opinions and wishes and hold them to their promise to do more to fight drug production, and help them do so however we can. It would be different if Afghanistan were still ruled with an iron fist against their will. Unelected governments have no rights including the right to exist in my opinion.
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11-19-2004, 06:07 AM

Bush the incompetent drug addict
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11-19-2004, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by GatorB
Karzai: Don't Spray Our Poppies

A U.N. survey released this week showed Afghanistan this year supplied 87 percent of the world's opium - the raw material for heroin - following record-high cultivation that has skyrocketed since the fall of the Taliban in 2001.

The heroin industry undermines Afghanistan's democracy and puts money into the coffers of terrorists, the U.N. report said, adding that the "fear that Afghanistan might degenerate into a narco-state is slowly becoming a reality."

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11-19-2004, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by GatorB
we should have invaded Columbia 20 years ago.

Imperialism is a bad move in the long run.

The imperialist invaders eventually become bankrupt and corrupt, and they create fear in other nations, and motivate them to build alliances.

Look for China, Germany and France, plus, possibly Russia, to form an alliance by this time next year.

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11-19-2004, 08:05 AM

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Look for China, Germany and France, plus, possibly Russia, to form an alliance by this time next year.

I think you're buying too much afghan heroin. That is just a silly comment. Every nation fears the US too much to openly oppose them and especially create an alliance against them.
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11-19-2004, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by Paul Waters
Imperialism is a bad move in the long run.

The imperialist invaders eventually become bankrupt and corrupt, and they create fear in other nations, and motivate them to build alliances.

Look for China, Germany and France, plus, possibly Russia, to form an alliance by this time next year.

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