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ePassporte Alert: account ID flavinho78 is trying to hijack affiliate payments

11-16-2004, 08:44 AM

ePassporte ID flavinho78 is trying to hijack webmaster payments to his ID.

The last time he tried this, he used [email protected].

All other sponsors please take note to make sure this guy isn't trying to steal from one of your webmasters.
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11-16-2004, 09:19 AM

guido??? That must be Juicy!!!

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better e-mail epassporte about it too

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11-16-2004, 09:24 AM

That means he is someone that watches GFY
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11-16-2004, 09:27 AM

He is brazilian probably.
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11-16-2004, 09:30 AM

guido lol

someone probably reading gfy
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11-16-2004, 09:43 AM

I had the EXACT same problem with this fucker before. I complained many times to epassporte, finally have to complain through a sponsor that uses them before they did anything..

It's a fucking shame, I wonder how much money he's jacked and epassporte actually kept.

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11-16-2004, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by MikeB_CE
ePassporte ID flavinho78 is trying to hijack webmaster payments to his ID.

lol, how does he do it?

I don't use ICQ anymore.
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11-16-2004, 09:49 AM

probably by emailing programs and asking them to change the payout info of some account.
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11-16-2004, 09:50 AM

Bump for Mikey .. thanks for the heads up!
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11-16-2004, 09:51 AM

I just got an email from the guy again asking to get payouts on my program changed to another person, and even asking other programs to change my payout to his epassporte.

Epassporte! Nuke this guys account NOW!

I reported this account to epassporte months ago.

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11-16-2004, 10:30 AM

thx mike

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11-16-2004, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by evilshaun
I had the EXACT same problem with this fucker before. I complained many times to epassporte, finally have to complain through a sponsor that uses them before they did anything..

It's a fucking shame, I wonder how much money he's jacked and epassporte actually kept.

i would hope epassporte would just reverse payments, and i would also think , this is a case for the po-po

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11-16-2004, 10:41 AM

he did the same thjing with TCG

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=5799127

and I posted there with no response:

Originally posted by JaceXXX
my question is, how many programs let someone switch their payment method simply by an email?

that is what worries me the most about this...

no program should ever let someone change ANYTHING without making a secure request from the affiliates members area...and if you don't have a secure form within the members area for affiliates, then you're doing something wrong...get it now!
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11-16-2004, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by evilshaun
I just got an email from the guy again asking to get payouts on my program changed to another person, and even asking other programs to change my payout to his epassporte.

Epassporte! Nuke this guys account NOW!

I reported this account to epassporte months ago.

what the fuck ?

glad I don't use epassporte you reported him months ago, fuck epassporte

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11-16-2004, 10:42 AM

that guy must be visitng GFY for some time

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11-16-2004, 11:19 AM

JaceXXX is right.

Changing payment information is something that should be taken *very* seriously. Confirming your affiliates identity is a no-brainer when making changes of any kind.

And to reiterate what I posted before...
ePassporte, just as with PayPal, allows you to move money to someone with simply a username (or with PayPal, an email address). This is why it is important to know your affiliates. Just as Visa has the "know your customer" rule, you should know your affiliates.

Accounts flavinho78 and guido25 were blocked on July 12th. Since that time, it has been impossible to send money to either account. Try it yourself and you'll get a message that says " The account you are trying to transfer funds to is currently unavailable. Please try your transfer again later. Thank you."

What makes me curious is why this issue is coming up in November when the accounts were blocked in July.

Each sponsor is responsible for knowing who they are doing business with. In a case such as the one above, the fraudster pulls the money out of the account immediately so there is no chance for reversal of the transaction.

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11-16-2004, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Rand
JaceXXX is right.

Changing payment information is something that should be taken *very* seriously. Confirming your affiliates identity is a no-brainer when making changes of any kind.

And to reiterate what I posted before...
ePassporte, just as with PayPal, allows you to move money to someone with simply a username (or with PayPal, an email address). This is why it is important to know your affiliates. Just as Visa has the "know your customer" rule, you should know your affiliates.

Accounts flavinho78 and guido25 were blocked on July 12th. Since that time, it has been impossible to send money to either account. Try it yourself and you'll get a message that says " The account you are trying to transfer funds to is currently unavailable. Please try your transfer again later. Thank you."

What makes me curious is why this issue is coming up in November when the accounts were blocked in July.

Each sponsor is responsible for knowing who they are doing business with. In a case such as the one above, the fraudster pulls the money out of the account immediately so there is no chance for reversal of the transaction.

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11-16-2004, 11:27 AM

And for the record, another account tyring this scheme which was also blocked was "beta2004".

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11-16-2004, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by Rand

What makes me curious is why this issue is coming up in November when the accounts were blocked in July.
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I would imagine that ce got an email about why someone had not recieved a check in months, and ce checked into it and noticed it was set to payout by epassporte and the name was not the users epassporte account..

Just a guess though..

I'm wondering why epassporte has not simply called the police on this matter.. He cant get the cash OUT of his account without being verified by epassporte , so you should have the theftee's address and contact info..

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11-16-2004, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by jimmyf
I is very very sorry

Apology accepted.

If eP had not blocked the account, however, your comments would be understandable.

Now, let's get you signed up with an eP account.

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11-16-2004, 11:33 AM

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11-16-2004, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Rand
JaceXXX is right.

Changing payment information is something that should be taken *very* seriously. Confirming your affiliates identity is a no-brainer when making changes of any kind.

And to reiterate what I posted before...
ePassporte, just as with PayPal, allows you to move money to someone with simply a username (or with PayPal, an email address). This is why it is important to know your affiliates. Just as Visa has the "know your customer" rule, you should know your affiliates.

Accounts flavinho78 and guido25 were blocked on July 12th. Since that time, it has been impossible to send money to either account. Try it yourself and you'll get a message that says " The account you are trying to transfer funds to is currently unavailable. Please try your transfer again later. Thank you."

What makes me curious is why this issue is coming up in November when the accounts were blocked in July.

Each sponsor is responsible for knowing who they are doing business with. In a case such as the one above, the fraudster pulls the money out of the account immediately so there is no chance for reversal of the transaction.

It is coming up now because he is still trying to change webmaster account payments over to his epassporte account.

Have you notified him that his accounts were closed? Apparently he seems to think they are still open.
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11-16-2004, 12:45 PM

Ok everyone....this account has been deactivated by Epassporte!!!

Thank you MikeB for the heads up...this is how we should all work together!!!

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11-16-2004, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
Ok everyone....this account has been deactivated by Epassporte!!!

Thank you MikeB for the heads up...this is how we should all work together!!!

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11-16-2004, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by MikeB_CE
It is coming up now because he is still trying to change webmaster account payments over to his epassporte account.

Have you notified him that his accounts were closed? Apparently he seems to think they are still open.

When an account is suspended or blocked, the ePassporte account holder receives an email to their ePassporte address notifying them of the interruption in service. (A blocked or suspended account cannot do any financial transactions, but can still check their eP email.)

Each of these accounts were notified. But seeing their past behavior of receiving a transfer and pulling the funds out immedialty makes me beleive they *do* know the accounts are suspended. I agree with you it seems that this guy is not aware of it, but I can only chalk that one up to stupidity.

Yes, this guy has been blocked since July. But that doesn't mean he doesn't have other accounts and will try the same scam again and the only way ePassporte is going to know about it is when someone reports him.

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11-16-2004, 12:57 PM

I thought in 2004 all sponsors have reliable webmaster interface to change payment methods. Shame on those who doesnt...
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11-16-2004, 01:03 PM

Rand,

I'm curious to know how much of my payouts have gone into this persons hands. When I contacted Epassporte before, they advised me that they will not discuss payment transfers on these abused accounts.

How are we, as webmasters, going to know if this little fag changed our payout to epassporte, and got funds from us? If you say this guy got money in there, it's most likely from me because he first started with my accounts back in July, the time you mentioned they were closed after we made a stink about it along with some people from TCG.

Was there money left in that account? Can you tell us who sent payments to it, or can you inform them? We have no way of knowing if you simply said no money was sent, or if it was kept or forgot about, or if the webmasters are still trying to pay that account out but believe it's inactive and will work again so they keep trying.

Thanks

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11-16-2004, 01:08 PM

PS, I was hit by this guy at over 10 affiliates.

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11-16-2004, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
Ok everyone....this account has been deactivated by Epassporte!!!

Thank you MikeB for the heads up...this is how we should all work together!!!

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11-16-2004, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Trent Edison
I thought in 2004 all sponsors have reliable webmaster interface to change payment methods. Shame on those who doesnt...

you would fucking think huh? but not one sponsor so far has stepped up in here to address that issue...so instead of hitting the problem at the root, they are just sawing the branches off

makes me weary of a lot of things right now
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11-16-2004, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

I'm wondering why epassporte has not simply called the police on this matter.. He cant get the cash OUT of his account without being verified by epassporte , so you should have the theftee's address and contact info..

epassporte,

Answer this question please. I too would like to know.

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11-16-2004, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by evilshaun
Rand,

I'm curious to know how much of my payouts have gone into this persons hands. When I contacted Epassporte before, they advised me that they will not discuss payment transfers on these abused accounts.

Thanks

ePassporte is obliged to keep transaction data for accounts (other than your own) private.

The only way to find out *if* funds were transferred and if so *how much* would be to ask your sponsor who was the originator of the transaction.

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11-16-2004, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
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I'm wondering why epassporte has not simply called the police on this matter.. He cant get the cash OUT of his account without being verified by epassporte , so you should have the theftee's address and contact info..

ePassporte does work with the authorities to combat fraud when appropriate pursuant to all laws and regulations.

I can't speak more specifically about this case, but in relation to this matter anyone who had their payouts diverted because of this fraudster needs to speak with their sponsor for specifics.

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