I feel like I've been ripped off. [serious drama thread]

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  • xenigo
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 8067

    #1

    I feel like I've been ripped off. [serious drama thread]

    I've tried contacting these people privately and it seems they're unwilling to discuss business now. So I'm forced to this level. I don't take matters such as this lightly.

    I'm a photographer. I make money selling my work. I got an offer from Quashe, David (Krome), and KC with AdultLabel that would allow me to have a paysite under their program, all they needed was the content. The deal was that I would see 20% of sales, in exchange. The site is 18to22boys.com

    That was back around January of 2004. We're now in December of 2005 and I've never seen a dime from this deal.

    They were very helpful when it came to taking the content from me, but now none of them return ICQ's or emails regarding payment. About a year ago, I had David call me and talk to me personally about this issue. He explained that since the site was softcore, he was unable to sell the site with his marketing efforts. He said if it was hardcore, it would sell... and he wanted me to shoot some hardcore content. I happen to run a softcore site myself and know that it sells decently.

    This company has never let me verify sales data with CCBill. That was part of the original agreement. They said they'd get the login info to me, but everytime I've asked for it they avoid the question and tell me not to worry about it because the site isn't selling.

    A company cannot reasonably expect to be able to use a photographers content free of charge. I am not running a charity service. I operate for profit just like anyone else. And besides that, I have models that I've paid a considerable amount of money, and I need to eat and my bills.

    At this point, I feel cheated. I feel abused. I feel ripped off. I honestly feel like I'll need to sue this company if I want to get paid. I'm not asking for much, just $2500 and we'll call it a done deal. I'll consider this a learning experience, and you won't owe me anything more.

    The check can be mailed to:

    Serial Media
    PO Box 864
    Rocklin, CA 95765

    Otherwise, you can expect to recieve a letter from the court stating that you're being sued for this sum by my company. I figured I'd be generous and save you some time and money.
    Last edited by xenigo; 12-06-2005, 03:46 AM.
  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #2


    2nd drama thread already today! That promises a lot!

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    • TheSenator
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Feb 2003
      • 13330

      #3
      I just had some scambled eggs, with sauage and bacon. I also had some Dave's Insanity Sauce.
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      • Theo
        HAL 9000
        • May 2001
        • 34515

        #4
        does it worth the trouble though? this site doesnt seem to get any traffic

        20% of almost nothing is nothing

        http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...22boys.com#top

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        • Vlad
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2002
          • 2864

          #5

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          • Harmon
            ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
            • Mar 2004
            • 20012

            #6
            Did you get a contract or was this all verbal? Sounds kike definite drama... that's for sure
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            • gangbangjoe
              Ronin
              • May 2004
              • 17693

              #7
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              • who
                So Fucking Banned
                • Aug 2003
                • 19593

                #8
                You should have agreed a fee + commissions, that way you'll never do work for nothing incase the site is a flop (like this one)

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                • xenigo
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 8067

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                  does it worth the trouble though? this site doesnt seem to get any traffic

                  20% of almost nothing is nothing

                  http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...22boys.com#top
                  The deal is that they handle the marketing, and I handle the content. Either way, I don't do charity work. I've lived up to my end of the agreement.

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                  • mn
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 1505

                    #10
                    EDIT: I missed another reply....
                    Last edited by mn; 12-06-2005, 04:34 AM.

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                    • Herb Kornfield
                      Is on the 1
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 4996

                      #11
                      There should **ALWAYS ** be a written contract in place between all parties to cover the scope of the project you are both involved in together.

                      If you choose not to have a contract in place that has a specific roles and responsbilities listed there of all parties, be prepared for the worst possible.

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                      • JamesK2
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 6589

                        #12
                        Nice drama.

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                        • Vitasoy
                          GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 58202

                          #13
                          and I was about to head to bed..


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                          • MrVids
                            i am a meat popsicle
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 1070

                            #14
                            well that's gay .......... hahahahhaa, i couldn't resist

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                            • karlm
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 4194

                              #15
                              What if they made fuck all sales?
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                              • NoWhErE
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 10583

                                #16
                                Welcome to the bizz, I've had some people try and cheat me too.

                                Ya gotta learn to cover your back cause this bizz is full of scum suckers.
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                                • FlogTheLog
                                  CuriousToyBoys Little Bitch
                                  • Jun 2005
                                  • 3842

                                  #17
                                  Dam bro thats some fucked up shit... PAY HIM YOU FUCKERS

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                                  • DeanCapture
                                    Haters & Trolls SUCK!
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 9275

                                    #18
                                    Bump for a good man - hope you get this taken care of bro'
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                                    • JD
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                                      • Sep 2003
                                      • 22651

                                      #19
                                      oh snap! Promote CoinsCuties!

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                                      • StudioCash Luke
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                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 446

                                        #20
                                        Look at all the sigwhores coming in

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                                        • Antonio
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 14136

                                          #21
                                          yummy, drama

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                                          • fris
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                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 55705

                                            #22
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                                            • Kimmykim
                                              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                              • Jun 2001
                                              • 16015

                                              #23
                                              This isn't so hard, if they are using your content without a license, I'm sure your attorney can figure out how to handle it very quickly.

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                                              • Roald
                                                SecretFriends.com
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 27910

                                                #24
                                                There is a message on your voicemail to get your ccbill info.

                                                To be honest I was sure David took care of this some while ago. I am sure this will be solved asap.


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                                                • xenigo
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 8067

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                  There is a message on your voicemail to get your ccbill info.

                                                  To be honest I was sure David took care of this some while ago. I am sure this will be solved asap.
                                                  Kevin left me a voicemail.

                                                  If David assured you this had been 'taken care of', then he was mistaken. David did NOT take care of this some while ago, or else I'd be here with a check in my hand. If I didn't feel like I had been taken for a ride, then I wouldn't have created this thread.

                                                  And I most certainly wouldn't have started this thread if I didn't feel something absolutely wrong had taken place. This is one of those moments when something just needed to be said.

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                                                  • Roald
                                                    SecretFriends.com
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 27910

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by xenigo
                                                    Kevin left me a voicemail.

                                                    If David assured you this had been 'taken care of', then he was mistaken. David did NOT take care of this some while ago, or else I'd be here with a check in my hand. If I didn't feel like I had been taken for a ride, then I wouldn't have created this thread.

                                                    And I most certainly wouldn't have started this thread if I didn't feel something absolutely wrong had taken place. This is one of those moments when something just needed to be said.
                                                    I hear you, like I said I was sure it was taken care off. I agree though, this should have been take care of long time ago.


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