GTS, why do you have a 3 months minimum when buying submit passes...

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  • mn
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2001
    • 1505

    #1

    GTS, why do you have a 3 months minimum when buying submit passes...

    ... seriously? I think I have read you have 90% retention somewhere (I might be wrong?), so I can't understand the reason. Whats the reson?
  • FreeHugeMovies
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2001
    • 14141

    #2
    To improve their bottom line of course. It lessons the work load. I think it's smart on their side. I don't think GTS is hurting for selling PAs =]

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    • mn
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2001
      • 1505

      #3
      Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
      To improve their bottom line of course. It lessons the work load. I think it's smart on their side. I don't think GTS is hurting for selling PAs =]
      OK! Thanks for the answer!

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      • kaori
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2005
        • 1569

        #4
        heh, yeah, it's too bad
        I'm moving in a month and a half, and was just looking at buying a few submit passes for the next month
        now I gotta wait about 3 months to make it worth my while..

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        • karlm
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2004
          • 4194

          #5
          Shame as you cant test them just for a month
          ICQ 584665926

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          • BlackCrayon
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jun 2003
            • 19634

            #6
            its smart on their side sure, not good for testing it out tho and they know that.
            you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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            • tranza
              ICQ: 197-556-237
              • Jun 2003
              • 57559

              #7
              Also because traffic may take a while to build up, so if you evaluate for 3 months you get a better idea.

              I'm just a newbie.

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              • 69pornlinks
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2003
                • 5560

                #8
                they same reason some host have you to sign contracts
                It IS what it IS

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                • xclusive
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 35218

                  #9
                  Just smart business they have a uniqe product and they know how to make the most of it

                  I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                  • abshard
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 6524

                    #10
                    You can buy a monthly recurring submit pass's with a credit card. Unless someting changed and they no longer accept credit cards?

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                    • phogirl69
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 3330

                      #11
                      When I bought my passes a while ago it was through myvirtualcard and those are still rebilling from month to month, but I noticed when I try and buy new passes you have to go for at least 3 months or commit to a term. Also the
                      myvirtualcard pages for submitpasses are down for maintenance.

                      I honestly much prefer going month to month....

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                      • Rice_Master
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 1582

                        #12
                        That is probably the main reason why I haven't bought any passes, if they believe in the product they're selling, why the minimum of 3 months? doesn't make sense.
                        Icq: 31706665

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                        • Dirty F
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 59204

                          #13
                          I will pick some up as soon as i can buy them for a month with epass.

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                          • phogirl69
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 3330

                            #14
                            Originally posted by abshard
                            You can buy a monthly recurring submit pass's with a credit card. Unless someting changed and they no longer accept credit cards?
                            No matter if you pay by Epassporte or Merchant Account or wire it says
                            you MUST choose a term either 3 months, 6 months or 12 months. The option to pay for new accounts through myvirtualcard no longer works...

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                            • abshard
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 6524

                              #15
                              Originally posted by phogirl69
                              No matter if you pay by Epassporte or Merchant Account or wire it says
                              you MUST choose a term either 3 months, 6 months or 12 months. The option to pay for new accounts through myvirtualcard no longer works...

                              Ahh i see that now. But to be honest im kinda glad the cc option is no longer working..heres why

                              I have maybe got at most 10% of my submit pass accounts paying with that monthly recurring option and 20% of those orders have been cheaters, and most likely they have used fake/stolen credit cards. I think the cheaters are less likely to use epassporte to buy an account if they lose their money if caught cheating. With the cc option they dont lose anything if they use a fake card.

                              And the cheaters im talking about are the ones that submit a nice clean gallery then after its listed, the first click to the gallery is either a popup hell or fake movie gallery where the surfer is required to d/l a "codec" to view the movie because the video is black and all you hear is the sound which is most likely a dialer. then the second click to the gallery, it returns to a normal gallery.

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                              • wedouglas
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 5921

                                #16
                                Sooner or later it will be 1 month. Then I'll spend a lot more.

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                                • BlackCrayon
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 19634

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by 69pornlinks
                                  they same reason some host have you to sign contracts
                                  are there any hosts who still do that? most places are month to month these days.
                                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                  • Brad Mitchell
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2001
                                    • 9813

                                    #18
                                    I think the easy answer is because they can. Because, really, that attracts more qualified customers and giving excellent support is important to them.

                                    Brad
                                    President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                                    71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                                    • BlackCrayon
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 19634

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
                                      I think the easy answer is because they can. Because, really, that attracts more qualified customers and giving excellent support is important to them.

                                      Brad
                                      it kinda reminds me when networksolutions was the only domain registar, you had no other choice if you wanted a domain. just like you have no other choice if you want to be listed on the sites that sell through them.
                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                      • Brad Mitchell
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2001
                                        • 9813

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                        it kinda reminds me when networksolutions was the only domain registar, you had no other choice if you wanted a domain. just like you have no other choice if you want to be listed on the sites that sell through them.

                                        I wouldn't be that harsh on it. Some of us do some things with our business that are unusual. Like with my hosting company, for example, I actually insist on talking to every client before they become a client. When I used to own SinTalk, I used to pre-screen all of the new affiliates prior to assigning them phone sex lines. Raising the barrier to entry just a little bit means that they don't get so many ass-hats jumbling up their time so they can spend more time with their established customers. Plus, I have to imagine that there is a reasonable argument to be made about the results after comitting to a longer period instead of a shorter one.

                                        Just my

                                        At the end of the day, I just think the folks at GTS are good people

                                        Brad
                                        President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                                        71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                                        • AmateurFlix
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2004
                                          • 7762

                                          #21
                                          probably for the same reason that almost everyone else selling memberships tries to lengthen the time between between rebills... customers will have a chance to cancel something every 30 days or every 90 days, so why give them the first option?

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                                          • UniqueMovies
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 1691

                                            #22
                                            They have a huge monopoly in this part of the business and they are exploiting it. The only way to make things right is more competition.

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                                            • GTS Mark
                                              Vrume Mark
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 20912

                                              #23
                                              Hi guys, the reason we are doing only 3 month memberships is due to the fact we are having issues with our primary merchant account MVC, not because we are trying to make things difficult on you.

                                              I'm sorry for the inconvenience, if anyone wants a one month pass please send me over an e-mail and I will try my best to accomodate you. I like to listen to what my customers want and obviously the one month account is a very popular item.

                                              Thanks,
                                              DH

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                                              • GTS Mark
                                                Vrume Mark
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 20912

                                                #24
                                                Brad, thanks for sticking up for us

                                                DH

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                                                • GTS Mark
                                                  Vrume Mark
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 20912

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by UniqueMovies
                                                  They have a huge monopoly in this part of the business and they are exploiting it. The only way to make things right is more competition.
                                                  Uniquemovies, we are not trying to exploit anything, we're just a company trying to do business and keep our customers happy as best as we can. There are plenty of options out there to buy traffic from different sources and partner accounts.

                                                  I simply don't appreciate this kind of comment.

                                                  DH

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                                                  • Nicky
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                    • 30071

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Franck
                                                    I will pick some up as soon as i can buy them for a month with epass.
                                                    Same here, 3 months is just too long time in this biz

                                                    gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                    • Satisfaction
                                                      WootWootCash.com
                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                      • 10900

                                                      #27
                                                      yeh 3 months is over the top i think..

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