Do gallery submitters make profit these days? lol

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  • UniqueMovies
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2003
    • 1691

    #1

    Do gallery submitters make profit these days? lol

    I looked into buying traffic on GTS and DAMN! its expensive.

    For example: madthumbs.com is $1500 for a 30day guaranteed listing. I would need to make $50/day just to break even let alone a profit.

    The submit passes are not even guaranteed listings and it?s over $700/mth to buy up all the current available passes.

    Are gallery submitters actually turning a decent profit these days? I don?t mind investing into paid/partner accounts but not unless there is profit.
  • Jakke PNG
    ex-TeenGodFather
    • Nov 2001
    • 20306

    #2
    Test one month.. if you don't make profit, write it off as an expense. It's not *that* much.
    ..and I'm off.

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    • Dirty F
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2001
      • 59204

      #3
      There are only a few spots/passes worth the money and you'll get easily burned finding out which ones. The prices are indeed crazy. Hardly any room for experimenting. You really have to know what youre doing.

      Ive heard so stories from people who lost a good chunk of money buying a 1500 or 2000 gallery deal at GTS. Then again there are also people who keep buying them. Its just like adwords i guess. Only a few manage to make profit with it.

      But yeah in general i'd say the prices are simply fucking crazy!

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      • UniqueMovies
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2003
        • 1691

        #4
        Originally posted by TeenGodFather
        Test one month.. if you don't make profit, write it off as an expense. It's not *that* much.
        Thats the thing.. I dont have time to waste.. The only way is buy them all up.. test them all and drop the ones that I don't make profit from.

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        • UniqueMovies
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2003
          • 1691

          #5
          Gallery submitters are definitely getting the shaft these days. Site owners and brokers are the ones making the money and if it keeps going the way it is site owners will be forced to use hosted gals. IMO not many HG out there that impress me.

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          • SomeCreep
            :glugglug
            • Mar 2003
            • 26118

            #6
            Prices for gallery spots and submit passes will continue to rise. This is only the beginning of a new TGP era.

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            • Nylz
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2004
              • 8285

              #7
              There's no money in galleries

              No sig.

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              • UniqueMovies
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2003
                • 1691

                #8
                Originally posted by SomeCreep
                Prices for gallery spots and submit passes will continue to rise. This is only the beginning of a new TGP era.
                Sad indeed.

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                • bigdog
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 6964

                  #9
                  All the good spots have been sold out for a while, all that is left is the stuff no one wants

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                  • DutchTeenCash
                    I like Dutch Girls
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 21684

                    #10
                    theres money just dont go for 2k for a topspot, history teaches you barely break even, small partner niche accounts work and if Im lookin at 25+mpbs galleries used to submit, Im sure theres money

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                    • Dirty F
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 59204

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SomeCreep
                      Prices for gallery spots and submit passes will continue to rise. This is only the beginning of a new TGP era.
                      How can it rise more? People will stop buying.
                      It reached it limit already.

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                      • Nifield
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1345

                        #12
                        Using dreamsubmitter as my submit tool i still make decent money doing galleries.
                        ICQ9635421

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                        • Jarmusch
                           
                          • May 2003
                          • 12479

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nifield
                          Using dreamsubmitter as my submit tool i still make decent money doing galleries.
                          Not that it would have anything to do with wich submitter you use...

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                          • Violetta
                            Affiliate
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 28735

                            #14
                            A year or two ago was much better!
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                            • Sosa
                              In Tushy Land
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 40149

                              #15
                              there is money to be made. Me personally make more off my private partner accounts that I don't have to pay for then the ones I was paying for. I only pay for 1 partner account but that is on a network of sites that I have been paying for for over a year. Always make my money back on new sales and the rebills are good too.

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                              • GTS Mark
                                Vrume Mark
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 20912

                                #16
                                There are people that make fantastic money buying advertising and there are people that simply do not. I wish every single person could make money buying advertising from us but unfortunately that's not realistic.

                                There are alot of people all fighting for the same piece of the pie, just like google adwords we price at what the market is willing to pay. It's simply supply and demand...

                                DH

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                                • wedouglas
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 5921

                                  #17
                                  I make dick from submitting nowadays. I cant reason spending 1500 for 30 thumbs. If I owned the site and got 100% of sales that might be different.

                                  I just dont buy passes. Got a few had shit results. I think the 3 month min on GTS is dumb. It is the leading reason i wont buy more passes.
                                  Last edited by wedouglas; 12-05-2005, 01:01 PM.

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                                  • GTS Mark
                                    Vrume Mark
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 20912

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by wedouglas

                                    I think the 3 month min on GTS is dumb. It is the leading reason i wont buy more passes.
                                    We are trying to change this policy immediately, I don't like the 3 month minimum rule either.

                                    DH

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                                    • wedouglas
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 5921

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                      We are trying to change this policy immediately, I don't like the 3 month minimum rule either.

                                      DH
                                      Awsome. It just makes you feel uncomfortable paying for 3 months worth of submissions when you have never tried the site.

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                                      • shermo

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Nylz
                                        There's no money in galleries

                                        I couldn't agree with you more, my friend.

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                                        • Jarmusch
                                           
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 12479

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Nylz
                                          There's no money in galleries

                                          True, that's why all the big playas are betting on sports these days.

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                                          • kaori
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2005
                                            • 1569

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                            We are trying to change this policy immediately, I don't like the 3 month minimum rule either.

                                            DH
                                            damn you
                                            I wish you had done that 3 weeks ago hahahah.. I wanted to pick up as many as I could for nov-dec...
                                            I'm out of the market until feb now...

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                                            • Kard63
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 8944

                                              #23
                                              I don't see how they make more than $5/h for their time.

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                                              • BlackCrayon
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 19634

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                                There are people that make fantastic money buying advertising and there are people that simply do not. I wish every single person could make money buying advertising from us but unfortunately that's not realistic.

                                                There are alot of people all fighting for the same piece of the pie, just like google adwords we price at what the market is willing to pay. It's simply supply and demand...

                                                DH
                                                i don't really see how selling gallery spots is like adwords. sure, its advertising but a whole different method. people can outbid on the fly where as you set your prices and people have to pay or not have their galleries on a lot of major sites.
                                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                • Nifield
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 1345

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Jarmusch
                                                  Not that it would have anything to do with wich submitter you use...
                                                  has plenty to do with what submitter tool i use, dreamsubmitter has functions that allow me to maximize my profits by using multiple link codes and templates in a single submission. This allows me to cater to a broad range of specifications in turn being listed in more places, and maximizing my payouts with different link codes.
                                                  ICQ9635421

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                                                  • Snake Doctor
                                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                    • 13449

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                    i don't really see how selling gallery spots is like adwords. sure, its advertising but a whole different method. people can outbid on the fly where as you set your prices and people have to pay or not have their galleries on a lot of major sites.
                                                    Yes they set the prices and if a site isn't selling enough spots then obviously they need to lower the prices.
                                                    If a site is sold out and has a very long waiting list then it's time to raise the prices.

                                                    Same concept just doesn't happen as "fast" as with adwords
                                                    sig too big

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