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11-29-2005, 02:03 PM

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11-29-2005, 02:18 PM

yes. i have a question

does anyone besides you have a chance at the top end domains that drop using your program?

want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.
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11-29-2005, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by brand0n

yes. i have a question

does anyone besides you have a chance at the top end domains that drop using your program?

YES - Everyone has their chance! I offer some math as evidence:

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11-29-2005, 02:28 PM

Nice domain xpays!
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11-29-2005, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by brand0n

yes. i have a question

does anyone besides you have a chance at the top end domains that drop using your program?

Would you have paid more at Snapnames for the name than Evan did ?

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11-29-2005, 02:34 PM

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Would you have paid more at Snapnames for the name than Evan did ?

somebody did on pornfinders.com and 8u.net and there were also lots of others today that we did not even participate in. the volume is so high that everyone is in the game.

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11-29-2005, 02:37 PM

we still snag domains off of non-competitive backorder services that never instigate an auction and plenty at auction that have no bids happening. you can't get them all, nobody can obviously no matter what people try.

especially if one is still getting a value here and there in the auctions that run, what is so bad about that? to each their own i guess.

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11-29-2005, 02:38 PM

How bad did you want 8u.net ? Do you know who beat you for it yet ?

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11-29-2005, 02:38 PM

Ah I see you got that through snap Evan.

I was thinking WTF at first as the old register date is still showing

I know on pool and others - when you pick up a drop you get a new register date.

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11-29-2005, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by XPays

we still snag domains off of non-competitive backorder services that never instigate an auction and plenty at auction that have no bids happening. you can't get them all, nobody can obviously no matter what people try.

especially if one is still getting a value here and there in the auctions that run, what is so bad about that? to each their own i guess.

Are you talking to me ? I was replying to Brandon who asked about "top end domains", not the mediocre or less value ones.

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11-29-2005, 02:41 PM

Are you selling the 3 character .coms?

If so how much?

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11-29-2005, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

How bad did you want 8u.net ? Do you know who beat you for it yet ?

no badly enough to bid it up and not badly enough to care who is behind what handle - so my point is that if there is hypothetically a business out there that "8u" matters to and they want to win an auction - then more power to them in a free-market economy. if i snag it through godaddy and get lucky then they have to roll with us to get it. there are numerous reasons domains are of value to different companies- some speculate, some drive traffic, some are protecting themselves from unfair competition, etc..

all webmasters can benefit from jumping into the mix with http://IPalert.com and building value with domains. some of our newbies at ipalert are bragging already on some obscure pickups of domains with traffic. more competition is good with us. i still have not figured out what your overall hatred towards the auction model stems from though. is it that you yourself are getting less domains? more runup's? what's happening from your perspective?

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11-29-2005, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Male

Are you selling the 3 character .coms?

If so how much?

they are a few hundred per - depends which???? lmk or email

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11-29-2005, 02:53 PM

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Ah I see you got that through snap Evan.

I was thinking WTF at first as the old register date is still showing

I know on pool and others - when you pick up a drop you get a new register date.

yep- people should not get the impression that anyone can just jump into a domain auction at snap for example. you have to backorder it first and IF snap gets the domain - then all those who were aware of the pending delete AND submitted initial bids/backorders are allowed to participate in the auction.

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11-29-2005, 02:59 PM

I have done ok getting some goodies at pool.com and a couple from enom.

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11-29-2005, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by XPays

all webmasters can benefit from jumping into the mix with http://IPalert.com and building value with domains. some of our newbies at ipalert are bragging already on some obscure pickups of domains with traffic. more competition is good with us. i still have not figured out what your overall hatred towards the auction model stems from though. is it that you yourself are getting less domains? more runup's? what's happening from your perspective?

Seriously, you should probably chill a bit about all the "hatred" comments. There's no emotion behind my earlier comments in this thread and nothing resembling hatred for an auction model. You're probably reading more into it. I can assure you it doesn't matter to me whether you bought a domain at auction or not, unless I was bidding against you for it and lost. I wasn't.

Fact: You participated in an auction for a domain name.
Fact: Brandon inquired.
Fact: My reply is dead-fucking-on. He had the same chance as you did, if he was willing to pay more for the name than you did.

I used to buy thousands of names. I'm not as competitive with my own members as you are. At http://www.clickmojo.com/ they can find data that is much more useful. I am around on ICQ or Email almost always, answering questions and helping manipulate data into custom formats that most of my users request. I won't over hype it. I don't promise them great names. I try to make sure they know how the game will be played so they're not feeling deceived when they realize the BEST names are almost always going to mean they have to compete for them and be willing to pay more than others are, including you.

If I'm being misleading in what I'm posting in any way, please point it out to me.

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11-29-2005, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by XPays

yep- people should not get the impression that anyone can just jump into a domain auction at snap for example. you have to backorder it first and IF snap gets the domain - then all those who were aware of the pending delete AND submitted initial bids/backorders are allowed to participate in the auction.

This is a good example of where knowledge is important, not just a list. The domain was with Network Solutions. In that case, Snapnames has an exclusive right to it. Anyone backordering with other services for the same name would have been wasting their money doing so, as Snapnames would be the only service grabbing this one.

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11-29-2005, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

Seriously, you should probably chill a bit about all the "hatred" comments. There's no emotion behind my earlier comments in this thread and nothing resembling hatred for an auction model. You're probably reading more into it. I can assure you it doesn't matter to me whether you bought a domain at auction or not, unless I was bidding against you for it and lost. I wasn't.

Fact: You participated in an auction for a domain name.
Fact: Brandon inquired.
Fact: My reply is dead-fucking-on. He had the same chance as you did, if he was willing to pay more for the name than you did.

I used to buy thousands of names. I'm not as competitive with my own members as you are. At http://www.clickmojo.com/ they can find data that is much more useful. I am around on ICQ or Email almost always, answering questions and helping manipulate data into custom formats that most of my users request. I won't over hype it. I don't promise them great names. I try to make sure they know how the game will be played so they're not feeling deceived when they realize the BEST names are almost always going to mean they have to compete for them and be willing to pay more than others are, including you.

If I'm being misleading in what I'm posting in any way, please point it out to me.

now that explains it finally - thank you - this last week was like that movie where tom cruise is questioning jack nicholson and gets the truth out. you have been dancing all around this and i am glad you finally showed your true colors. it does not change anything except now i see your motivations in the light. with all due respect, your assertions that we compete unfairly or that anyone is deceived are unfounded. we give webmasters much more credit for being intelligent than you do with those comments/assumptions. you speak in the first person - but let me assure you that we echo the same best practices and customize data for our customers as well as respecting their privacy. the fact that you are now less competitive is a pretty soft way of saying that you buy domains too.

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11-29-2005, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by sextoyking

I have done ok getting some goodies at pool.com and a couple from enom.

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great example of using backorders and auctions to protect and expand your niches - sextoy domains etc..

what's with the ron domain

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11-29-2005, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by XPays

you have been dancing all around this and i am glad you finally showed your true colors. it does not change anything except now i see your motivations in the light. with all due respect, your assertions that we compete unfairly or that anyone is deceived are unfounded. we give webmasters much more credit for being intelligent than you do with those comments/assumptions. you speak in the first person - but let me assure you that we echo the same best practices and customize data for our customers as well as respecting their privacy. the fact that you are now less competitive is a pretty soft way of saying that you buy domains too.

Put the 420 down bro, you're a little too paranoid. No dancing around anything. If anything, I've been very blunt about it. IPAlert didn't get you the domain name. Snapnames did. I said you compete. I didn't say you compete unfairly.

You mentioned my service in a thread before as if IPAlert was better. It's not. Not by far. It has a long way to go. You're still on the yellow brick road Dorothy. There are 100 more FREE pending delete domain lists that are better than IPAlert is currently.

Why would you take my comments about an Auction model so personally ? You don't run an auction model or backorder service, you just LINK to them. So how does this affect you ?

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11-29-2005, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

This is a good example of where knowledge is important, not just a list. The domain was with Network Solutions. In that case, Snapnames has an exclusive right to it. Anyone backordering with other services for the same name would have been wasting their money doing so, as Snapnames would be the only service grabbing this one.

knowledge can be expanded every day - and that was a simple slip there. our interface and tools and software functionality are super and the bottom-line is that you are playing captain save a webmaster and neglecting to give credit where credit is due and you have not used our service and are a competitor.

we should try to cooperate when possible in the future. i assure you we have some interesting additions to our service that will continue to make it more robust and that the competition will continue to increase in the space.

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11-29-2005, 03:25 PM

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Put the 420 down bro, you're a little too paranoid. No dancing around anything. If anything, I've been very blunt about it. IPAlert didn't get you the domain name. Snapnames did. I said you compete. I didn't say you compete unfairly.

You mentioned my service in a thread before as if IPAlert was better. It's not. Not by far. It has a long way to go. You're still on the yellow brick road Dorothy. There are 100 more FREE pending delete domain lists that are better than IPAlert is currently.

Why would you take my comments about an Auction model so personally ? You don't run an auction model or backorder service, you just LINK to them. So how does this affect you ?

i have never mentioned your service. show me?

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11-29-2005, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by XPays

we should try to cooperate when possible in the future. i assure you we have some interesting additions to our service that will continue to make it more robust and that the competition will continue to increase in the space.

So don't slam my service. I wasn't slamming yours until you started calling me an auction hater, for whatever importance that carries.

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11-29-2005, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

So don't slam my service. I wasn't slamming yours until you started calling me an auction hater, for whatever importance that carries.

I do not recall ever slamming your service. My slams are so few that I usually recollect them.com - please lmk where and when and what was said so we can get on the same page.

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11-29-2005, 03:39 PM

It was in another thread if I recall. I probably took it personal, but you questioned my service and questioned me as-if I couldn't compare unless I owned more domains than you did or the quality of my portfolio, etc. I stand by my lists as one of the best if not the best around for those who know what they're doing. I'm not going to dig for the posts. I've complimented your services, IP Alert especially while giving an honest opinion of PDDW compared to what already exists. I gave you credit for it anyway, and suggested that I'm sure you would continue to improve it until it was a top service.

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11-29-2005, 03:48 PM

so what do you think is a ballpark flip value on romancer.com ?

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11-29-2005, 04:06 PM

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so what do you think is a ballpark flip value on romancer.com ?

I don't like to appraise the value of a domain. I'm not certain I'd accurately reflect it's value. It has poor overture results, nothing exact. Not all the major 6 TLDs are taken. It is a dictionary word. It'll have decent brandability. If I were to put a value on romancer.com, I'll ballpark it at $300 - $3,000. How close did you want it ? Forgive me if I've undershot.

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11-29-2005, 04:16 PM

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I don't like to appraise the value of a domain. I'm not certain I'd accurately reflect it's value. It has poor overture results, nothing exact. Not all the major 6 TLDs are taken. It is a dictionary word. It'll have decent brandability. If I were to put a value on romancer.com, I'll ballpark it at $300 - $3,000. How close did you want it ? Forgive me if I've undershot.

was just curious - i agree on the range although i think up to $5k is possible.

feel free to edit your post to reflect $5,000 on the upper range

i appreciate your bluntness btw even if we disagree at times.

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11-29-2005, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by XPays

was just curious - i agree on the range although i think up to $5k is possible.

feel free to edit your post to reflect $5,000 on the upper range

i appreciate your bluntness btw even if we disagree at times.

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11-29-2005, 04:26 PM

$200 =]

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11-29-2005, 04:36 PM

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$200 =]

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11-29-2005, 05:53 PM

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nice domain BTW

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11-30-2005, 11:26 AM

Romancer.com going once....

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11-30-2005, 11:43 AM

Interesting. Nice domain.

Haven't had a chance to look at your service, will check it out later.

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11-30-2005, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by XPays

great example of using backorders and auctions to protect and expand your niches - sextoy domains etc..

what's with the ron domain

Yep, that is a few of the domains I have gotten from drop places. Some I got for $60.00 or so and a few for a few hundred.

I have plans for them all - well If I get time that is

Oh, well my brother in law is ronlevy (not FM) and he wants to start up a store soon, and wanted this domain - so I back ordered it..

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11-30-2005, 11:45 AM

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Interesting. Nice domain.

Haven't had a chance to look at your service, will check it out later.

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11-30-2005, 11:48 AM

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Yep, that is a few of the domains I have gotten from drop places. Some I got for $60.00 or so and a few for a few hundred.

I have plans for them all - well If I get time that is

Oh, well my brother in law is ronlevy (not FM) and he wants to start up a store soon, and wanted this domain - so I back ordered it..

hahaha- small world!

i would also like to extend an invitation to you for a free 1 month platinum account at http://pddw.com a service of http://ipalert.com

i want to hear your thoughts although you may not want to hip people to our service for fear of competition lol --

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11-30-2005, 12:54 PM

Nice catch Evan. I'm still not really accustomed to pddw lol, I think I used it like once or twice.

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11-30-2005, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by pradaboy

Nice catch Evan. I'm still not really accustomed to pddw lol, I think I used it like once or twice.

i block off 12:30 am to 1:15 am nightly to sift and you can see the results. lmk if i can assist you. the best new tool we are adding RIGHT NOW is the instant backorder- so when you do want to backorder - it's super speedy--

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11-30-2005, 01:25 PM

The Instant Backorder looks sweet.

Just a suggestion, if the name is only going to be caught by Snapnames, you should have it only 'check' or show the Snapnames box. That way there's not a wasted GoDaddy charge for a name they couldn't pick up anyway.

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11-30-2005, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

The Instant Backorder looks sweet.

Just a suggestion, if the name is only going to be caught by Snapnames, you should have it only 'check' or show the Snapnames box. That way there's not a wasted GoDaddy charge for a name they couldn't pick up anyway.

you spying on me- i just emailed michael the same message lololol

after the button is clicked in the instant backorder module it returns the results and shows one how many credits they have left at godaddy if applicable. we will add a bulk backorder feature to http://instantbackorder.com next that allows one to hit 'em all in one shot too.

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11-30-2005, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by XPays

i block off 12:30 am to 1:15 am nightly to sift and you can see the results. lmk if i can assist you. the best new tool we are adding RIGHT NOW is the instant backorder- so when you do want to backorder - it's super speedy--

subj: IPalert.com Announces Instant Backordering!

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Instant Backordering at 5 major services: SnapNames, Pool, NameWinner,
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After a quick and easy configuration, one-click backordering will be
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We invite you to try it out right now and we appreciate any feedback!

We are also pleased to announce that we have expanded our range of
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Happy Domain Hunting!

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That looks very good, very nice feature!

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11-30-2005, 01:49 PM

brujah- quick question- what happens if for some reason nobody backorder's a netsol drop through snap? is there even a remote possibility the domain could re-enter the market?

we will mark netsol drops at the very least so people know that it's going to go through snap; but, if there is a 0% chance it will get out regardless then we could eliminate the other registrar's right off the bat on the marked domains.

whatya think?

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11-30-2005, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by XPays

brujah- quick question- what happens if for some reason nobody backorder's a netsol drop through snap? is there even a remote possibility the domain could re-enter the market?

we will mark netsol drops at the very least so people know that it's going to go through snap; but, if there is a 0% chance it will get out regardless then we could eliminate the other registrar's right off the bat on the marked domains.

whatya think?

Yes, the name would be available for anyone (including the backorder services) then.. but if it's a Snapnames only name and you have Snapnames checked for your instant backorder, you're wasting time with the others because Snapnames is going to get it.

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11-30-2005, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

Yes, the name would be available for anyone (including the backorder services) then.. but if it's a Snapnames only name and you have Snapnames checked for your instant backorder, you're wasting time with the others because Snapnames is going to get it.

i hope one of the changes with icann concerns no deals like the one between netsol and snap.

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11-30-2005, 01:57 PM

michael is saying there will be the .00001% chance somebody will grade a dropped domain lower than a $60 value and take their chances and backorder through godaddy with the hopes it will fall through and they are willing to go $20 on it. so we have decided to flag the snap drop's and let people decide for themselves.

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11-30-2005, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by XPays

i hope one of the changes with icann concerns no deals like the one between netsol and snap.

I've heard it'll be the extreme opposite.

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11-30-2005, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

I've heard it'll be the extreme opposite.

we are going to have to set up our own accredited registrar in '06

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11-30-2005, 02:43 PM

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11-30-2005, 03:07 PM

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