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  • David!
    By the wrath of Agamemnon
    • Apr 2004
    • 6501

    #51
    Originally posted by Joe Citizen
    So why didn't you answer my question?
    You know, there's more to life than dubya and the US.
    Get out of your basement a little, enjoy life, have some sex.
    .

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    • neverlearn
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2004
      • 2085

      #52
      Originally posted by Odin88
      So based on your logic, Adolf Hitler was also a happy Indian. Furthermore, WWII was a result of this happiness.

      "The word SWASTIKA stems from the Sanskrit, an ancient Indian language: SVASTIKAH, which means 'being happy'. In India the word is related to things of good fortune because it means being happy. The cause of all life and all manifestations of life is movement."

      Facism may have its roots in religion, as may democracy, socialism or anything else. But the fact remains Facism did not become common place in Europe and Germany prior to WWII as a result of religion. To say sucjh is utterly stupid.
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      • neverlearn
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        • Feb 2004
        • 2085

        #53
        Idiotic is you saying I believe that hitler was a happy indian...
        Do you think thats what I am saying?
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        • Odin88
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          • Jul 2003
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          #54
          Originally posted by neverlearn
          Sit down and talk to a vet dude.
          I dont want this to get into a pissing match with you but I know for 100% I am right ...you are wrong....research it more than skimming through the links to keep your face.

          take like a man dude.
          My Grandfather fought in Stalingrad for Germany, and I talked to him on many occassions, what is your point? You are utterly wrong, and you can't see it. Let me lay it out simply for you.

          WWII caused originally by Adolf Hitler getting in to power. Adolf Hitler developed his beliefs not as a result of his religious beliefs. The people of Germany certainly did not vote him in because he was a Pagan (something which noone can truly prove), nor did they support him and his war and go off to die because they believed it was fulfilling their religious duty.

          It isn't hard to work it out my friend. Any link you try to draw between Germany's war and religion is going to be a long drawn out one without any true relevance.

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          • neverlearn
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2004
            • 2085

            #55
            Originally posted by Odin88
            My Grandfather fought in Stalingrad for Germany, and I talked to him on many occassions, what is your point? You are utterly wrong, and you can't see it. Let me lay it out simply for you.

            WWII caused originally by Adolf Hitler getting in to power. Adolf Hitler developed his beliefs not as a result of his religious beliefs. The people of Germany certainly did not vote him in because he was a Pagan (something which noone can truly prove), nor did they support him and his war and go off to die because they believed it was fulfilling their religious duty.

            It isn't hard to work it out my friend. Any link you try to draw between Germany's war and religion is going to be a long drawn out one without any true relevance.
            Keep telling yourself that.
            and lemme tell ya something
            you better get on with the here and now
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            • Martin
              "Assassins"
              • Dec 2001
              • 17274

              #56
              Good Riddance. He was a crook.

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              • Odin88
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 3267

                #57
                Originally posted by neverlearn
                Keep telling yourself that.
                and lemme tell ya something
                you better get on with the here and now
                Of course, and my reasoning for actually debating it is not because I am trying to relive WWII or something. The point is people believe anything related to religion is bad, and all war is caused by religion. Sure, Islam may be a violent religion, as may of Christianity in the past, but it does not make blind assumptions correct or healthy.

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                • neverlearn
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 2085

                  #58
                  I respect that your Granpa is a man willing to die for his country...but that dont make the Third riech oblivious to well known fact....

                  Explain to me why hitler was hoisting religeous artifacts especially the spear that *supposably* pierced Christ*
                  and the ark...he was bent on power...if you cant see that....well you gots some work to do...
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                  • Odin88
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3267

                    #59
                    Originally posted by neverlearn
                    I respect that your Granpa is a man willing to die for his country...but that dont make the Third riech oblivious to well known fact....

                    Explain to me why hitler was hoisting religeous artifacts especially the spear that *supposably* pierced Christ*
                    and the ark...he was bent on power...if you cant see that....well you gots some work to do...
                    His links to religion where more cultural than anything else. Hitler was hardly a religious man to anyone's knowledge. I would of thought that was quite obvious.

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                    • neverlearn
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 2085

                      #60
                      Originally posted by neverlearn
                      I respect that your Granpa is a man willing to die for his country...but that dont make the Third riech oblivious to well known fact....

                      Explain to me why hitler was hoisting religeous artifacts especially the spear that *supposably* pierced Christ*
                      and the ark...he was bent on power...if you cant see that....well you gots some work to do...
                      Honestly ... I cant know what your granfather went through, my girlfriend is polish, she says things that I already know are a part of war...people folow orders and its easy to say I'd do this or I'd do that. The Germans were an admirable foe. Strong as steel. But their leader was wrong... and that what happened...nobody holds it against Germans in general...maybe some old time fuck tards do ...but thats thier story. My best friend is German and hes a great guy...the fact that Germans hold this weight n thier shoulders because of hitle ris fuckin retarded.
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                      • neverlearn
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                        • Feb 2004
                        • 2085

                        #61
                        peace bro.
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                        • xxxdesign-net
                          My hips don't lie
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 10129

                          #62
                          carosse!!

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                          • Joe Citizen
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4552

                            #63
                            Originally posted by PussyMan
                            You know, there's more to life than dubya and the US.
                            Get out of your basement a little, enjoy life, have some sex.
                            Man, firstly I live in my own house, not a basement.

                            I enjoy life more than you will ever know and sex is not a problem as I have a live-in girlfriend.

                            On top of all that, in two weeks I'll be in Amsterdam smoking hash and weed and eating magic mushrooms.

                            So yeah, don't get the idea that I'm some embittered lefty just because I despise Bush and your country's bullshit foreign policy.

                            I'm living life like a champion.

                            Last edited by Joe Citizen; 11-10-2004, 09:12 PM.

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                            • Gynecologist
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 2184

                              #64
                              Goodbye you fuck.

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                              • Linguist
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 1706

                                #65
                                Originally posted by neverlearn
                                Depends on what your definition of religeon is...
                                Hitler was a pagan...the whole nazi bullshit was based on mythology and his own megalomaniacy...

                                He thought symbols were gonna stop our boys getting thier bullets in his living room...

                                He was wrong
                                sooooooooooooooooooooo wrong
                                WWI and WWII were caused by Meglomaniacs...
                                Bush latley is defining the the new "Rich hahahaha Megolomaniac" so our future families can all read it clearly
                                Nazism was based on paganism just as much as it was based on christianity:


                                315-310

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                                • neverlearn
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 2085

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Sjelefall
                                  Nazism was based on paganism just as much as it was based on christianity:


                                  Yup
                                  Hitler was so freaked out thinking he was a chosen one he thought he could transblend (is that a word...yes it is cause Im drinking) religeon to his liking
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                                  • TheJimmy
                                    ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 10747

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                    Both sides over there have blood on their hands J.

                                    Let's call it like it really is.

                                    And the US right now is causing tens of thousands of innocent kids and women to be injured and killed in Iraq.

                                    We're all fucking guilty as hell of crimes against each other.

                                    thanks for posting some unbiased angst here...a few of us feel the same way...we're plain and simply sowing more seeds of hate than peace, and for that I feel bad for your and my child's future....


                                    some day that shit will come home to roost unless we do something about this situation with realistic adult thoughtfulness....the current juvenile, let's kill them all thought-ests are not digging a nice hole for anyone to inhabit...
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                                    • VeriSexy
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                                      • 25463

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                                      • PenisFace
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                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 3774

                                        #69
                                        The world is a worse place now that Arafat has passed on. May he rest in peace.
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                                        • Manowar
                                          jellyfish  
                                          • Dec 2003
                                          • 71528

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by juicylinks
                                          may he rot in hell

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                                          • Odin88
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 3267

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by neverlearn
                                            Yup
                                            Hitler was so freaked out thinking he was a chosen one he thought he could transblend (is that a word...yes it is cause Im drinking) religeon to his liking
                                            I think he was actually debating your point. You do realise just because a Nazi soldier is a Christian it doesn't mean he is fighting for Christianity. In other words, he is not fighting a religious war.

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                                            • CET
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 2754

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                              How many deaths is Dubya responsible for?
                                              Red herring. We're not talking about Bush, we're talking about Arafat. Stay on subject please.
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                                              • CET
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                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 2754

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by neverlearn
                                                Depends on what your definition of religeon is...
                                                Hitler was a pagan...the whole nazi bullshit was based on mythology and his own megalomaniacy...

                                                He thought symbols were gonna stop our boys getting thier bullets in his living room...

                                                He was wrong
                                                sooooooooooooooooooooo wrong
                                                WWI and WWII were caused by Meglomaniacs...
                                                Bush latley is defining the the new "Rich hahahaha Megolomaniac" so our future families can all read it clearly
                                                You're wrong, Hitler was a catholic. He even met and recieved the blessing of the pope. The SS had belt buckles with the word "Gott Mit Uns" or "God is With Us". Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf "I believe I am doing god's work".

                                                Herman Goering was into teutonic paganism and excavated old pagan sites as a testiment to german superiority.
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                                                • CET
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 2754

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by neverlearn
                                                  HOLY fuck ...here ya go m8.........

                                                  http://www.islamdenouncesantisemitism.com/thepagan.htm



                                                  http://www.neopagan.net/PaganDefs.html




                                                  http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/thenewage.html



                                                  and further more...

                                                  you see this image man...it strikes a wierd chord in everyone...you know why cause its got bad vibes...lets just say that...

                                                  you wanna know the ancient meaning to this symbol...
                                                  http://www.swastika-info.com/en/bedeutung.php

                                                  hows that?
                                                  Please read Mein Kampf.
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                                                  • CET
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 2754

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Odin88
                                                    My Grandfather fought in Stalingrad for Germany, and I talked to him on many occassions, what is your point? You are utterly wrong, and you can't see it. Let me lay it out simply for you.

                                                    WWII caused originally by Adolf Hitler getting in to power. Adolf Hitler developed his beliefs not as a result of his religious beliefs. The people of Germany certainly did not vote him in because he was a Pagan (something which noone can truly prove), nor did they support him and his war and go off to die because they believed it was fulfilling their religious duty.

                                                    It isn't hard to work it out my friend. Any link you try to draw between Germany's war and religion is going to be a long drawn out one without any true relevance.
                                                    1. Hitler was elected.
                                                    2. Hitler was a catholic. Read Mein Kampf.
                                                    3. The German people were happy enough to go along with the nationalistic pride Hitler played up, they were beat down, in an economic depression and the Treaty of Versais went too far and rubbed the German people's noses in the fact that they lost. It's a short step from nationalism to war.
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                                                    • smack
                                                      Push Porn Like Weight.
                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                      • 10652

                                                      #76
                                                      I'ts going to be interesting to see how the power trasnfer happens and what ramifactions this has on the whole situation with israel.
                                                      Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                      • CET
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 2754

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Odin88
                                                        His links to religion where more cultural than anything else. Hitler was hardly a religious man to anyone's knowledge. I would of thought that was quite obvious.
                                                        1. He was VERY religious. The church has been doing their best to distance themselves from Hitler, but they once blessed Hitler and his 3rd Reich.

                                                        2. You're pulling a "no true scotsman" fallacy. Because he did horrible things, that makes it obvious that he was not religious, because no true religious person would do such things.
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                                                        • KRL
                                                          Entrepreneur
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 31429

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by smack
                                                          I'ts going to be interesting to see how the power trasnfer happens and what ramifactions this has on the whole situation with israel.
                                                          I think there is going to be a huge power struggle. Arafat's wife is trying to keep control of the Palestinian purse strings. She was getting $100,000 a month out of the PLO accounts.

                                                          She better get a truck full of body guards right now, as other factions of the PLO want her gone so they can get control the bank accounts.
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                                                          • CET
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                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 2754

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by PenisFace
                                                            The world is a worse place now that Arafat has passed on. May he rest in peace.
                                                            I'm not even going to ask if you're joking, because there's no way you can be serious.
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                                                            • smack
                                                              Push Porn Like Weight.
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 10652

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by KRL
                                                              I think there is going to be a huge power struggle. Arafat's wife is trying to keep control of the Palestinian purse strings. She was getting $100,000 a month out of the PLO accounts.

                                                              She better get a truck full of body guards right now, as other factions of the PLO want her gone so they can get control the bank accounts.
                                                              the only hope i really have for this is that a new generation of PLO leadership will realize the futility of all the violence and work something out with israel.

                                                              however i thinkit doubtful that anything positive will come of this.
                                                              Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                              • SilverTab
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                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                • 5060

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by CET
                                                                Please read Mein Kampf.
                                                                it's even online for free!
                                                                http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

                                                                reading it...
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                                                                • CET
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 2754

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by SilverTab
                                                                  it's even online for free!
                                                                  http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

                                                                  reading it...
                                                                  Oh fuck is that sweet!
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                                                                  • smack
                                                                    Push Porn Like Weight.
                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                    • 10652

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by SilverTab
                                                                    it's even online for free!
                                                                    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

                                                                    reading it...
                                                                    nice, that's definately getting bookmarked.
                                                                    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                                    • SilverTab
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                      • 5060

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by CET
                                                                      Oh fuck is that sweet!
                                                                      there's also most of his important speech on there.....looooots of reading there
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                                                                      • dj pussy
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                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                        • 1440

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                        Man, firstly I live in my own house, not a basement.

                                                                        I enjoy life more than you will ever know and sex is not a problem as I have a live-in girlfriend.

                                                                        On top of all that, in two weeks I'll be in Amsterdam smoking hash and weed and eating magic mushrooms.

                                                                        So yeah, don't get the idea that I'm some embittered lefty just because I despise Bush and your country's bullshit foreign policy.

                                                                        I'm living life like a champion.

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                                                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                          • 40377

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Condolences to his family and the Palestinian people.
                                                                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                          • SpikeHeel
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                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                            • 1531

                                                                            #87
                                                                            well according to realists death of people because of political conlicts is collateral damage. it's just so unfortunate.

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                                                                            • mardigras
                                                                              Bon temps!
                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 14194

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Short Irish Guy
                                                                              Exactly. It'll be hilarious if he died of AIDS
                                                                              AIDS isn't funny, no matter who has it.
                                                                              .

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                                                                              • Lykos
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                • 31027

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Hmmm...not that funny...still a dead man...

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                                                                                • reynold
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 51271

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  the guys dead let him rest already.

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                                                                                  • ironlung
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                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                    • 1012

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    they get roses when they die

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                                                                                    • Playful_Lady
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                                                                                      • 516

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      bottoms up.
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