I totally agree, they are all a waste of skin!
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The United States has experienced a decline in the number of welfare recipients from a high of 14.2 million in 1994, representing 5.5% of the population to 5.8 million in June of 2000, representing 2.1% of the population. The number of welfare recipients in the United States has declined by 8.4 million, a decrease of 59.4% between 1994 and 2000.I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
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Hehe, thats fucked up.Originally posted by ThunderBalls
Fine with me, lets get rid of the south.
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You mean like Israel?Originally posted by Bigwilly
so gettin pissed over welfare isent the right thing to get pissed over. You should be pissed when you see headlines where we give 100 billion in aid to some craphole thirdworld country, so they can buy guns to kill each other.
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go look at some figures on govenment spending. The war to liberate iraq from sadam is costins more than what welfare would cost us for the next 50 yearsOriginally posted by BRISK
It does?Comment
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Post proofOriginally posted by Bigwilly
go look at some figures on govenment spending. The war to liberate iraq from sadam is costins more than what welfare would cost us for the next 50 yearsI post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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Let me clear something up: I'm from the Netherlands. Our social security system is large and in charge.
Over here, tons of young people who can't find a job they really like see welfare as a valid alternative to doing work they don't like.
I don't think people should starve if they really aren't able to find work, ofcourse. However, when people want money from the government, they should work for it, and when they are getting tax money, they should be on birth control.
And yes, those who really aren't able to work because of disabilities should get money. They do exist - I know some personally - and society has the obligation to protect the weak (weak, ofcourse, is not the same thing as lazy)./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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go prove me wrongOriginally posted by BRISK
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I'm not the one throwing out numbers that are completely unsupported by any source. You are. Are you unable to prove your own claims?Originally posted by Bigwilly
go prove me wrong
I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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Ever heard of "the burden of proof"? There's a reason they don't call it "the burden of disproof".Originally posted by Bigwilly
go prove me wrong
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Originally posted by BRISK
I'm not the one throwing out numbers that are completely unsupported by any source. You are. Are you unable to prove your own claims?
think about it, the defence budget alone is what half our money goes to. Go look for yourself im not gonna spend the next 45 min lookin for figures just so i can prove myself rightComment
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In the US there are millions of abled bodied people living on welfare and social security.
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Then you loseOriginally posted by Bigwilly
think about it, the defence budget alone is what half our money goes to. Go look for yourself im not gonna spend the next 45 min lookin for figures just so i can prove myself rightI post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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yeah. in texas ya get a whole 260.00 a month. whoo hoo! i'm quittin my job! mercedes here i come!Originally posted by pornguy
In the US there are millions of abled bodied people living on welfare and social security.
It is a business in case you did not know.I still love everybodyComment
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Prove this tooOriginally posted by Bigwilly
the defence budget alone is what half our money goes toI post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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Over here, a single person without children on welfare gets $1000 a month, and that's not counting all the different kinds of subsidies they get.Originally posted by titmowse
yeah. in texas ya get a whole 260.00 a month. whoo hoo! i'm quittin my job! mercedes here i come!/(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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well, to be perfectly technical, in texas one gets 260.00 in payment, about 260.00 for food stamps and if ya know enough to get hud, that's at most 400.00 per month for rent. as far as medicaid, i think it's four prescriptions per month and coverage for whatever medicaid deems coverable.Originally posted by punkworld
Over here, a single person without children on welfare gets $1000 a month, and that's not counting all the different kinds of subsidies they get.
oh, and ya have to pretty much have kids to get welfare. they don't often dole it out to couples or single people.
i don't know so much about social security except that my kid qualifies. but we'd rather not go that routeLast edited by titmowse; 11-09-2004, 03:52 PM.I still love everybodyComment
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So that's $1000+ in costs to society, or about as much as someone who makes $3000 a month pays in taxes.Originally posted by titmowse
well, to be perfectly technical, in texas one gets 260.00 in payment, about 260.00 for food stamps and if ya know enough to get hud, that's at most 400.00 per month for rent. as far as medicaid, i think it's four prescriptions per month and coverage for whatever medicaid deems coverable.
When such an amount of money is spent on people who don't actually need help but are too lazy to work, that's an insult to those paying for it./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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that's only when you assume that those on welfare are lazy.Originally posted by punkworld
So that's $1000+ in costs to society, or about as much as someone who makes $3000 a month pays in taxes.
When such an amount of money is spent on people who don't actually need help but are too lazy to work, that's an insult to those paying for it.
welfare isn't supposed to be a lifestyle. it's designed to help people get back on their feet.
the sad part is that all the different agencies in the US don't work together. the welfare folks won't tell a client that they qualify for free job training. well, they did qualify until bushco cut the funding for the job training partnership act.I still love everybodyComment
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I don't assume that those on welfare are lazy, I know that many on welfare are lazy. I have no real problem with society helping out those who really need help, I have a problem with those who are able to work but refuse the opportunity.Originally posted by titmowse
that's only when you assume that those on welfare are lazy.
welfare isn't supposed to be a lifestyle. it's designed to help people get back on their feet.
the sad part is that all the different agencies in the US don't work together. the welfare folks won't tell a client that they qualify for free job training. well, they did qualify until bushco cut the funding for the job training partnership act.
Welfare isn't supposed to be a lifestyle, but for many it is. That is what I have a problem with - the tax money of hardworking people being wasted on moochers./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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ok i was wrong about the defence its only 20% i figured i overexagreated that one but the social service budget is grouped with education which makes up 3.7% of the budget, even if half the money goes to education and half to all social services (unemployment welfare ect) thats still less than 2% of the budget spent on all social services
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and i agree. what i don't agree with is your blanket assessment of welfare recipients.Originally posted by punkworld
I don't assume that those on welfare are lazy, I know that many on welfare are lazy. I have no real problem with society helping out those who really need help, I have a problem with those who are able to work but refuse the opportunity.
Welfare isn't supposed to be a lifestyle, but for many it is. That is what I have a problem with - the tax money of hardworking people being wasted on moochers.
i was on welfare for a year and a half back in the late eighties. i went to school while on it and now i'm off it. it saved my life and gave me the opportunity to be a better mother.I still love everybodyComment
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Did you notice "social security" at the top of the list with 21.7% on that page?Originally posted by Bigwilly
ok i was wrong about the defence its only 20% i figured i overexagreated that one but the social service budget is grouped with education which makes up 3.7% of the budget, even if half the money goes to education and half to all social services (unemployment welfare ect) thats still less than 2% of the budget spent on all social services
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that's a different social security. that figure is social security retirement benefits. the people who recieive that pay for it throughout thier lifetimes.Originally posted by punkworld
Did you notice "social security" at the top of the list with 21.7% on that page?
you're confusing ssi with social security retirement.I still love everybodyComment
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What happened to her personal responsibility when she chose to be a baby factory?Originally posted by sweetME
What if she is young, able-bodied female with 4 kids to take care of on her own. Who's gonna take care of her kids when she goes to work?-uno
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good question. let's ask the father of those kids who isn't paying supportOriginally posted by uno
What happened to her personal responsibility when she chose to be a baby factory?I still love everybodyComment
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OK, but that still doesn't prove your previous claim:Originally posted by Bigwilly
the social service budget is grouped with education which makes up 3.7% of the budget, even if half the money goes to education and half to all social services (unemployment welfare ect) thats still less than 2% of the budget spent on all social services
Considering your admitted record on over exagerating numbers, I'm going to assume you just pulled this "factoid" out of your ass too.Originally posted by Bigwilly
Our government spends 100x the ammont of money spent on welfare on helping out foreigh countrys.I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
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you should see california. all your stats more then doubled. they also get a certain amount per child over the top which is annoying. these poor familys, to an extent, have children to get a bigger check. i too am annoyed with these welfare familys who probably arent legal anyways getting handouts because they represent votes in a blue state. i cant even shop on the 1st-2nd and 15th-16th of each month because the store is packed with people who dont speak english, have 4+ kids and shoppingS cart full of expensive brandnamed products.Originally posted by titmowse
well, to be perfectly technical, in texas one gets 260.00 in payment, about 260.00 for food stamps and if ya know enough to get hud, that's at most 400.00 per month for rent. as far as medicaid, i think it's four prescriptions per month and coverage for whatever medicaid deems coverable.
oh, and ya have to pretty much have kids to get welfare. they don't often dole it out to couples or single people.
i don't know so much about social security except that my kid qualifies. but we'd rather not go that route333-765-551Comment
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good idea. maybe the state will pay for the 15 dna tests to establish who the father is only to find he has a welfare family of his own.Originally posted by titmowse
good question. let's ask the father of those kids who isn't paying support333-765-551Comment
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brisk no reason to act like a pick about itComment
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okay. totally ignoring the implied racism in that statement...oh forget itOriginally posted by bringer
you should see california. all your stats more then doubled. they also get a certain amount per child over the top which is annoying. these poor familys, to an extent, have children to get a bigger check. i too am annoyed with these welfare familys who probably arent legal anyways getting handouts because they represent votes in a blue state. i cant even shop on the 1st-2nd and 15th-16th of each month because the store is packed with people who dont speak english, have 4+ kids and shoppingS cart full of expensive brandnamed products.I still love everybodyComment
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The title indeed was a bit too much of a blanket statement, but I thought my posts made it pretty clear that I'm actually referring to a specific group of welfare recipients - one that unfortunately seems to be the majority.Originally posted by titmowse
and i agree. what i don't agree with is your blanket assessment of welfare recipients.
i was on welfare for a year and a half back in the late eighties. i went to school while on it and now i'm off it. it saved my life and gave me the opportunity to be a better mother.
My own mother has been on welfare for a short while when I was a kid, too. But she went out and got a job which was well below her qualifications, got a second college degree while also working, got a better job, etc.
On the other hand, there are people like my housemate's girlfriend, who is 21, doesn't like her job, has done 1 or 2 job interviews with other companies, is now convinced there is no other work available, and is considering quitting her job and going for welfare./(bb|[^b]{2})/Comment
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now you're just being sillyOriginally posted by bringer
good idea. maybe the state will pay for the 15 dna tests to establish who the father is only to find he has a welfare family of his own.I still love everybodyComment
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But I am a prick.Originally posted by Bigwilly
brisk no reason to act like a pick about it
I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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i wasnt serious when i said that 100x it was a figure of speachComment
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my description is accurate. as i stated, i live in CALIFORNIA in a large agricultural area.Originally posted by titmowse
okay. totally ignoring the implied racism in that statement...oh forget it333-765-551Comment
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you have a point. we all have to work to eat.
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then maybe you need to give her some encouragement to keep trying.Originally posted by punkworld
The title indeed was a bit too much of a blanket statement, but I thought my posts made it pretty clear that I'm actually referring to a specific group of welfare recipients - one that unfortunately seems to be the majority.
My own mother has been on welfare for a short while when I was a kid, too. But she went out and got a job which was well below her qualifications, got a second college degree while also working, got a better job, etc.
On the other hand, there are people like my housemate's girlfriend, who is 21, doesn't like her job, has done 1 or 2 job interviews with other companies, is now convinced there is no other work available, and is considering quitting her job and going for welfare.
it's pretty damned devastating to feel like there is no hope.I still love everybodyComment
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or mabye i did spell it right eithor way i dont care ill try in the future not to use figure of speeches and make sure to have have graphs and figures whenever i post somethin to make a pointComment
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so you're saying migrant farmworkers make a living wage?Originally posted by bringer
my description is accurate. as i stated, i live in CALIFORNIA in a large agricultural area.I still love everybodyComment
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Your "figure of speach" makes you lack credibility. Making your point with facts works much better than random grossly exagerated numbers.Originally posted by Bigwilly
i wasnt serious when i said that 100x it was a figure of speachI post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
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while it's true there are many who are just lazy, there are also just as many on welfare who have no clothes to show up at job interviews with, no social skills to work with the public and/or no confidence or even education. There are also many that are mentally ill. What may seem like laziness to many is actually people dealing with internal demons that they do not know how to deal with let alone keep out of their work lives.
My mom has been on welfare for 20 some years because of mental illness. When she did work she just didn't feel well at all after awhile and had to either leave or be fired.
People on welfare also become part of a vicious cycle that is extremely difficult to break free from. being raised on welfare myself I struggled to break free from the cycle. I finally did by a last ditch effort and taking a job scrubbing toilets and polishing floors. it was only then that i became accustomed to work. to this day I still miss the freedom that job gave me.
you know those people on welfare who live in projects? many of them want jobs but honnestly feel they are trapped in poverty. they need clothes and a boost of confidence to get out there and help themselves.
Think about this the next time the united way asks for donations. Help can be given with the smallest of contributions. they help poverty stricken people get the clothes and tools they need to find a job.Comment
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im done with this thread there is no point to it like argueing on the internet over stupid shit out of our control makes a differnece. I hope you guys do the same.
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they day you and america decide to pay $30 for a bag of oranges is the day they make a living wage. people cant be reckless and have children just because they can without means to support said children. its a never ending cycle with no clear solution.Originally posted by titmowse
so you're saying migrant farmworkers make a living wage?333-765-551Comment
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How long can somebody stay on welfare in the us ?Originally posted by rayadp05Comment
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there are solutions. it's just easier to put band-aids on societal problems.Originally posted by bringer
they day you and america decide to pay $30 for a bag of oranges is the day they make a living wage. people cant be reckless and have children just because they can without means to support said children. its a never ending cycle with no clear solution.I still love everybodyComment
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if they have kids, they can stay on until they're of legal age.Originally posted by Doctor Dre
How long can somebody stay on welfare in the us ?333-765-551Comment
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that's just not true. at least not in texas. not since clinton reformed the welfare system. two years max.Originally posted by bringer
if they have kids, they can stay on until they're of legal age.I still love everybodyComment
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