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Epassporte WARNING - got charged 4 * $79.29 and not getting a thing

11-27-2005, 04:42 AM

most of you already knew this , but epassporte SHOULD NOT be used for buying stuff online

I decided to do so , but boy I regret it

I wanted to buy some stuff over at amazon.com . The stuff I wanted would cost me in total with express shipping $79.29.

I fill out the CC info and think everything is ok. It's not.

I check my epassporte online statement and see I am getting charged 4 * $79.29 instead of one. On top of that I get a message from amazon.com that they are unable to charge my card.

Final result : I have to pay 4 * $79.29 for something I will never receive

amazon claims they are unable to charge my card ,yet my 4 * $79.29 is gone ? but to who ?

epassporte says I have to get amazon.com to send them a fax to resolve this , amazon.com says they are unable to charge my card and thus they dont need to fax shit

>>> DONT USE epassporte for online payments
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11-27-2005, 04:45 AM

You will get the money back eventually, next year probably

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11-27-2005, 04:46 AM

damn that sucks man
sorry to hear that....but you have to convince Amazon to fax the shit to ePass....and your pending amount will be droped...

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11-27-2005, 04:51 AM

epass could fix that with 1 phone call... but, they won't.

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11-27-2005, 04:53 AM

Make it clear to amazon that you realize this isn't there fault, but faxing what epassporte needs would go a long way in keeping you as a customer.

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11-27-2005, 04:54 AM

Sounds weird.

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11-27-2005, 04:57 AM

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11-27-2005, 04:58 AM

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11-27-2005, 04:58 AM

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11-27-2005, 04:59 AM

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damn i feel bad for you bro

losing money like this sucks ....I am still hoping this can get resolved
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11-27-2005, 05:01 AM

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11-27-2005, 05:03 AM

With the excessive fees Epassporte charges, one would think they would have a better customer service.
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11-27-2005, 05:07 AM

Damn,that really sux
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11-27-2005, 05:10 AM

It's worth sending the fax. There is a 30-day clearance period during which the merchant may change their mind, offer additional info. etc. Epassporte can't do anything before 30 days, without permission or "info" from the merchant.

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11-27-2005, 05:10 AM

That sucks, must be someway to resolve it.

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11-27-2005, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by 2HousePlague

It's worth sending the fax. There is a 30-day clearance period during which the merchant may change their mind, offer additional info. etc. Epassporte can't do anything before 30 days, without permission or "info" from the merchant.

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well , I have to get amazon.com to send epassporte a fax ,

easyier said than done
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11-27-2005, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command

losing money like this sucks ....I am still hoping this can get resolved

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The place where you used your virtual visa put through a pending authorization on your epassporte account. This means they have 30 days to either drop the authorization or process the transaction. If they do nothing, we must hold the pending authorization for a 30 day period. If you can contact the merchant and ask them to fax us a letter on company letter head stating they do not intend to process this transaction, we can remove the pending charge for you.

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11-27-2005, 06:45 AM

I have personally used my virtual card several times at amazon.co.uk with no problems.

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11-27-2005, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command

well , I have to get amazon.com to send epassporte a fax ,

easyier said than done

Hmmm. I am surprised it has proven this difficult to reach Amazon via normal routes. So, I must concede your point, if Amazon (or any other merchant) makes it this hard to resolve a matter of this type. I would presume to convey my experience to epassporte, and presume to expect their concerned attention. Feedback, at the right level of management, to the right person in the organization can transform a company. I've seen it happen. I've done it -- lol.

I would also extend epassporte some slack, since this regulation is not likely to be one that exists for their protection, so they probably don't have the option to call some bankerFed in DC and ask him to "lift" it so you can toss somebody 80 bucks --

But back to the subject of Amazon, and onto abnormal routes of getting in touch with the company.

I would ask this guy why you can't a CS rep on the phone and why he's been selling so much stock of late?

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11-27-2005, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by Keyser Soze

I have personally used my virtual card several times at amazon.co.uk with no problems.

I think the problem is they dont ask for a ccv number ?

I used my virtual visa with the nba store wich is also ran by amazon.com and there I had no problems ...
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11-27-2005, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by Keyser Soze

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The place where you used your virtual visa put through a pending authorization on your epassporte account. This means they have 30 days to either drop the authorization or process the transaction. If they do nothing, we must hold the pending authorization for a 30 day period. If you can contact the merchant and ask them to fax us a letter on company letter head stating they do not intend to process this transaction, we can remove the pending charge for you.

so you are saying that if I just wait 30 days all should get resolved without any problem ? because amazon.com will not be charging my card as they state they are unable to do so ?

exerpt from mail from amazon.com :

Greetings from Amazon.com.

We have not yet received a valid method of payment and thus are unable to
proceed with your order (#002-6112469-6772834). Your order remains open. To
verify and/or update payment information for this order, please visit the
following page:

http://www.amazon.com/payment-update

Please note that if we do not receive payment from you within the next 1
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Thank you for shopping at Amazon.com.

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11-27-2005, 07:08 AM

and btw , I must admit epassporte.com has been VERY HELPFULL on this matter

the only REAL problem I have right now is that all they can say is "make amazon.com fax us that they have no intentions of charging your card"

and that just is easyier said than done ....
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11-27-2005, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by Furious_Male

Make it clear to amazon that you realize this isn't there fault, but faxing what epassporte needs would go a long way in keeping you as a customer.

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11-27-2005, 07:13 AM

Weird.. I am always able to purcgase stuff on amazon using my epass card.
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11-27-2005, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command

and btw , I must admit epassporte.com has been VERY HELPFULL on this matter

the only REAL problem I have right now that all they can say is "make amazon.com fax us that they have no intentions of charging your card"

and that just is easyier said than done ....

I hear ya bro -- but let's not forget who the bad guys are, right. This is just another instance of the "front line" we face in this business that is rapidly beginning to feel like a circle, a noose. We have in epassporte the benefit of a service provided to us by people we actually know, who come to this board, in short, WHO GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU AND ME. Now, I realize it's cozy for some of y'all to think the world can all be monitored (if not controlled) from GFY -- it CANNOT. We're in here as much hiding, as we are brilliantly colluding. Whichever the case, I know that epass is in here with me --

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11-27-2005, 07:16 AM

they basically drained my acct on those charges

I have the impression that if I had more on my epass they would have also taken it
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11-27-2005, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command

they basically drained my acct on those charges

I have the impression that if I had more on my epass they would have also taken it

That's it --

Gather in ye all the data -- let us ALL take a look at it --

We'll see what we got and, together, I bet we'll come up with something good --

FYI: I had a jack in the box mishap looked just like that, that's how i know about the faxing -- lol -- it turned out that a decline (either because the cashier had entered the wrong figure or the amount of the charge exceeded balance) was still debited to me. Now, it sure ain't epass got that money. It happened at the Clift Hotel Bar too -- a few months back. I said run a tab, and they debited my card for $150. I wound up having one drink, paid for that and thought all was fine. Nope. The Clift was holding my cash. But I was feeling a little feisty, so I talked to one of the owner's main guys and just sprinkled a few consumer protection acronyms at him and words like usury and extortion, which will terrify the weak-spined senior manager who is out of his depth --

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11-27-2005, 07:27 AM

That sucks :/ Almost the same thing has happend to me 3 times before.

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11-27-2005, 07:34 AM

wtf.. i feel bad for you bro..

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11-27-2005, 07:43 AM

epassporte says I have to get amazon.com to send them a fax to resolve this , amazon.com says they are unable to charge my card and thus they dont need to fax shit

i was in the same story with a hosting campany
epassporte charged me but the company did got any monies..
so i told that company to send them the stuff
and epassporte charged me back..
so everything is ok for now
and yes it is all know fact that you sould not buy anything with epassporte cards
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11-27-2005, 07:44 AM

I had the same problem , epassporte will eventually clear the extra charges after amazon fax's the stuff to them.But you have to be persistent or they will just ignore you.

These problems arent unique to epassporte , i have them happen on regular visa's too , but its much easier to clear the charges on a regular visa ( call the 1-800 line and its done )

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11-27-2005, 08:05 AM

Well... here is what happened...

Amazon tried 4 times to charge the card. However the card is international and therefor certain things like varifying the address doesn't work. So it keeps getting declined.

Epassporte doesn't know each transaction is the same one. How could it? So it "holds" this amount each time.

Notice the PENDING on each charge. When Amazon doesn't actually get the money you will get your money back to spend. Read the FAQ at Epassporte.com to find out more about the length of time between the decline and the funds being available though...

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11-27-2005, 08:06 AM

i used my card at amazon.com many many times
including yesterday with no problem

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i dont know what they are telling you in your new position but anytime ineed something dropped my contacts at epass has always done it for me without making me wiat 30 days
why make this guy? you guys can verify if it is a legit transaction or not and ya guys know it ;)

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11-27-2005, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command

so you are saying that if I just wait 30 days all should get resolved without any problem ? because amazon.com will not be charging my card as they state they are unable to do so ?

exerpt from mail from amazon.com :

Greetings from Amazon.com.

We have not yet received a valid method of payment and thus are unable to
proceed with your order (#002-6112469-6772834). Your order remains open. To
verify and/or update payment information for this order, please visit the
following page:

http://www.amazon.com/payment-update

Please note that if we do not receive payment from you within the next 1
days, your order will be canceled.

Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address that
cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this message.

Thank you for shopping at Amazon.com.

Sincerely,
Amazon.com Customer Service
http://www.amazon.com/

Yes if you wait 30 days the pending charges will be dropped.

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11-27-2005, 10:56 AM

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11-27-2005, 11:09 AM

Overstock.com did the same thing to me. Told me they couldn't authorize my Epassporte card #, yet there was a bunch of charges on there and Overstock.com said there wasn't anything they could do about it because my card couldn't be authorized. Fuckers.

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11-27-2005, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

These problems arent unique to epassporte , i have them happen on regular visa's too , but its much easier to clear the charges on a regular visa ( call the 1-800 line and its done )

Yes, it's important to remember this. It works the same way with regular cards too.

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11-27-2005, 11:22 AM

Amazon.com is all fucked up. I ordered 3 books and recieved them 3 times. I am assuming my CC was charged 3 times as well. Something is wrong with this company it used to be a great place to buy books ?
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11-27-2005, 11:30 AM

That is some crazy shit! I bought something off of amazon a while back with epass and it worked fine.

What sucks with epassporte is they give the merchant 30 days for the charge to get completed. So you are out that money for 30 days at least, once that 30 days is up the charge should come off. Damn that sucks.
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11-27-2005, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command

most of you already knew this , but epassporte SHOULD NOT be used for buying stuff online

I decided to do so , but boy I regret it

I wanted to buy some stuff over at amazon.com . The stuff I wanted would cost me in total with express shipping $79.29.

I fill out the CC info and think everything is ok. It's not.

I check my epassporte online statement and see I am getting charged 4 * $79.29 instead of one. On top of that I get a message from amazon.com that they are unable to charge my card.

Final result : I have to pay 4 * $79.29 for something I will never receive

amazon claims they are unable to charge my card ,yet my 4 * $79.29 is gone ? but to who ?

epassporte says I have to get amazon.com to send them a fax to resolve this , amazon.com says they are unable to charge my card and thus they dont need to fax shit

>>> DONT USE epassporte for online payments

This is an authorization charge. They didnt take the money. They made sure you had it available to spend. The CC company takes it away from your available balance in case amazon decides they want your cash. It will come back
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11-27-2005, 11:32 AM

For what its worth - I just bought a whole load of xmas gifts via Amazon.co.uk with epass and didnt have any issues.

I dont know if this really works so take it with a pinch of salt - What I tend to do is just before buying anything with epass I try and login to my epass account - if I get one of those "back online in 15 mins" messages I wait until its fully working. So far I have avoided any issues like the one you describe, and thats after 100's (1000's?) of transactions.
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11-27-2005, 11:34 AM

WHen I was younger I hated this. I would have $100, try to order for $100, and something would happen, it didnt go through, then I'm broke for 30 days lol
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11-27-2005, 11:47 AM

that sucks, Contact Keyser Soze

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11-27-2005, 11:51 AM

only idiots use epassport for online purchases.

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11-27-2005, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by 2HousePlague

It's worth sending the fax. There is a 30-day clearance period during which the merchant may change their mind, offer additional info. etc. Epassporte can't do anything before 30 days, without permission or "info" from the merchant.

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11-27-2005, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by sandman!

I can charge anything back in under 30 days on my amx or my visa or my mastercard.

A charge back is a different issue - he cant charge back because nothing has been taken.
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11-27-2005, 12:24 PM

sounds not good anyway...

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11-27-2005, 12:32 PM

I've bought online at amazon and other places no problem too. Just bad luck in this case, I guess.

And hey, if something does go wrong, better the virtual visa than the real one, right??
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11-27-2005, 01:35 PM

These companies are not interested in faxing epassporte about your $80 charge. Unless its a reason you cant order from them IE all the money is tied up, they wont give a fuck and will say its released soon... etc. sometimes the merchant does release it after 5 or 10 days.
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11-27-2005, 02:12 PM

If you need the money now, get on their case. Otherwise just wait the 30 days and the money will get returned. I've had it happen to me on multiple occasions.
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