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  • pr0phet
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    • Jan 2005
    • 1041

    #1

    Is poker mostly luck or skill

    Discuss.....
    91
    Mostly Skill Very little luck
    0%
    18
    More skill then luck
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    50
    More luck then skill
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    Mostly luck skill means nothing
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  • bringer
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    • Jul 2003
    • 13082

    #2
    its skill. luck is for amateurs
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    • Blaze
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2001
      • 298

      #3
      Its about 50/50 A good player wlill win over the long term though.

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      • pr0phet
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2005
        • 1041

        #4
        But you can also make the point that when skill levels are matched, luck becomes a bigger factor
        Pr0phet

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        • mikeet
          this & that
          • May 2005
          • 5361

          #5
          Originally posted by pr0phet
          But you can also make the point that when skill levels are matched, luck becomes a bigger factor
          Good point ..

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          • potter
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            • Dec 2004
            • 6559

            #6
            The game poker - can be either luck or skill.


            Now winning poker.... That is 99% skill.

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            • Platinumpimp
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              • Jan 2004
              • 10214

              #7
              I dunno, but I just won one of the following on 2bet: XBOX / PSP / Ipod
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              • Rob
                I'm a great bowler.
                • Nov 2003
                • 13310

                #8
                90% skill and 10% luck.

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                • gideongallery
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                  • Aug 2003
                  • 7082

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Platinumpimp
                  I dunno, but I just won one of the following on 2bet: XBOX / PSP / Ipod
                  it really too bad you can only win once

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                  • chadglni
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                    • Dec 2002
                    • 6924

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pr0phet
                    But you can also make the point that when skill levels are matched, luck becomes a bigger factor
                    Choosing the right opponent is a skill also.


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                    • Spunky
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                      • Jun 2002
                      • 133978

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bringer
                      its skill. luck is for amateurs
                      Skill as in counting cards..other than that..it's a fluke

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                      • Paraskass
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                        • May 2002
                        • 5829

                        #12
                        Being good at poker rests on 2 important factors.

                        #1. I wouldn't call skill..... but maybe knowledge?
                        Knowing your odds.... etc. How good is your hand etc...

                        #2. A mix of bluffing skills and luck (if 2 equally good players match up, the one with the good hand got it by the luck of the draw... Now if the one with the sucky hand can bluff it's gonna be interesting.)

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                        • ytcracker
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                          • Dec 2002
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                          #13

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                          • Morgan
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                            • May 2002
                            • 10520

                            #14
                            all luck, just a time killer while waiting for your drink.
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                            • bdld
                              $100,000
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 11452

                              #15
                              has nothing to do with luck, you gotta know how much to bet and when, thats where the skill comes in to play.

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                              • chadglni
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 6924

                                #16
                                I would never go into biz with someone stating poker is all luck. Either they are really dumb or too lazy to research what they are talking about. Either one is a bad sign.


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                                • Morgan
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                                  • May 2002
                                  • 10520

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by chadglni
                                  I would never go into biz with someone stating poker is all luck. Either they are really dumb or too lazy to research what they are talking about. Either one is a bad sign.
                                  it's all luck when you dont even give a rats ass to play. i dont gamble, personally i wouldnt go into business with someone who gambles too much!
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                                  • vizortion
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                                    • Apr 2005
                                    • 134

                                    #18
                                    Having cashed out over 3000.00 in 3 days...I say its more skill than luck. And yes, I do this for a living.

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                                    • Kre8t0r
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                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 1304

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ytcracker

                                      Nice job ytcracker!!

                                      I need to make another deposit over there.

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                                      • chadglni
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 6924

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Morgan
                                        it's all luck when you dont even give a rats ass to play. i dont gamble, personally i wouldnt go into business with someone who gambles too much!
                                        I hate gambling, losing money sucks. Doesn't mean I don't play poker though.


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                                        • Doctor Dre
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                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 51692

                                          #21
                                          If you are playing agaisn't less skilled players, then it's skills... but when you are all at a certain level, the luck factors become bigger
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                                          • Morgan
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • May 2002
                                            • 10520

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by chadglni
                                            I hate gambling, losing money sucks. Doesn't mean I don't play poker though.
                                            you got a point there.. i was only stirring up shit to begin with; being the devil's advocate.

                                            ive really never given time to poker, im sure it's fun if you know what you're doing.
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                                            • Snake Doctor
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                                              • Mar 2001
                                              • 13449

                                              #23
                                              It has been proven in a court of law that poker is a skill game.

                                              This is why poker games for money are legal even in states where gambling is illegal.

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                                              • Penthouse Tony
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                                                • Apr 2004
                                                • 5835

                                                #24
                                                you can be lucky and win when you have no skill. you can be very unlucky and lose depite lots of skill.

                                                skill is what enables you to take advantage of the lucky streaks or keep alive in the unlucky streaks. Winning a tournment involves a lot of luck (ie burning people on the river rather than it happenig to you).
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                                                • woj
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                                                  • Jul 2002
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
                                                  you can be lucky and win when you have no skill. you can be very unlucky and lose depite lots of skill.

                                                  skill is what enables you to take advantage of the lucky streaks or keep alive in the unlucky streaks. Winning a tournment involves a lot of luck (ie burning people on the river rather than it happenig to you).
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                                                  • Red Ezra
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                                                    • May 2004
                                                    • 4678

                                                    #26
                                                    it's considered a game of skill - that's why it's legal to play in L.A. - but it's luck too - sometimes the better player just gets beat becasue the weaker player hits his card

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                                                    • Adultnet
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                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                      • 8713

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
                                                      you can be lucky and win when you have no skill. you can be very unlucky and lose depite lots of skill.

                                                      skill is what enables you to take advantage of the lucky streaks or keep alive in the unlucky streaks. Winning a tournment involves a lot of luck (ie burning people on the river rather than it happenig to you).
                                                      yeah luck makes every thing possible but a skilled player will need it way less..


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                                                      • Penthouse Tony
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                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                        • 5835

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Adultnet
                                                        yeah luck makes every thing possible but a skilled player will need it way less..
                                                        I agree but in almost any large tournment the winner got lucky at least once or twice by catching a card on the river that kept him in the game. It might have been early on in the tournament not at the final table but it still happened in that tournament enabling him to get to the final table and win.
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                                                        • manne
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                                                          • Sep 2003
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                                                          #29
                                                          I think 70% skill and 30% luck
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                                                          • Redrob
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                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                            • 4791

                                                            #30
                                                            I think you need some of both. If you are unskilled or unlucky, you gonna lose.

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                                                            • CherryLipsRosa
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                                                              • Mar 2004
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                                                              #31
                                                              I would say more luck than skills but they both go together.
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                                                              • Vitasoy
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                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                • 58202

                                                                #32
                                                                I'd say it's 70% skill and 30% luck..


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                                                                • StuBradley
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                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                  • 2625

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Yeah, I've made a little over $500 in the last 2 weeks playing on Poker.com. If you know what you are doing you will finish in the money in 75-80% of the online tourneys that you enter.


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                                                                  • Babagirls
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                                                                    • Feb 2001
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    50/50

                                                                    luck is getting the right cards, skill is knowing how to play them well.




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                                                                    • StuBradley
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                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 2625

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Babagirls
                                                                      50/50

                                                                      luck is getting the right cards, skill is knowing how to play them well.
                                                                      You make MUCH MORE money by knowing how to play than by what cards you are dealt. Only you know what cards are in your hand. I have won countless pots with shitty cards by making others think I had better cards then they did.


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                                                                      • Violetta
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        you need a little of both!
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                                                                        • fuzebox
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                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                          • 22353

                                                                          #37
                                                                          The same people make it to the final table every time... Whoever wins though is usually a crapshoot from there

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                                                                          • jollyperv
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                                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                                            • 3927

                                                                            #38
                                                                            And how many gfy dipshits think they're fucking poker experts after watching a few tournaments on tv...how the fuck do watch that shit, it's more boring than watching fishing.

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                                                                            • elitetec
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                                                                              • Sep 2005
                                                                              • 4944

                                                                              #39
                                                                              its definitely both



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                                                                              • x3guide
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                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                • 735

                                                                                #40
                                                                                More skill than luck. Enter a few tourns and you'll either realize this or keep living in denial.
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                                                                                • chodadog
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                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                  • 9736

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Luck is a factor, but a skilled player will come out on top over time. The thing about poker is that it's not always about the cards. One of Doyle Brunson's most famous quotes is that he doesn't need the cards to win a tournament, and it's very true.
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                                                                                  • Dagwolf
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                                                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                                                    • 23141

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    The house ALWAYS wins in the long run... but without skill, you're screwed.
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                                                                                    • Satisfaction
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                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                      • 10900

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      id say a bit of both

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                                                                                      • dig420
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                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                        • 9240

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Dagwolf
                                                                                        The house ALWAYS wins in the long run... but without skill, you're screwed.
                                                                                        There is no house except for a small rake. I always love the way in every GFY thread, especially political threads, someone ALWAYS chimes in with this cynical world weary definitive statement that is utterly fucked up lol

                                                                                        Not you in particular Dag, it's just a GFY phenomenon.

                                                                                        I play in the casinos a LOT since I live in LV. I usually get in with the best hand and get sucked out about half the time. It goes in cycles. You've got to know what you're doing, but luck is a big, big part of it.

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                                                                                        • Sly
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                                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                                          • 31378

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Dagwolf
                                                                                          The house ALWAYS wins in the long run... but without skill, you're screwed.
                                                                                          What?

                                                                                          I must be missing something. What does the house win other than the rake?
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                                                                                          • Sly
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by dig420
                                                                                            There is no house except for a small rake. I always love the way in every GFY thread, especially political threads, someone ALWAYS chimes in with this cynical world weary definitive statement that is utterly fucked up lol
                                                                                            Thank you. I felt incredibly stupid there for a minute, haha.
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                                                                                            • 3M TA3
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              good thread

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                                                                                              • SleazyDream
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                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                • 41470

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Blaze
                                                                                                Its about 50/50 A good player wlill win over the long term though.
                                                                                                then it isn't 50/50
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                                                                                                • dig420
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                                                                                                  • May 2001
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                  then it isn't 50/50
                                                                                                  it's somewhat close. You see a lot of people that just started playing the game at final tables in tournaments. I think ytcracker will probably agree with me that aggression is more important than luck, good or bad. And you have to know where the fine line is between very aggressive and foolhardy. It's a tricky game.

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                                                                                                  • adonthenet
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                                                                                                    • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    More skill then luck
                                                                                                    thats what i think..

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