Glitch gave Bush EXTRA votes in Ohio

an "error".. HA!

Gee, who woulda guessed.

yup fuckage

im pissed about it everytime i hear about it, I wnder how bush loks himself in teh mirror without saying to himself that he is a complete fucktard.

Imagine an error in all the machines across the country...

[Begin Sarcasm @ 200%] Oh, what a shock.... No-one would of expected this in any magnitute [/ End Extreme Sarcasm]

Why does the richest country in the world have such a bullshit way of doing an election? (the way ballots are cast and tallied)

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=384216&s=

If you step back and think about what you asked for just a few moments the answer will come to you.

It made no sense the exit polls said KErry won but the voting machines said Bush. Its fucked, glad the press is showing a little balls .

Even though, he still had more legitimate votes than kerry did.

it is always amusing to see the uninformed give facts to the uneducated. I just want to know did you get that wonderful foil hat on sale? And does CNN come in better on the set if you stand on your head with your thumb up your ass facing north?

What they need is a couple of heavyset bouncers at each polling place with those counters tied around their fingers, you can be damned sure nothing will "glitch" and the count will be accurate!

And Bush would still win.

how would you know?

I still dont know why the fuck u dont use a Pen and Paper

Plus voting for the President of the United States of America is such a non event any way.

Don't you realise that the basis of a democracy is the elections being fair, any cloud over it has to be immediately,open and completely investigated. Look at the problems caused by the debacle in Florida last time.

Chances of it being investigated are small, it took a public outcry for Nixon to be investigated over Watergate.

True, they are just going to look the other way and make it a non event like it's OK

Its truly a historic moment.

I am sure this is the time when the world realises that America is not all that it is cracked up to be...

If they do not have faith in what we call "fair elections" how can they be expected to have faith in American POlicy?

They can't and they know America can no longer be trusted since our leadership system has obviously become corrupt without a doubt.

Very bad days for All Americans, including myself.

I for one no longer have faith in our our broken system.

Prove it.

Its not a ligitamate election, if it were there would at least be a papertrail. Prove that it was legitamate. Ya can't, so there for it is not.

Nothing will be done about this stolen election unless people get together and do somthing about it.

Which they won't.

SO there's the state of how much American's value there "Freedom".

False dichotamy.

I'm willing to believe that Bush actually won, because when you look at both houses of congress, they're both republican. This means that most people in America want republicans running the show. With that in mind, I find it easy to believe that Bush won the popular vote.

Your assuming the right won the other polls fairly....

Silly rabbits.
If Pres can be jacked what makes ya folks think that the others wouldnt be as well?

Silly rabbits.

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,60563,00.html

how the fuck you think he won it all...

All the Bush supporters on GFY screamed "fair and square" right after the election because nothing was mentioned in the news about any kind of cheating.

I've got news for you... you won't know about the cheating if the person isn't caught... it doesn't mean they weren't cheating.

So yeah... they caught Ohio and Flordia "glitches".... they haven't mentioned other states... it doesn't mean that there weren't "glitches" in those other states too, it just means that there might be, and they haven't been caught... yet.

and while we are at it:

http://www.newbernsj.com/SiteProcess...&Section=Local

Craven County vote totals incorrect in nine precincts
11/4/2004 9:53 AM
By: Associated Press

(NEW BERN) - Vote totals in nine of Craven County's 26 precincts were incorrectly totaled by voting machines, but officials say it shouldn't affect the outcome of any races.

The Sun Journal newspaper reported that totals in the nine precincts were doubled by voting machines.

Elections board director Tiffiney Miller says the glitch involved the machines counting ballots again when absentee votes were added. Miller says the error occurred for each candidate so it shouldn't affect the outcome of any major races.

There is concern about the outcome of one county commissioner race that has a 35-vote difference.

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This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


http://rdu.news14.com/content/top_st...asp?ArID=58237

Election problems due to a software glitch
November 05,2004
Sue Book
Sun Journal

A systems software glitch in Craven County's electronic voting equipment is being blamed for a vote miscount that, when corrected, changed the outcome of at least one race in Tuesday's election.

Then, in the rush to make right the miscalculation that swelled the number of votes for president here by 11,283 more votes than the total number cast, a human mistake further delayed accurate totals for the 40,534 who voted.

The glitch occurred Tuesday night as absentee ballot totals for one-stop early voting at three Craven County locations and ballots mailed-in were being entered, said Tiffiney Miller, Craven County Board of Elections director.

The Elections Systems and Software equipment had downloaded voting information from nine of the county's 26 precincts and as the absentee ballots were added, the precinct totals were added a second time. Precincts affected were Havelock East, Havelock West, River Bend, Cove City, Ernul, Fort Totten, Grover C. Fields, Glenburnie and West New Bern.

An override, like those occurring when one attempts to save a computer file that already exists, is supposed to prevent double counting, but did not function correctly, Miller said.

"I have redone every (personal electronic ballot) completely and am adding the absentees," she said early Thursday. "Every precinct was redone."

The second set of incorrect numbers came when the total for one of the batches of absentee ballots was not included in the first manual recount.

"That's why we have a week before the votes are official, so if we do find problems we can get them straight before the votes are certified," said Miller, who was in her office before 8 a.m. Thursday, hand-crunching the numbers retrieved from the voting machines.

New numbers put incumbent Commissioner Leon Staton in front of Republican challenger Tony Michalek for the Craven County Board of Commissioners District 5 seat. It does not appear that any other local races will be affected as a result of the malfunction, even with the results of about 1,000 provisional votes still to be entered Nov. 9.

Joined by her staff when the Craven County Administration Building opened, Miller already had been discussing the problem and remedies with Craven County Board of Elections Chairman Gloria Stanley, Electronic Systems and Software local representative Owen Andrews and North Carolina State Board of Elections Director Gary Bartlett.

Other than the cranking sound of numbers adding and an occasional ring of the phone, the office was dead quiet as they scrutinized the emerging tapes and hand-posted them on notebooks to be added by hand.

Craven County Commissioner Renee Sisk, a Republican who would be in the new majority on the board with Michalek's election, came by to assess the situation, followed by Craven County Manager Harold Blizzard, then Craven County Republican Party Chairman Steve Tyson, who both came in to inquire about the problem and possible solution. Then a national Republican political consultant who had watched the returns and had some concern that other precincts were involved in the problem entered the office.

Andrews arrived and made contact with the ESS home office in Omaha, Neb.

"What she is dong now is the failsafe way to make sure we get it right," said Andrews, of Owen G. Dunn in New Bern.

"When a voter casts the vote, it stays in the memory of the machine, which has redundancy as a safeguard," he said.

While there is no paper ballot, Andrews said "(Miller) has a paper trail. She can print as many paper vote tallies out of the machine as she'd like."

That information remains in the voting machine until the election is decided and it is deliberately removed.

Andrews will work with the manufacturer, Miller and the elections board to correct the problem to ensure it will not happen again, but said "it really has nothing to do with the integrity of the vote as cast or counted."

"We will produce an honest outcome by the time we canvass Tuesday," said Craven County Board of Elections member Walter Leake, who was one of the last to stop by the elections office Thursday. "The poll books will match the machine."

Election difficulties also were reported in a number of other North Carolina counties, including nearby Carteret, where 4,530 early votes were irretrievably lost.

http://www.newbernsj.com/SiteProcess...&Section=Local

instead of liberals setting down and figuring out what they didn't do or what they did wrong !!
I hope the fuck in four years you're doing the same.

you fucking lost PAIN and simple. get on with life asswipes

why arent you fuckers doing like most of us? Mark your vote with a pen and put the paper in a box.

No coverage on any of the sites or channels that people read or watch.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...tes-lost_x.htm


More than 4,500 North Carolina votes lost because of mistake in voting machine capacity


JACKSONVILLE, N.C. (AP) ? More than 4,500 votes have been lost in one North Carolina county because officials believed a computer that stored ballots electronically could hold more data than it did. Scattered other problems may change results in races around the state.

Officials said UniLect Corp., the maker of the county's electronic voting system, told them that each storage unit could handle 10,500 votes, but the limit was actually 3,005 votes.

Expecting the greater capacity, the county used only one unit during the early voting period. "If we had known, we would have had the units to handle the votes," said Sue Verdon, secretary of the county election board.

Officials said 3,005 early votes were stored, but 4,530 were lost.

Jack Gerbel, president and owner of Dublin, Calif.-based UniLect, said

Thursday that the county's elections board was given incorrect information. There is no way to retrieve the missing data, he said.

"That is the situation and it's definitely terrible," he said.

In a letter to county officials, he blamed the mistake on confusion over which model of the voting machines was in use in Carteret County. But he also noted that the machines flash a warning message when there is no more room for storing ballots.

"Evidently, this message was either ignored or overlooked," he wrote.

County election officials were meeting with State Board of Elections Executive Director Gary Bartlett on Thursday and did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment.

The loss of the votes didn't appear to change the outcome of county races, but that wasn't the issue for Alecia Williams, who voted on one of the final days of the early voting period.

"The point is not whether the votes would have changed things, it's that they didn't get counted at all," Williams said.

Two statewide races remained undecided Thursday, for superintendent of public instruction, where the two candidates are about 6,700 votes apart, and agriculture commissioner, where they are only hundreds of votes apart.

How those two races might be affected by problems in individual counties was uncertain. The state still must tally more than 73,000 provisional ballots, plus those from four counties that have not yet submitted their provisionals, said Johnnie McLean, deputy director of the state elections board.

Nationwide, only scattered problems were reported in electronic voting, though roughly 40 million people cast digital ballots, voting equipment company executives had said.

more to come