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  • Elli
    Reach for those stars!
    • Apr 2003
    • 17991
    #1

    Biz Thread: Do You Re-invest Your Revenue?

    For those of you who make money at this biz, how much do you re-invest back into your business? Say as a percentage of your gross revenue. 10%? 20%? 50%? Or do you cut a cheque to yourself and your people and laugh all the way til the next cheque comes in?

    Note: I don't mean mere business expenses. I mean money you spend expanding your business. ie: new ventures, new advertising, better equipment, etc.

    I'm curious.
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    • Spunky
      I need a beer
      • Jun 2002
      • 133978
      #2
      50% back into advertising

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        • EviLGuY
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2003
          • 12745
          #3
          I'd invest more if there was more to invest in as a free site / tgp type webmaster.

          I'm not afraid to spend money to make it though. I buy a decent amount of traffic every day.. but aside from branching out into paysites or something...

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            • Elli
              Reach for those stars!
              • Apr 2003
              • 17991
              #4
              Originally posted by EviLGuY
              I'd invest more if there was more to invest in as a free site / tgp type webmaster.

              I'm not afraid to spend money to make it though. I buy a decent amount of traffic every day.. but aside from branching out into paysites or something...
              So you buy traffic every day?

              Pardon me, but I am in the dark. Do you run a TGP, or do you mean that you submit to TGP's? If you run one, can't you get better scripts, better designers, logos, branding, advertising, etc, over and above simply throwing traffic at it?
              email: [email protected]

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                • KMR Stitch
                  I am cool
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 14494
                  #5
                  60-70%

                  If you include hardwear.

                  Computers/Networks ect.

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                    • Abyss_Vee
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 5208
                      #6
                      Originally posted by KMR Stitch
                      60-70%

                      If you include hardwear.

                      Computers/Networks ect.

                      hardwear aye.....

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                        • Elli
                          Reach for those stars!
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 17991
                          #7
                          I think it may also depend on how long you have been in this industry or on your current venture. A person just getting into paysites may still be putting out large expenditures for server space, initial traffic floods, etc. It would be awesome if you could include in your answer how long you've been doing what you're doing.
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                            • angelsofporn
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 3218
                              #8
                              way too much

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                                • EviLGuY
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 12745
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Elli
                                  So you buy traffic every day?

                                  Pardon me, but I am in the dark. Do you run a TGP, or do you mean that you submit to TGP's? If you run one, can't you get better scripts, better designers, logos, branding, advertising, etc, over and above simply throwing traffic at it?
                                  I have a few fake TGPs, I have free sites, AVS sites, I submit some galleries.. etc..

                                  I have all the best scripts.. I design my own stuff, I dont need pretty graphics, a ton of content..

                                  Basically all I really have to buy is more traffic, and finding a good source of traffic is hard.. I take all I can get from a couple places, and I do some keyword type stuff on google and overture..

                                  I guess the next step is to branch out and maybe hire someone to build more sitres for me or something. I hate employees though.

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                                    • BradM
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2003
                                      • 3397
                                      #10
                                      I still don't make money.

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                                        • Elli
                                          Reach for those stars!
                                          • Apr 2003
                                          • 17991
                                          #11
                                          Any word from the well-known heavy hitters? Shemp? Sleazy? KRL? quiet? (If you feel you belong in this list but your name is missing, please forgive my remissness).
                                          email: [email protected]

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                                            • WiredGuy
                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 34515
                                              #12
                                              I would say over 80% is put right back into the company. I rarely take out from the company unless there's an urgent need and since corporate taxes are lower than personal, I tend to leave most earnings within the company.

                                              WG
                                              I play with Google.

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                                                • FreeHugeMovies
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                  • 14141
                                                  #13
                                                  I throw everything in the bank, but I don't invest into propery and stocks. I invest back into the business that I know which is adult.

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                                                    • the Shemp
                                                      congrats to the winners
                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                      • 10891
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Elli
                                                      Any word from the well-known heavy hitters? Shemp? Sleazy? KRL? quiet? (If you feel you belong in this list but your name is missing, please forgive my remissness).
                                                      i prepare a detailed business plan each year using projections and trend analysis. this is the first year since 1997, that i did not project a growth factor for our sites. Based on that, this year's plan is based on cutting expenses and maximizing the $$ return/site visitor ratio.

                                                      so based on the above, there was no money allocated for expansion this year. should an opportunity arise though, we would use a portion of our contingency fund, which is approx 11.5% of our revenue...
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                                                        • Elli
                                                          Reach for those stars!
                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                          • 17991
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                          i prepare a detailed business plan each year using projections and trend analysis.
                                                          Excellent info! Thank you Shemp and WiredGuy and FHM!
                                                          email: [email protected]

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                                                            • GTS Mark
                                                              Vrume Mark
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 20912
                                                              #16
                                                              I invest most of my money into real estate now.

                                                              DH

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                                                                • Elli
                                                                  Reach for those stars!
                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 17991
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                                  I invest most of my money into real estate now.

                                                                  DH
                                                                  Showoff
                                                                  email: [email protected]

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                                                                    • cluck
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                      • 5248
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Saving money is a poor persons mentality. My job isn't a webmaster, my job is acquiring money. Keep making it, then reinvesting it, getting more back and spending what's left. The only job a wealthy minded person has is finding more ways to multiply the money they make.

                                                                      Salaries are for suckers.
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                                                                        • Angelie
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                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 1466
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I would say about 45% - 50% Feel brain dead today, so can't give details. Maybe later girlfriend xoxoxo
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                                                                            • the Shemp
                                                                              congrats to the winners
                                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                                              • 10891
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by cluck
                                                                              Saving money is a poor persons mentality. My job isn't a webmaster, my job is acquiring money. Keep making it, then reinvesting it, getting more back and spending what's left. The only job a wealthy minded person has is finding more ways to multiply the money they make.

                                                                              Salaries are for suckers.
                                                                              you are not alone in that philosophy.
                                                                              thats why we have the bankruptcy act.
                                                                              i use Vacares...so should you
                                                                              Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                                                • GTS Mark
                                                                                  Vrume Mark
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 20912
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Elli
                                                                                  Showoff
                                                                                  Don't mean to showoff.

                                                                                  I'm sure there are lots of people here that will be glad to flaunt their porches and bling bling cars. However if the internet crashed today, how many of them would still have those cars after a year.

                                                                                  Worse comes to worse, I have a roof over my head.

                                                                                  DH

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                                                                                    • Smurfette
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                                      • 542
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I invest all our money into Cobras baby - his car, over $5000 in the last month to get it show car ready again this year.

                                                                                      But an intresting thread for ideas, I've been looking for ideas to start investing my money into.


                                                                                      Smurfette

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                                                                                        • cluck
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                          • 5248
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                          you are not alone in that philosophy.
                                                                                          thats why we have the bankruptcy act.
                                                                                          And limited liability. I will NOT be held responsible for any failed actions
                                                                                          icq 279990726
                                                                                          www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

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                                                                                            • the Shemp
                                                                                              congrats to the winners
                                                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                                                              • 10891
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Smurfette
                                                                                              I invest all our money into Cobras baby - his car, over $5000 in the last month to get it show car ready again this year.

                                                                                              But an intresting thread for ideas, I've been looking for ideas to start investing my money into.


                                                                                              Smurfette
                                                                                              post a pic
                                                                                              i use Vacares...so should you
                                                                                              Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                                                                                • Loki
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                                  • 4420
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  i would have to say at least 30-50% gets put back into the biz each month or set aside to hire new designers.

                                                                                                  Some months i slack like holidays and whatnot but generally i am very good about putting back into the company

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                                                                                                    • Furious_Male
                                                                                                      Doing the grind since 99
                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                      • 16884
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I take out a small weekly allowance and put 70%+ back into the business or other investments.
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                                                                                                        • Elli
                                                                                                          Reach for those stars!
                                                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                                                          • 17991
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                                                                          Don't mean to showoff.

                                                                                                          I'm sure there are lots of people here that will be glad to flaunt their porches and bling bling cars. However if the internet crashed today, how many of them would still have those cars after a year.

                                                                                                          Worse comes to worse, I have a roof over my head.

                                                                                                          DH
                                                                                                          That's very true. All our vehicles are ours, paid in full. I wish I could say the same for the house, but at least the property value has gone up 60k$ since we bought it, so we won't be out the interest. Now that my audit is paid off, I'm hoping to throw some money back into my own site in a serious way and see what I can make happen.

                                                                                                          It's great seeing how the real business people run their businesses. Thanks everyone for the feedback!
                                                                                                          email: [email protected]

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                                                                                                            • buddyjuf
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              lately I have been trying to "save" 80-90% of my profit
                                                                                                              my bank account has never been bigger and I plan on starting a big investment soon

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                                                                                                                • WiredGuy
                                                                                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                  • 34515
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Elli
                                                                                                                  Now that my audit is paid off, I'm hoping to throw some money back into my own site in a serious way and see what I can make happen.
                                                                                                                  How bad did the CCRA nail you? I've been fighting mine for nearly 6-8 months now.

                                                                                                                  WG
                                                                                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                                                                                    • Elli
                                                                                                                      Reach for those stars!
                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                      • 17991
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                      How bad did the CCRA nail you? I've been fighting mine for nearly 6-8 months now.

                                                                                                                      WG
                                                                                                                      I fought for over a year, and got them to knock 10K$ off their original asking price. So it came out to 21K$ with interest for 1999 and 2000.

                                                                                                                      I'm just SO glad it's over. What a stress!
                                                                                                                      email: [email protected]

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                                                                                                                        • WiredGuy
                                                                                                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                          • 34515
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Elli
                                                                                                                          I fought for over a year, and got them to knock 10K$ off their original asking price. So it came out to 21K$ with interest for 1999 and 2000.

                                                                                                                          I'm just SO glad it's over. What a stress!

                                                                                                                          Yup, my stress levels the last few weeks because of them is through the roof. Once I got my lawyers/accountants involved, they seem to be backing off, I've managed to get their asking amount slashed by nearly 65%. I just can't wait until this is all over with.

                                                                                                                          WG
                                                                                                                          I play with Google.

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                                                                                                                            • futureSE
                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                              • 26
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              hey guys!

                                                                                                                              Well what we do here is
                                                                                                                              reinvest around 10-15% of our revenue into the current internet business, Suprisingly our internet business requires very little reinvestment


                                                                                                                              the rest goes into purchasing money producing assets, such as offline business, real estate.

                                                                                                                              Internet is great at stuffing money into your investment properties.
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                                                                                                                                • irishfury
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 2611
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I do the same I put about 50% back in though I also make new report every year with estimates and any market that I am in I do a market segmentation report and collect as much info as I can on possible trends that could effect the future outcome....
                                                                                                                                  Trust no one there all snakes

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                                                                                                                                    • Elli
                                                                                                                                      Reach for those stars!
                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 17991
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Those of you who do detailed analysis reports, do you create them yourselves, or give the numbers to someone else to process?
                                                                                                                                      email: [email protected]

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                                                                                                                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 40377
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Great thread, bump
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                                                                                                                                            • slapass
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 14625
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I am with DH. I invest outside the internet. I buy real estae and I am now looking at a business. I just don't see my niche of the internet as being there forever.

                                                                                                                                              I do not do any growth projections as so far i had no idea it was going anywhere. I just try to keep making money and moving it to safer havens.

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                                                                                                                                                • Arousal Design
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 1358
                                                                                                                                                  #37
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                                                                                                                                                    • beemk
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 20829
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      i reinvest it into real estate. i spend about 5k in advertising a month but it just goes on my credit card and gets paid off at the end of the month. i usually use 1/3 of my checks to pay off all my bills and invest the rest in real estate.
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                                                                                                                                                        • Basic_man
                                                                                                                                                          Programming King Pin
                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 27360
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by EviLGuY
                                                                                                                                                          I have a few fake TGPs, I have free sites, AVS sites, I submit some galleries.. etc..

                                                                                                                                                          I have all the best scripts.. I design my own stuff, I dont need pretty graphics, a ton of content..

                                                                                                                                                          Basically all I really have to buy is more traffic, and finding a good source of traffic is hard.. I take all I can get from a couple places, and I do some keyword type stuff on google and overture..

                                                                                                                                                          I guess the next step is to branch out and maybe hire someone to build more sitres for me or something. I hate employees though.
                                                                                                                                                          I am a good employee :D
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                                                                                                                                                            • aaron
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 4452
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by cluck
                                                                                                                                                              Saving money is a poor persons mentality. My job isn't a webmaster, my job is acquiring money. Keep making it, then reinvesting it, getting more back and spending what's left. The only job a wealthy minded person has is finding more ways to multiply the money they make.

                                                                                                                                                              Salaries are for suckers.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Xenophage
                                                                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 12122
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  well givin our crazy $60 payouts way way too much LOL

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                                                                                                                                                                    • KRL
                                                                                                                                                                      Entrepreneur
                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 31429
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Babagirls
                                                                                                                                                                          Text Writer
                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 18812
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          you gotta spend money to make money. i'd probably say about 30% or so for myself.




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                                                                                                                                                                            • Sosa
                                                                                                                                                                              In Tushy Land
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 40149
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              around 75% of my monthly earnings stay in the corporation. The rest pays the rent, food, car payment etc.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • xclusive
                                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 35218
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  I try and put %80 back into the company but month to month things change once a month I sit down and plan for what i'll need for the month...

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                                      lurker
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      the year pay all of it when back in to the biz . Now I would say 25% , if something stops growing it starts dying.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Nicky
                                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 30071
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          I invest maybe 10% back.....I really should invest more.....

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • SureFire
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 4398
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                                                                                                                                                              Don't mean to showoff.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm sure there are lots of people here that will be glad to flaunt their porches and bling bling cars. However if the internet crashed today, how many of them would still have those cars after a year.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Worse comes to worse, I have a roof over my head.

                                                                                                                                                                                              DH
                                                                                                                                                                                              Wise words.

                                                                                                                                                                                              From this avenue of income, I probably invest 60/40.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Kick Ass Chat
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 2057
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's all relative, 25% of ones persons money is different then 25% of someone elses money.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 69pornlinks
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 5560
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      worse comes to worst i can always move cakes
                                                                                                                                                                                                      It IS what it IS

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