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  • Spudstr
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2003
    • 2321

    #1

    epoch/paycom or ccbill

    Alright guys webmasters which ones do you prefer?

    and or any reps with processors please contact me on icq or my email.

    thankss
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  • AdultMegaCash
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2004
    • 1017

    #2
    Depends what you are mainly looking to do? If running affiliates with them as well, ccbill has a very nice set up.
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    • hentchiu
      Confirmed User
      • May 2005
      • 199

      #3
      CCBILL by far has a nice web interface...better than paycom

      but i heard paycom approves a bit more.... still testing

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      • Beaver Bob
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2005
        • 1099

        #4
        ccbill is the industry leader. by far and their staff is really helpful.
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        • solonline
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2003
          • 718

          #5
          Both of them = Nats = Cascade

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          • Vitasoy
            GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
            • Oct 2003
            • 58202

            #6
            Use both, best of both worlds


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            • basschick
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2001
              • 2540

              #7
              i agree that both is your best choice, but if you wanna start with one...

              if your main concern is getting affiliates, ccbill is probably your best bet. they allow webmasters to marry all their account together into 1 check, which is very appealing to european webmasters. also ccbill is a little easier to set up, and more affiliates are familiar with how to set up links through them.

              on the other hand, if you want to have cross sales on your join page that are deals like getting paid $15 on a $1 signup, paycom is the way to go. and btw, paycom is now showing hits info in their stats. and with epoch/paycom, you get rand to help you out if you need it - he rocks ;) paycom is also offers a lot more setup options (although figuring them out without talking to support wasn't easy) and if you use your data dump, you will have a world of info at your fingertips.
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              • aico
                Moo Moo Cow
                • Mar 2004
                • 14748

                #8
                I use paycom... have had no problems.

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                • Marshal
                  Biz Dev and SEO
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 15223

                  #9
                  i prefer paycom, definitely!
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                  • Spudstr
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2321

                    #10
                    well depending on how much longer i wait till i launch nats might be an option don't really feel like shelling otu 1500 bucks for setup :-/ how reliable are webmasters on home grown solutions? i have 3 years experiance coding mainstream affiliate systems so pulling one together myself wouldn't be an issue. though having a ccbill option for webmasters for the all in one check method is an idea also.
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                    • Screaming
                      I can change this!!!!!
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 18972

                      #11
                      paycom hands down

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                      • Spudstr
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2321

                        #12
                        bump for day crew
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                        • Rand
                          Industry Vet
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 2663

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Spudstr
                          Alright guys webmasters which ones do you prefer?

                          and or any reps with processors please contact me on icq or my email.

                          thankss
                          Spudstr,

                          I'm out of town on personal business until the Monday after Thanksgiving. But, if you would like to see if we are a good fit for each other, please drop us a line at [email protected]. Please put "Spudstr / GFY" in the subject line and we will be in touch.

                          I'll be back on the grid after Thanksgiving.
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                          • directfiesta
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 30150

                            #14
                            I cannot say about CCbill, since I do not use them.

                            But Paycom, that I use, has been very stable.

                            Support has been great, mainly from a certain Busola ( or Busala... ).
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                            • sonofsam
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 18647

                              #15
                              go with paycom
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                              • Major (Tom)
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 32492

                                #16
                                you need both...

                                Plus you need a solid casgade script like nats.
                                I recomend amanda gross for paycom and andy keifer for ccbill.
                                each one will treat you like they are your children. I have nothing but great suppot from each. as far as nats goes, there is really nothing better i can say that hasnt been said already. These guys are simply phenominal. They are they best. Hit me up if you need contact info for each. (paycom) (ccbil) (nats).
                                Duke

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                                • Major (Tom)
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 32492

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sonofsam
                                  go with paycom

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                                  Duke

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                                  • gecko
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                                    • Jun 2002
                                    • 21846

                                    #18
                                    If I can only pick one.. paycom
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                                    • aico
                                      Moo Moo Cow
                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 14748

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                      you need both...

                                      Plus you need a solid casgade script like nats.
                                      I recomend amanda gross for paycom and andy keifer for ccbill.
                                      each one will treat you like they are your children. I have nothing but great suppot from each. as far as nats goes, there is really nothing better i can say that hasnt been said already. These guys are simply phenominal. They are they best. Hit me up if you need contact info for each. (paycom) (ccbil) (nats).
                                      Duke
                                      This is what I never understood. Why do you need both? Makes no sense to me. I am pretty sure (although I could be wrong), that since both Paycom and CCBill are reputable and good companies, and neither would want to lose their Visa processing that they both scrub transactions with the same or close to the same standards. So if one card doesn't get approved with Paycom, I would assume there is probably a 90 - 95% chance it won't get approved with CCBill either, and vice versa. Doesn't make sense to me why you would need or want both.

                                      I personally think that Cascading is just something everyone "thinks" they need because someone told them they did. "Because they told me I needed it" seems to run rampant in this biz (ie. "Blogs").

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                                      • Major (Tom)
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 32492

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by aico
                                        This is what I never understood. Why do you need both? Makes no sense to me. I am pretty sure (although I could be wrong), that since both Paycom and CCBill are reputable and good companies, and neither would want to lose their Visa processing that they both scrub transactions with the same or close to the same standards. So if one card doesn't get approved with Paycom, I would assume there is probably a 90 - 95% chance it won't get approved with CCBill either, and vice versa. Doesn't make sense to me why you would need or want both.

                                        I personally think that Cascading is just something everyone "thinks" they need because someone told them they did. "Because they told me I needed it" seems to run rampant in this biz (ie. "Blogs").


                                        All about the eggs in one basket.. you need to learn that quick. Look into my virtual car too. I split my members up to a different % each month.

                                        Thats how you stay in business! always look to have enough per biller to pay 3 months of affilate payouts. this way if you loose they dont.
                                        Cheers
                                        Duke
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                                        • Theprincipal
                                          Registered User
                                          • Oct 2005
                                          • 80

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by aico
                                          This is what I never understood. Why do you need both? Makes no sense to me. I am pretty sure (although I could be wrong), that since both Paycom and CCBill are reputable and good companies, and neither would want to lose their Visa processing that they both scrub transactions with the same or close to the same standards. So if one card doesn't get approved with Paycom, I would assume there is probably a 90 - 95% chance it won't get approved with CCBill either, and vice versa. Doesn't make sense to me why you would need or want both.

                                          I personally think that Cascading is just something everyone "thinks" they need because someone told them they did. "Because they told me I needed it" seems to run rampant in this biz (ie. "Blogs").

                                          One word for you...... Ibill
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                                          • Major (Tom)
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 32492

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Theprincipal
                                            One word for you...... Ibill
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                                            Duke

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                                            • abz
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 4498

                                              #23
                                              I don't have any problems with CCBill.

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                                              • Fetish
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2005
                                                • 823

                                                #24
                                                If you are just starting out, use CCbill for memberships and Netbilling if you are going to sell products. Once you build up enough volume to get your own merchant account (if it is memberships you are indeed selling), have Netbilling get yu a merchant account for that too and you will be golden.

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                                                • Morgan
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 10520

                                                  #25
                                                  both dude
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                                                  • Major (Tom)
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 32492

                                                    #26
                                                    you need both bottom line..
                                                    if anyone tells you different i have a bridge in brooklyn im auctioning off later this week.


                                                    Duke

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                                                    • thewebgarage
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 1002

                                                      #27
                                                      get both and cascade
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                                                      • webmeister
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                        • 69

                                                        #28
                                                        You might want to consider Ibill. They have the lowest rates in the industry under 10%. They have had some trouble paying on time, but they say this will eventually change and they will get current again. Also GKard doesn't accept Discover credit card, so you will be losing all those transactions as well.

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                                                        • Dalai lama
                                                          Strength and Honor
                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 16540

                                                          #29
                                                          We use Paycom, going to switch to both in 2006.

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                                                          • bigdog
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                            • 6964

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by webmeister
                                                            You might want to consider Ibill. They have the lowest rates in the industry under 10%. They have had some trouble paying on time, but they say this will eventually change and they will get current again. Also GKard doesn't accept Discover credit card, so you will be losing all those transactions as well.
                                                            ibill you have to be kidding me

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                                                            • KingK7
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                              • 6372

                                                              #31
                                                              We use both, have to say I prefer Paycom though

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                                                              • Zprogramz
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                • 1360

                                                                #32
                                                                Netbilling as primary and CCbill or Paycom as a backup just in case. You wikll save money that way and get better conversions by far.

                                                                Z

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                                                                • 1orglaugh
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                  • 77

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by webmeister
                                                                  You might want to consider Ibill.

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