Gay marriage a big issue. Why ???

Marriage is a joke to begin with.

A pedophile priest says words in front of 2 people and wham - bonded "forever".

It's all part of the smoke and mirrors that prove we've been lied to with the concept of FREEDOM.

Freedom of choice (as long as they're the choices your leaders approve of).

Freedom of speech (just watch what you say).


The system must change from the level of the people, but too many people are too wrapped up in Jerry Springer and the like to care too much. They can buy some beer to soften the blow and that's good enough for them.

Land of the free hehe.

Another 4 years and the countries like Russia will be more "free" than the US.

ironic that most of the support for the ban on gay marriage comes from the so-called Democratic base:

Blacks
Elderly
Blue Collar
Hispanics

The born agains are the easy target but they alone did not determine the huge numbers that voted against this

To my knowledge it's alot more complex then just a moral aspect.

There are issues like social security and taxes.

Personally I don't really care either way, however in the event that they are allowed to marry I don't think they should ever be allowed to have children

That's it. That's all that matters to the religious mob. They think they have the final word from God, and no amount of rational debate or pleading for tolerance will appeal to them.

I disagree, marriage is a good thing. Many ppl are truly happy living their "normal" lives. Not everyone wants too much freedom - I mean many ppl are happy with their 9-5 jobs and a wife + 2 kids.

You better get them hitched because there the ones spreading the Aids ...... I know you didn't mean it that way .... but it sounds homophobic ...

gay issues is not a big issue for me.... hello were on a new century now, we can do whatever we want to do, we have our own free will

You have proof of this?

"But there is little racial divide over gay marriage. Both whites and blacks oppose gay marriage by roughly two-to-one _ most Hispanics also oppose the idea, but by a smaller margin (51% to 36%). "

"Even this youngest group of Americans do not, on balance, favor this idea; rather, they are divided. But that is in stark contrast to people in their forties and fifties, where twice as many oppose gay marriage as favor it. Among those in their sixties and seventies, opposition outnumbers support by as much as four-to-one"

http://pewforum.org/docs/index.php?DocID=39

I don't understand it.. IMO I don't see a problem with gay people getting married. I think it's just another form of discrimination but instead of by race it's discrimination by sexual preference.

If they can't get married then why not a civil union? Seems that was voted down in most places too. I think the problem is how our country is set up.

If you look at the big cities most voted for Kerry and don't have a issue with gay people. People in cities are naturally more progressive than those in the surrounding areas in the "heartland".

America is just like any other country but just much bigger than most. The cities have the biggest populations bases but the rural areas area spread far and wide. People in the rural areas are normally more religious, set in there ways and less likely to be open for change. This is the same in any county from what I can see. Just in America we seem to have a lot of them because the country is so big.

I bet if you went to Russia and traveled around out in the rural areas.. You would also find the people were less likely to accept change. However I'm sure if you go to Moscow the average person would be more progressive thinking.

Cause it states in the bible ....many christian people believe gay marriage is just wrong

And I respectfully disagree right back.

The happiness you speak of in many cases is an illusion. Like the grass being greener elsewhere.

Watch people when you go out into the world. Read the police log section of the newspaper. Many folks portraying the illusion of happiness are involved in spousal and child abuse, drinking themselves to death, overeating, etc..

Go drive in traffic or go to a mall or something.. People are leaning on their horns, waving their arms and going nuts behind the wheel of a car. People are openly screaming at each other, their "significant other" or kids right out in public. Such anger certainly doesn't stem from genuine happiness.

I think it was 2 days ago, I was at a gas station and there was this guy (with his wife in the passenger seat) beating the hell out of his kid because the child wouldn't put a book down. The wife was screaming at the kid too (instead of the husband) using profanity and really letting go with the rage. The kid couldn't have been more than 6 years old.

I do agree that there ARE *some* people genuinely pulling it off... But way too people in marriages with kids aren't fit to be in such a situation because they don't have their own demons sorted out as individuals. Bringing others into the situation only makes matters worse because they're seeking happiness from outside themselves which is the way they were shown it was done by their parents (who were likely the same way).

Anywho.. back to the subject. Marry who you wanna marry. Just don't do it because "everyone else is doing it".

That is my belief.

maybe they should pursue equal rights for civil unions rather then trying to redefine a word. they could have that easily but they want to prove the point that minorities can do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it.

I meant, do you have proof that the elderly are typically Democratic?

what do the same people think about porn?

They're just upset because the same chapter says they are condemned for wearing cotton/polyester, eating shrimp and having peas and carrots in the same garden so they have to spread the misery

It offends the "moral majority". Plain and simple.

Hopefully, nobody here is disillusioned to think they are part of the moral majority, simply by the fact we all work in the adult entertainment industry.

The moral majority are those that have the house, picket fence, 2 +1/2 kids, go to church every Sunday because it reinforces that "I'm better than those who don't go to church" feeling, who don't live near a coastline or mountains (look at polling results based on geography for this one), etc. The moral majority are simple, closed-minded people who want / need to be told what to do, how to act, what is right and wrong and what to believe in. This moral majority also outnumber the rest of us, which is why we see such legislation get enacted.

Why not?

gay marriage is big deal coz of religion and moral issue stuff.

At one time Interracial marriage wasnt allowed in this country, and that was in the 1960's.......

Anyone that loves someone else should be allowed to marry them. Marriage is a great thing and we all should try it on for size.

If more people said fuck this shit and took a stand, there would a difference. Keep taking the shit thats's shoveled your way and nothing will change.