Originally posted by 12clicks I'd ask you to provide proof but that would be like asking you to prove the earth is flat.
It's a matter of public record. You can provide yourself with the "proof" you need...or didn't you bother to research your boy before you cast your lot with him?
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Originally posted by pine It's a matter of public record. You can provide yourself with the "proof" you need...or didn't you bother to research your boy before you cast your lot with him?
pretending "its a matter of public record" is childish.
how about you go out to the public record and rub my nose in it.
I'll wait.
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
Originally posted by 12clicks pretending "its a matter of public record" is childish.
how about you go out to the public record and rub my nose in it.
I'll wait.
Sorry to keep you waiting so long. Overnight shift at the drive-thru window...you know how it is, right?
++++++++ Oil and Gas Industry
What They Gave: In the 2000 election cycle, the oil and gas industry contributed over $26.5 million to Republicans, and over $1.8 million to George W. Bush's election campaign. 2000 Pioneer and longtime Bush associate Don Evans, former chairman of the oil company Tom Brown Inc., was appointed Secretary of the Commerce Department. At least a dozen industry officials were named to the transition teams at the Energy and Interior departments as well as the Environmental Protection Agency. [Center for Responsive Politics, www.crp.org; Bush's Campaign Ads...Brought To You By Special Interests, Public Citizen, 3/04]
What They Got: Bush Proposed Opening the Arctic Refuge and National Parks to Oil Companies. Bush said he advocated drilling in the environmentally sensitive Alaskan National Wildlife Reserve (ANWR). Bush also supports oil and gas drilling in protected national parks monuments and public lands in the Rocky Mountains. [Seattle Post Intelligencer, 12/24/03; LA Times, 12/24/03; Denver Post, 3/15/01; WP, 4/18/02; AP, 3/29/01]
American Petroleum Institute Gave "Wish List" To Energy Task Force. Nine days before Bush's inauguration, energy industry lobbyists gathered in the American Petroleum Institute's offices to make a "wish list" for the Bush energy plan. The list was forwarded to the Bush energy transition team, and eventually to the energy task force. According to the Washington Post, "A first review of the 11,000 pages of documents bolsters the contention of Democratic lawmakers and environmental groups that the Bush administration relied almost exclusively on the advice of executives from utilities and producers of oil, gas, coal and nuclear energy while a White House task force drafted recommendations that would vastly increase energy production." [Newsweek, 5/10/01; New York Times, 5/10/01; 5/20/01; USA Today, 5/14/01; ABC News, World News Tonight, 5/22/01; Washington Post, 5/17/01, 3/26/02]
Halliburton/Kellogg, Brown & Root
What They Gave: Cheney Made Millions As Halliburton CEO, And Still Retains "Lingering" Financial Interest. Vice President Dick Cheney was CEO of Texas-based Halliburton from 1995-2000. In addition to providing a massive salary and bonus for just eight months of work in 2000, Halliburton's board of directors voted to give Cheney a $20 million retirement package when he resigned. In his retirement package from Halliburton, Cheney was granted deferred compensation, which paid out his bonus his salary from 1999 over a five year period and his bonus from that year in 2001. In 2001, while serving as Vice President, Cheney received over $1.6 million in deferred compensation from Halliburton, which included a bonus worth over $1.4 million and over $200,000 in deferred salary. In 2002, Cheney received over $160,000 in deferred salary compensation. Cheney received the severance package even though he had only been with the company for five years and his contract stated that he would have to forfeit some of his retirement package if he retired before turning 62 -- retired at age 59.
Cheney's compensation for the eight months of 2000 he served as CEO of Halliburton, according to the Associated Press, was "$4.3 million in deferred compensation and bonuses, and $806,332 in salary." Furthermore, following his departure from Halliburton, Cheney retained possession of 433,333 options of Halliburton stock that were set to expire at three different times. Despite Cheney's insistence that he severed his financial ties to Halliburton, the Congressional Research Service released a report saying that federal ethics laws consider both Cheney's deferred compensation and his unexercised stock options as a lingering financial interest in the company. [Richard Cheney Public Financial Disclosure, 9/6/00; 5/15/01; White House Press Release, "Vice President and Mrs. Cheney Release 2000 Income Tax Return," 4/13/01; "Income: Type and amount," Schedule A, Standard Form 278, Richard B. Cheney Personal Financial Disclosure, May 15, 2002; May 15, 2003; NY Times, 8/12/00; LA Times, 7/24/00; AP, 7/18/02; Washington Post, 9/26/03]
What They Got: Halliburton Received Open-Ended Contract to Assist in Rebuilding Iraqi Oil Fields. In March 2003, the Pentagon awarded Halliburton's construction wing, Kellogg Brown and Root, a no-bid contract to help rebuild Iraqi oil fields after a possible war there, including advice on putting out oil well fires. The Army Corps of Engineers said that Halliburton's compensation for rejuvenating Iraq's oil industry could be up to $7 billion. In postwar Iraq, Halliburton is the largest private contractor, with potential deals totaling over $11 billion. [San Francisco Chronicle, 3/8/03; Ottawa Citizen, 3/7/03; WSJ, 3/7/03; NY Times, 4/11/03; AP, 11/5/03]
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Originally posted by pine Sorry to keep you waiting so long. Overnight shift at the drive-thru window...you know how it is, right?
++++++++ Oil and Gas Industry
What They Gave: In the 2000 election cycle, the oil and gas industry contributed over $26.5 million to Republicans, and over $1.8 million to George W. Bush's election campaign. 2000 Pioneer and longtime Bush associate Don Evans, former chairman of the oil company Tom Brown Inc., was appointed Secretary of the Commerce Department. At least a dozen industry officials were named to the transition teams at the Energy and Interior departments as well as the Environmental Protection Agency. [Center for Responsive Politics, www.crp.org; Bush's Campaign Ads...Brought To You By Special Interests, Public Citizen, 3/04]
What They Got: Bush Proposed Opening the Arctic Refuge and National Parks to Oil Companies. Bush said he advocated drilling in the environmentally sensitive Alaskan National Wildlife Reserve (ANWR). Bush also supports oil and gas drilling in protected national parks monuments and public lands in the Rocky Mountains. [Seattle Post Intelligencer, 12/24/03; LA Times, 12/24/03; Denver Post, 3/15/01; WP, 4/18/02; AP, 3/29/01]
American Petroleum Institute Gave "Wish List" To Energy Task Force. Nine days before Bush's inauguration, energy industry lobbyists gathered in the American Petroleum Institute's offices to make a "wish list" for the Bush energy plan. The list was forwarded to the Bush energy transition team, and eventually to the energy task force. According to the Washington Post, "A first review of the 11,000 pages of documents bolsters the contention of Democratic lawmakers and environmental groups that the Bush administration relied almost exclusively on the advice of executives from utilities and producers of oil, gas, coal and nuclear energy while a White House task force drafted recommendations that would vastly increase energy production." [Newsweek, 5/10/01; New York Times, 5/10/01; 5/20/01; USA Today, 5/14/01; ABC News, World News Tonight, 5/22/01; Washington Post, 5/17/01, 3/26/02]
Halliburton/Kellogg, Brown & Root
What They Gave: Cheney Made Millions As Halliburton CEO, And Still Retains "Lingering" Financial Interest. Vice President Dick Cheney was CEO of Texas-based Halliburton from 1995-2000. In addition to providing a massive salary and bonus for just eight months of work in 2000, Halliburton's board of directors voted to give Cheney a $20 million retirement package when he resigned. In his retirement package from Halliburton, Cheney was granted deferred compensation, which paid out his bonus his salary from 1999 over a five year period and his bonus from that year in 2001. In 2001, while serving as Vice President, Cheney received over $1.6 million in deferred compensation from Halliburton, which included a bonus worth over $1.4 million and over $200,000 in deferred salary. In 2002, Cheney received over $160,000 in deferred salary compensation. Cheney received the severance package even though he had only been with the company for five years and his contract stated that he would have to forfeit some of his retirement package if he retired before turning 62 -- retired at age 59.
Cheney's compensation for the eight months of 2000 he served as CEO of Halliburton, according to the Associated Press, was "$4.3 million in deferred compensation and bonuses, and $806,332 in salary." Furthermore, following his departure from Halliburton, Cheney retained possession of 433,333 options of Halliburton stock that were set to expire at three different times. Despite Cheney's insistence that he severed his financial ties to Halliburton, the Congressional Research Service released a report saying that federal ethics laws consider both Cheney's deferred compensation and his unexercised stock options as a lingering financial interest in the company. [Richard Cheney Public Financial Disclosure, 9/6/00; 5/15/01; White House Press Release, "Vice President and Mrs. Cheney Release 2000 Income Tax Return," 4/13/01; "Income: Type and amount," Schedule A, Standard Form 278, Richard B. Cheney Personal Financial Disclosure, May 15, 2002; May 15, 2003; NY Times, 8/12/00; LA Times, 7/24/00; AP, 7/18/02; Washington Post, 9/26/03]
What They Got: Halliburton Received Open-Ended Contract to Assist in Rebuilding Iraqi Oil Fields. In March 2003, the Pentagon awarded Halliburton's construction wing, Kellogg Brown and Root, a no-bid contract to help rebuild Iraqi oil fields after a possible war there, including advice on putting out oil well fires. The Army Corps of Engineers said that Halliburton's compensation for rejuvenating Iraq's oil industry could be up to $7 billion. In postwar Iraq, Halliburton is the largest private contractor, with potential deals totaling over $11 billion. [San Francisco Chronicle, 3/8/03; Ottawa Citizen, 3/7/03; WSJ, 3/7/03; NY Times, 4/11/03; AP, 11/5/03]
you realize he will blow this off and just keep with the insults right?
Originally posted by pine Sorry to keep you waiting so long. Overnight shift at the drive-thru window...you know how it is, right?
++++++++ Oil and Gas Industry
What They Gave: In the 2000 election cycle, the oil and gas industry contributed over $26.5 million to Republicans, and over $1.8 million to George W. Bush's election campaign. 2000 Pioneer and longtime Bush associate Don Evans, former chairman of the oil company Tom Brown Inc., was appointed Secretary of the Commerce Department. At least a dozen industry officials were named to the transition teams at the Energy and Interior departments as well as the Environmental Protection Agency. [Center for Responsive Politics, www.crp.org; Bush's Campaign Ads...Brought To You By Special Interests, Public Citizen, 3/04]
What They Got: Bush Proposed Opening the Arctic Refuge and National Parks to Oil Companies. Bush said he advocated drilling in the environmentally sensitive Alaskan National Wildlife Reserve (ANWR). Bush also supports oil and gas drilling in protected national parks monuments and public lands in the Rocky Mountains. [Seattle Post Intelligencer, 12/24/03; LA Times, 12/24/03; Denver Post, 3/15/01; WP, 4/18/02; AP, 3/29/01]
American Petroleum Institute Gave "Wish List" To Energy Task Force. Nine days before Bush's inauguration, energy industry lobbyists gathered in the American Petroleum Institute's offices to make a "wish list" for the Bush energy plan. The list was forwarded to the Bush energy transition team, and eventually to the energy task force. According to the Washington Post, "A first review of the 11,000 pages of documents bolsters the contention of Democratic lawmakers and environmental groups that the Bush administration relied almost exclusively on the advice of executives from utilities and producers of oil, gas, coal and nuclear energy while a White House task force drafted recommendations that would vastly increase energy production." [Newsweek, 5/10/01; New York Times, 5/10/01; 5/20/01; USA Today, 5/14/01; ABC News, World News Tonight, 5/22/01; Washington Post, 5/17/01, 3/26/02]
Halliburton/Kellogg, Brown & Root
What They Gave: Cheney Made Millions As Halliburton CEO, And Still Retains "Lingering" Financial Interest. Vice President Dick Cheney was CEO of Texas-based Halliburton from 1995-2000. In addition to providing a massive salary and bonus for just eight months of work in 2000, Halliburton's board of directors voted to give Cheney a $20 million retirement package when he resigned. In his retirement package from Halliburton, Cheney was granted deferred compensation, which paid out his bonus his salary from 1999 over a five year period and his bonus from that year in 2001. In 2001, while serving as Vice President, Cheney received over $1.6 million in deferred compensation from Halliburton, which included a bonus worth over $1.4 million and over $200,000 in deferred salary. In 2002, Cheney received over $160,000 in deferred salary compensation. Cheney received the severance package even though he had only been with the company for five years and his contract stated that he would have to forfeit some of his retirement package if he retired before turning 62 -- retired at age 59.
Cheney's compensation for the eight months of 2000 he served as CEO of Halliburton, according to the Associated Press, was "$4.3 million in deferred compensation and bonuses, and $806,332 in salary." Furthermore, following his departure from Halliburton, Cheney retained possession of 433,333 options of Halliburton stock that were set to expire at three different times. Despite Cheney's insistence that he severed his financial ties to Halliburton, the Congressional Research Service released a report saying that federal ethics laws consider both Cheney's deferred compensation and his unexercised stock options as a lingering financial interest in the company. [Richard Cheney Public Financial Disclosure, 9/6/00; 5/15/01; White House Press Release, "Vice President and Mrs. Cheney Release 2000 Income Tax Return," 4/13/01; "Income: Type and amount," Schedule A, Standard Form 278, Richard B. Cheney Personal Financial Disclosure, May 15, 2002; May 15, 2003; NY Times, 8/12/00; LA Times, 7/24/00; AP, 7/18/02; Washington Post, 9/26/03]
What They Got: Halliburton Received Open-Ended Contract to Assist in Rebuilding Iraqi Oil Fields. In March 2003, the Pentagon awarded Halliburton's construction wing, Kellogg Brown and Root, a no-bid contract to help rebuild Iraqi oil fields after a possible war there, including advice on putting out oil well fires. The Army Corps of Engineers said that Halliburton's compensation for rejuvenating Iraq's oil industry could be up to $7 billion. In postwar Iraq, Halliburton is the largest private contractor, with potential deals totaling over $11 billion. [San Francisco Chronicle, 3/8/03; Ottawa Citizen, 3/7/03; WSJ, 3/7/03; NY Times, 4/11/03; AP, 11/5/03]
this is your public record of Bush being a hand puppet to big oil and war profiteers?
ahahahahaha.
son, here in the real world (you know, outside of mommy's house) we want the president meeting with the top people in the energy business when making enery policy. I';m sure you'd rasther have michael moore at that meeting but thats what makes you a kerry supporter.
As far as your idiot position that Halliburton gave this administration money because it paid Dick Cheney the money it owed them as compensation for his being their CEO, I guess living with mommy has never given you the life experience of how big business works.
Halliburton has been America's contractor of choice since WWII to handle all the war time contracting the military can't or doesn't want to do.
I'm sure we can find your posts screaming "Halliburton" when Clinton was paying them billions for their work in the balkans, right smart guy?
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
Originally posted by WicKed NinJas you realize he will blow this off and just keep with the insults right?
son, I know you've only been around about a yr but guessing what your betters are going to do will only make you look silly.
next time you want to make a witty post, have mommy proof read it for content.
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
Extreme/gonzo porn content aside, the Miller v. California standard for porn would have to be either SERIOUSLY limited or overturned for currently legal porn to become illegal. Even the conservatives on the Court are quite big on the First Amendment (esp re political speech/commercial speech). So the "crackdown'" probably not gonna come from the courts.
There are easier way to 'crack down' on porn--attack it under the guise of 'protecting the consumer' --example: Mr. Consumer signs up for 'free porn' and gets cross-sold to two other programs, now he's got recurring credit card charges. Regulators could always say this was 'unconscionable' and rises to the level of deceptive practice.
Another approach is "protecting children" Again... this has met very limited success under constitutional review. Still, there's many ways, IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO, skin the adult industry cat.
Originally posted by scoreman Republican House
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If the adult industry is your bread and butter there is reason to be concerned. Start making plans to make conservative plays like establishing offshore billing, make sure your 2257 work gets finalized and be very careful in what niches you choose to market. Now is the time to start planning for a nasty storm that is likely coming within the next four years.
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