the election in the US was about christianity vs non christianity.

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  • Xenophage
    Registered User
    • Oct 2001
    • 12122

    #1

    the election in the US was about christianity vs non christianity.

    If you were a christian your church told you that god likes bush because god is against gays and against abortion. Porn is a sin too ! There are simply more christians in america than non christians.
  • Slick
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2001
    • 7338

    #2
    Excellent points there. It's pretty bad when the bun runners can put who they want in office rather than making the right choice as to who can actually run the country.

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    • 12clicks
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      • Jan 2001
      • 19814

      #3
      Originally posted by LegendaryLars
      If you were a christian your church told you that god likes bush because god is against gays and against abortion. Porn is a sin too ! There are simply more christians in america than non christians.
      Gee, I think if you go into the inner city and tell the millions of black voters for kerry that they aren't christian, they might beat you right out of those funky shirts you wear.
      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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      • Basic_man
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        • Oct 2003
        • 27360

        #4
        It would probably have played a big part in this election !
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        • Danny_C
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          • Feb 2002
          • 2160

          #5
          Originally posted by 12clicks
          Gee, I think if you go into the inner city and tell the millions of black voters for kerry that they aren't christian, they might beat you right out of those funky shirts you wear.
          You seem to enjoy willfully ignoring the points people are making.

          I hope I live to see the day when mankind evolves, and can finally live without mythology.

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          • MrIzzz
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            • Sep 2003
            • 22923

            #6
            true on some many levels


            BUSH hates muslims, abortion, gay marriage, porn, etc...

            his agenda is blatantly obvious, and so the shepard steers the uneducated flock


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            • xclusive
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              • Apr 2004
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              #7
              I hate people who use god like that...

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              • 12clicks
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                • Jan 2001
                • 19814

                #8
                Originally posted by Danny_C
                You seem to enjoy willfully ignoring the points people are making.

                I hope I live to see the day when mankind evolves, and can finally live without mythology.
                valid points are always welcome. come up with one and I'll prove it.
                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                • CamChicks
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                  • Sep 2003
                  • 1552

                  #9
                  Lets hope the christians get the holy war they voted for, and the rest of us avoid being targeted.

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                  • reynold
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 51271

                    #10
                    religion and politics. oh -oh I wouldn't go there if I were you.

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                    • rett11
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 397

                      #11
                      Lars is right. This election was won on religion and 'values'...too bad those values seem to be intolerance and hatred. Lots of those blacks, and tons of Latinos, didn't vote for Kerry b/c of abortion, gay marriage and stem-cell research, when in the past those votes would have been automatic. America is extremely conservative right now, which is very scary. Get ready for some good old fashioned witch-hunts.
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                      • Ian
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                        • Oct 2002
                        • 1259

                        #12
                        This was in a Canadian newspaper this morning:

                        "Bush was favoured among white men, voters with family incomes over $100,000 US and evangelical Christians who view him as a messenger from God in a titanic fight to quell terrorism and spread liberty around the world, while Kerry was the overwhelming favourite of black voters, Hispanics, union households and was supported by many younger voters."

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                        • tigerw
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                          • Apr 2003
                          • 102

                          #13
                          exactly... with bush in office we have to deal with a fundamentalish christian superpower instead of a rational goverment.


                          although as a sweede i feel releaved that bush is gonna win... atleast now there will be no pressure on us to help out in their righteous struggle to increase their power by killing of all muslims with oil that arent their bitches
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                          • 12clicks
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                            • Jan 2001
                            • 19814

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ian
                            This was in a Canadian newspaper this morning:

                            "Bush was favoured among white men, voters with family incomes over $100,000 US and evangelical Christians who view him as a messenger from God in a titanic fight to quell terrorism and spread liberty around the world, while Kerry was the overwhelming favourite of black voters, Hispanics, union households and was supported by many younger voters."

                            I live how idiots make evangelical christians out to be a large part of the population and radical.
                            """Christians who view him as a messenger from God in a titanic fight to quell terrorism and spread liberty around the world"""
                            its sad that liberals aren't bright enough to see thru this bullshit.

                            I guess it was hard to disparage successful people so they made boogie men out of people of faith.
                            so uneducated yet so silly.
                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                            • Xenophage
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 12122

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rett11
                              Lars is right. This election was won on religion and 'values'...too bad those values seem to be intolerance and hatred. Lots of those blacks, and tons of Latinos, didn't vote for Kerry b/c of abortion, gay marriage and stem-cell research, when in the past those votes would have been automatic. America is extremely conservative right now, which is very scary. Get ready for some good old fashioned witch-hunts.
                              exactly did you know african americans are 70% christian ? This pulled lots of votes away from kerry, the church told them so !

                              Anyway as a rich person I like bushes tax policy. but what good is more money when you dont ahve the right to spend it how you want or your ideals are punished. I guess if kerry woulda won there would be 50% of the people having their ideals punished.

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                              • Xenophage
                                Registered User
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 12122

                                #16
                                Originally posted by 12clicks
                                I live how idiots make evangelical christians out to be a large part of the population and radical.
                                """Christians who view him as a messenger from God in a titanic fight to quell terrorism and spread liberty around the world"""
                                its sad that liberals aren't bright enough to see thru this bullshit.

                                I guess it was hard to disparage successful people so they made boogie men out of people of faith.
                                so uneducated yet so silly.

                                11 states had propositions to ban gay marriage this pulled out al kinds of christians not just evangelicals fanatics.. This was an awesome tactic by the gop to get out the vote !


                                cant we all just get along why do we have to push our ideals onto each other.. thought america was where you could do what ya want withought being persecuted..

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                                • Halcyon
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                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 8609

                                  #17
                                  People voted for Bush because he was a good Christian. According to who!?
                                  Have these people read the words of Christ? I?m pretty sure that being humble and meek is mentioned more times in the Bible than fighting for justice is. I?m pretty sure loving thy neighbor is emphasized more than homosexuals are condemned. I?m pretty sure that turning the other cheek is the lesson of Christ, not an eye for an eye.
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                                  • StuartD
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                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 29903

                                    #18
                                    Apparently having an abortion is a bigger sin than going around the world and killing hundreds of innocents.
                                    Last edited by StuartD; 11-03-2004, 08:11 AM.
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                                    • Alex From San Diego
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                                      • May 2001
                                      • 1642

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                      Gee, I think if you go into the inner city and tell the millions of black voters for kerry that they aren't christian, they might beat you right out of those funky shirts you wear.
                                      Haven't you figured it out yet 12Clicks......they spin and spin so much that they become so dizzy, their logic is...well there is no logic behind these statements.
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                                      • Jer
                                        God is Brazilian
                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 10601

                                        #20
                                        Someone should have told Bush supporters that USA is a country, not a church or extension of it

                                        Oh, and that God is Brazilian

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                                        • getfreeze
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                                          • Mar 2002
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                                          #21
                                          God love you because of who you are, porn is okay...

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                                          • EZRhino
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                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 6258

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                            If you were a christian your church told you that god likes bush because god is against gays and against abortion. Porn is a sin too ! There are simply more christians in america than non christians.
                                            Bullshit, its about liberals and democrats not voting. Like I always say "Sheep dont vote". And they didnt.
                                            There are far more non-christains / non practicing christians then christains that voted for Bush.
                                            Kerry failed to get votes that Clinton got when he defeated Bush Senior. Gays, blacks and younger voters.

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                                            • 12clicks
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 19814

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                              11 states had propositions to ban gay marriage this pulled out al kinds of christians not just evangelicals fanatics.. This was an awesome tactic by the gop to get out the vote !


                                              cant we all just get along why do we have to push our ideals onto each other.. thought america was where you could do what ya want withought being persecuted..
                                              there's a very very small minority who want to see the definition of marriage changed (as was shown in the polls)

                                              this has nothing to do with persecution and everything to do with common sense.
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                                              • Sly
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                                                • Sep 2004
                                                • 31379

                                                #24
                                                I have a difficult time believing that 50% of the country is Christian and attends Church. Anybody have some stats? Stats of people that actually attend Church.
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                                                • Webby
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                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 14956

                                                  #25
                                                  If you were a christian your church told you that god likes bush because god is against gays and against abortion. Porn is a sin too ! There are simply more christians in america than non christians.
                                                  Hey Lars!! You seriously think all that crap has anyone whatsover to do with Christianity??

                                                  This kinda unique brand of Christianity is a perversion and *need* in people for a security blanket to help make up deficencies in their sad lives.

                                                  That is turn is used by other religous freaks like Faldwell and others.

                                                  That kinda religon is matched only by Islamic extremists and other perverts.

                                                  They are an embarassment as supposed members of the human race - some call them scum.
                                                  Last edited by Webby; 11-03-2004, 11:47 AM.
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                                                  • jmk
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                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 5391

                                                    #26
                                                    Not quite right
                                                    God loves everybody .. so he has no preference
                                                    you are talking about views from the CHURCH ... or rules they set.

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                                                    • SpikeHeel
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                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                      • 1531

                                                      #27
                                                      This is one of the real reason why this people are so decided. I really hope and pray for World peace and Unity!

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                                                      • strats
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                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                        • 1805

                                                        #28
                                                        this election sux

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                                                        • hagbard
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                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 309

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MrIzzz
                                                          true on some many levels


                                                          BUSH hates muslims, abortion, gay marriage, porn, etc...

                                                          his agenda is blatantly obvious, and so the shepard steers the uneducated flock
                                                          don't you mean the flock that agrees with him? I like porn. Lots of people dont. A lot of people on this board go on and on about rights and how our rights are being stamped on. The fact is that the majority of the people out there agree with Bush. If you're a liberal, you will likely claim that all of these people are stupid. In reality they just believe something different from you.

                                                          I'm not fond of people who crash planes into my country. I'm not wild about the "abortion as birth control" trend. If Gay people want to get married, let em. They have just as much right to be miserable as straight people. In the long run, though, I agree more with Bush than Kerry. What makes me sick is the number of libs who cry foul every time they dont win.

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                                                          • jas1552
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                                                            • May 2002
                                                            • 1462

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Ian
                                                            This was in a Canadian newspaper this morning:

                                                            "Bush was favoured among white men, voters with family incomes over $100,000 US and evangelical Christians who view him as a messenger from God in a titanic fight to quell terrorism and spread liberty around the world, while Kerry was the overwhelming favourite of black voters, Hispanics, union households and was supported by many younger voters."

                                                            I hope that was an editorial rather than such obvious nonsense being spoon fed to you as actual news by so called objective media.

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                                                            • BRISK
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                                                              • Feb 2003
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                                                              #31
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                                                              • TheJimmy
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                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 10747

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                I live how idiots make evangelical christians out to be a large part of the population and radical.
                                                                """Christians who view him as a messenger from God in a titanic fight to quell terrorism and spread liberty around the world"""
                                                                its sad that liberals aren't bright enough to see thru this bullshit.

                                                                I guess it was hard to disparage successful people so they made boogie men out of people of faith.
                                                                so uneducated yet so silly.



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                                                                • codymc12
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                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 719

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                  I live how idiots make evangelical christians out to be a large part of the population and radical.
                                                                  """Christians who view him as a messenger from God in a titanic fight to quell terrorism and spread liberty around the world"""
                                                                  its sad that liberals aren't bright enough to see thru this bullshit.

                                                                  I guess it was hard to disparage successful people so they made boogie men out of people of faith.
                                                                  so uneducated yet so silly.
                                                                  With the largest percentage of voter concern by poll going to 'moral values' - it's an understandable concern, no? When it's placed above even the economy and terrorism?

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                                                                  • Sean
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                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 2909

                                                                    #34
                                                                    lars is right for the most. i talked to my father who lives in alabama, who is from california and is not a redneck, told me a vote for kerry, is a vote against god. almost my entire family felt that way
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                                                                    • jayeff
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                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                      • 2944

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                      If you were a christian your church told you that god likes bush because god is against gays and against abortion. Porn is a sin too ! There are simply more christians in america than non christians.
                                                                      The primary differences between the New Testament and the Old are that Christ introduced the concept of personal salvation and he told his followers to be tolerant of others, leaving judgement to God. Hot-button politics may involve some issues that appeal to so-called Christians, but intolerance has nothing to do with true Christianity.

                                                                      Be that as it may, emotive appeals work and they have always been used to some extent. However, in the past in the US (except for the McCarthy era) their use has been restricted to the message and not the issue.

                                                                      Now the Republicans have used emotive issues themselves to win an election: the exact same technique as put Hitler in power and is behind the rise of Islamic fundamentalism. It's a Pandora's box that will be very hard to close because it worked so effectively and as you point out, porn is an obvious next target.

                                                                      The only consolation is that you must not win too easily, because then the issue goes away and ceases to work for you. Hopefully this means we will only be under a gradual assault.

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                                                                      • Jer
                                                                        God is Brazilian
                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 10601

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Irish Pimp
                                                                        lars is right for the most. i talked to my father who lives in alabama, who is from california and is not a redneck, told me a vote for kerry, is a vote against god. almost my entire family felt that way

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