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  • martyVP
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2004
    • 1917
    #1

    RELAX! Porn is going nowhere..

    If Bush or anyone else decides to regulate the industry, it might not be as bad as you think.

    Free porn may have to be turned into paid porn.

    At that point it will not be that hard for free sites to go with companies who have pay solutions for them set up already.

    Imagine this:

    You are a free movie site and you don't know the first thing about getting your own processor and/or anything else but getting traffic, there are companies who will provide co=branded skins to make look as if its your own and do your processing and content management for you.

    So what if Free porn is no longer aloud....

    Don't you think people will still pay for smut?

    This will only clean up the bullshit and keep the real players alive.

    Its not that bad.


    Although vague obscenety laws can be disturbing.
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    • KRL
      Entrepreneur
      • Oct 2002
      • 31429
      #2
      Yeh, porn is not going anywhere, but a lot of the people on this board may be going somewhere and it ain't a pretty place.
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        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
          best designer on GFY
          • Mar 2003
          • 30307
          #3
          Yeah...

          Sorry Marty your wrong.

          Now that the Supremes will be swapping a little it gives AssCraft every piece of ammo he needs to start lockin people down.
          Things do not get much Vague than the 2257 Proposal.

          I guess it will be written in stone now.
          Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 11-02-2004, 10:19 PM.

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            • Mr. Pat
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2004
              • 547
              #4
              Originally posted by martyVP
              If Bush or anyone else decides to regulate the industry, it might not be as bad as you think.

              Free porn may have to be turned into paid porn.

              At that point it will not be that hard for free sites to go with companies who have pay solutions for them set up already.

              Imagine this:

              You are a free movie site and you don't know the first thing about getting your own processor and/or anything else but getting traffic, there are companies who will provide co=branded skins to make look as if its your own and do your processing and content management for you.

              So what if Free porn is no longer aloud....

              Don't you think people will still pay for smut?

              This will only clean up the bullshit and keep the real players alive.

              Its not that bad.


              Although vague obscenety laws can be disturbing.
              i really hope you're right dude, i really do. i am thinking positive right now, even tho it's hard.
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                • jollyperv
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 3927
                  #5
                  Wrong. Surfers will just get their free porn from webmasters who don't live in the US. And there are tons of them.

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                    • Melody
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 130
                      #6
                      WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN END TO FREE PORN -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN END TO PORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                      What is so hard for you guys to understand about this?
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                        • Veterans Day
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 8403
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Melody
                          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN END TO FREE PORN -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN END TO PORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                            • abyss_al
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                              • Oct 2003
                              • 15605
                              #8
                              Exclusive conetent is what alot of poeple are going with... most small companies will go bye bye
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                                • eroswebmaster
                                  March 1st, 2003
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 20295
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by jollyperv
                                  Wrong. Surfers will just get their free porn from webmasters who don't live in the US. And there are tons of them.

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                                    • Roger
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 3181
                                      #10
                                      Of course not. And I'm guessing this is just nothing at all.

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                                        • Pornkings
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 5334
                                          #11
                                          Thats the direction we are headed in. Webmasters will be safe promoting us. We took the measures to become compliant with the Proposed Regs if they happen to pass. took us 6 months and 1000's of man hours.




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                                            • Chris
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 27880
                                              #12
                                              this industry will hurt if free porn is gone
                                              but there will always be free porn on the net NO MATTER what you do

                                              and people will find it
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                                                • GatorB
                                                  The Demon & 12clicks
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 18208
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by martyVP
                                                  If Bush or anyone else decides to regulate the industry, it might not be as bad as you think.

                                                  Free porn may have to be turned into paid porn.
                                                  You are an idiot. Bush wants you to go to PRISON.

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                                                    • Steen2
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                      • 7662
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by GatorB
                                                      You are an idiot. Bush wants you to go to PRISON.
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                                                        • martyVP
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 1917
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                          You are an idiot. Bush wants you to go to PRISON.
                                                          YA, are you forgetting that Bush is a republican and he likes money?

                                                          Free porn = no tax dollars

                                                          paid porn = lots of tax dollars



                                                          idiot=you

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                                                            • martyVP
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 1917
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by martyVP
                                                              YA, are you forgetting that Bush is a republican and he likes money?

                                                              Free porn = no tax dollars

                                                              paid porn = lots of tax dollars



                                                              idiot=you

                                                              Do you for one minute think maybe he is not interested in loosing all the money that comes from porn when he knows you can still have porn coming from offshore countries?

                                                              Bush is not interested in loosing the funds that add to this country from porn businesses.

                                                              It only helps his warchest.

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                                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                  best designer on GFY
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 30307
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Porn is chump change to the guys in the Warmonger biz.

                                                                  Remember they blew through trillions in Iraq.
                                                                  For every 1 dollar Osama spent the USA spent a Million.

                                                                  Ya think The Bushies they will throw a bone to the religeous nutcases?
                                                                  I think they will, its pocket change they do not mind ruining to placate the god fearing men and women and reinforce there religious facade of "Family values".
                                                                  Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 11-02-2004, 10:45 PM.

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                                                                    • BRISK
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 12240
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Melody
                                                                      WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN END TO FREE PORN -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN END TO PORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                      What is so hard for you guys to understand about this?
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                                                                        • Marcus Aurelius
                                                                          No Refunds Issued.
                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                          • 14809
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Pornkings
                                                                          Thats the direction we are headed in. Webmasters will be safe promoting us. We took the measures to become compliant with the Proposed Regs if they happen to pass. took us 6 months and 1000's of man hours.




                                                                          Free Turnkey TGP

                                                                          TURNKEY TGP enables you to easily build your own thumbnail gallery posts. TURNKEY TGP is a unique first of its kind program which pays you $30 per trial sale.

                                                                          Create the look and feel of your own hosted TGP and choose your own sub-domain. Or just use the default settings its totally up to you... XXXPIX.com incorporates all our programs and sites under one domain, so there are many ways you can promote your TGP.

                                                                          How you get traffic to your Free Turnkey TGP is up to you. The sites are laid out like a TGP with 1000s of free galleries the marketing potential is unlimited since you can promote the site as free or promote each individual niche.
                                                                          ? $30 per Trial sale your TGP produces
                                                                          ? Easy stats and payments made twice a month
                                                                          ? You control the Top 20 links on your TGP, use it to promote your sites, add more hosted galleries, Promote other products Or trade traffic its up to You
                                                                          ? We will update the galleries for maximum conversion and to create sticky end users for you to convert over and over again.
                                                                          ? Example of 11 Free TURNKEY TGP templates: BTW you can change the header graphic to your own logo or mix and match the header logo?s with the templates
                                                                          http://blackandwhite.xxxpix.com
                                                                          http://blueandyellow.xxxpix.com
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                                                                          http://purpleandgreen.xxxpix.com
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                                                                          http://flowerpower.xxxpix.com
                                                                          http://ripped.xxxpix.com
                                                                          http://redarrow.xxxpix.com

                                                                          TURNKEY TGP was built for all webmasters with traffic. You can use it as an exit; place it on SE, Trade traffic with TGPs etc. It was built to retain and convert your traffic.

                                                                          Imagine a program built to create sticky surfers it might not convert like other programs in the beginning but eventually it will convert them all over and over again. It doesnt get better than this, free hosting, free content and free traffic

                                                                          So, what are you waiting for? Get with the Program!!

                                                                          You never answered my question from your original thread. would it be possible to host the index file and skinned graphics on my own domain, and let your backend fill in the links?

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                                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                              best designer on GFY
                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 30307
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Watch how fast Asscraft puts Rob Blacks nuts in a sling.

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                                                                                • J$tyle$
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                  • 11500
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  The government can regulate US businesses only

                                                                                  Foriegn webmasters will continue to do as they please

                                                                                  It remains to be seen how they will go after porn on the web ... it's likely that they will make examples of a few people.

                                                                                  Skate and cross the line with violent and abusive porn (like rob black) and you're going to shine the light on yourself no doubt, however - nobody is really safe.

                                                                                  2257?

                                                                                  Yeah, that's another issue - clean your dirty porn houses and try to follow the rules as closely as possible and you "SHOULD BE" ok!

                                                                                  .... well, hopefully

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                                                                                    • martyVP
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                      • 1917
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by jollyperv
                                                                                      Wrong. Surfers will just get their free porn from webmasters who don't live in the US. And there are tons of them.
                                                                                      That is understandable, maybe i should elaborate...


                                                                                      Not everyone in the U.S. will go offshore so what i am saying is that there will be alternatives to those who decide to stay here.

                                                                                      And i am talking about copa more than i am about 2257.

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                                                                                        • J$tyle$
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                                          • 11500
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by AlienQ


                                                                                          Ya think The Bushies they will throw a bone to the religeous nutcases?
                                                                                          I think they will, its pocket change they do not mind ruining to placate the god fearing men and women and reinforce there religious facade of "Family values".
                                                                                          They'll alwasy try to use the "fight to eradicate porn" as a diversion from the war and other idomestic issues, as well as 'pay back" for the religious rights support

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                                                                                            • Drake
                                                                                              Hello world!
                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                              • 12508
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by martyVP
                                                                                              Do you for one minute think maybe he is not interested in loosing all the money that comes from porn when he knows you can still have porn coming from offshore countries?

                                                                                              Bush is not interested in loosing the funds that add to this country from porn businesses.

                                                                                              It only helps his warchest.
                                                                                              Why does Visa hate porn so much if it makes so much money? Wouldn't they want to process as much as they can for all kinds of sites just to get all that they can. They're a business after all and love money.

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                                                                                                • Shags
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                  • 735
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Melody
                                                                                                  WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN END TO FREE PORN -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN END TO PORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                                                  What is so hard for you guys to understand about this?
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                                                                                                    • KRL
                                                                                                      Entrepreneur
                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                      • 31429
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Bottom line guys, tone down your extreme porn sites and build up more mainstream sites.

                                                                                                      You're sitting ducks if you don't.
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                                                                                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                          best designer on GFY
                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                          • 30307
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I hope you guys are right Marty and J$tyles.

                                                                                                          Content is gonna get hit, foriegn webmasters will have the advantage.

                                                                                                          Even the financial tide is changing with transactions abroad.

                                                                                                          Lunch sometime again would be nice J$tyles

                                                                                                          Anytime.

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                                                                                                            • KRL
                                                                                                              Entrepreneur
                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                              • 31429
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                                              Why does Visa hate porn so much if it makes so much money? Wouldn't they want to process as much as they can for all kinds of sites just to get all that they can. They're a business after all and love money.
                                                                                                              So much money? Its not even a blip on the radar screen out of the billions of transactions visa processes.
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                                                                                                                • GonZo
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                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                  • 3180
                                                                                                                  #29
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                                                                                                                    • J$tyle$
                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                      • 11500
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by martyVP
                                                                                                                      That is understandable, maybe i should elaborate...


                                                                                                                      Not everyone in the U.S. will go offshore so what i am saying is that there will be alternatives to those who decide to stay here.

                                                                                                                      And i am talking about copa more than i am about 2257.
                                                                                                                      Not everyone is from the united states to begin with ... webmasters internationally would quickly feast on any legal constraints we face here domestically, and rightfully attempt to take advantage

                                                                                                                      but, whenever there are regulations ... opportunities for smart people are opened

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                                                                                                                        • Drake
                                                                                                                          Hello world!
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                          • 12508
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                          Yeh, porn is not going anywhere, but a lot of the people on this board may be going somewhere and it ain't a pretty place.
                                                                                                                          I don't know what Bush will do with the industry. They may leave it, destroy it, whatever.

                                                                                                                          But the point you raise is exactly what a lot of people miss. The distinction between porn existing andthe people involved in porn.

                                                                                                                          Yes, PORN will ALWAYS be around. It's not going anywhere. The same doesn't hold true for any individual involved in porn.

                                                                                                                          If all Russian porn webmasters were locked up, would porn end? No, but it would suck for Russian porn webmasters. Similarly if US porn webmasters couldn't produce it any more, porn would still exist, but it would that really matter if you're locked up?

                                                                                                                          Everybody agrees that porn isn't going anywhere. We're concerned with US webmasters being able to work in porn.

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                                                                                                                            • martyVP
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                              • 1917
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                                                              Why does Visa hate porn so much if it makes so much money? Wouldn't they want to process as much as they can for all kinds of sites just to get all that they can. They're a business after all and love money.

                                                                                                                              Visa/Mastercard do not hate porn.

                                                                                                                              They hate the fact that porn has high risks for chargebacks which can make them loose money.

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                                                                                                                                • J$tyle$
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 11500
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AlienQ


                                                                                                                                  Content is gonna get hit, foriegn webmasters will have the advantage.

                                                                                                                                  Even the financial tide is changing with transactions abroad.

                                                                                                                                  Lunch sometime again would be nice J$tyles

                                                                                                                                  Anytime.
                                                                                                                                  AGREED if things DO go completely wrong

                                                                                                                                  Last edited by J$tyle$; 11-02-2004, 11:01 PM.

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                                                                                                                                    • Pornkings
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 5334
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mdcq
                                                                                                                                      You never answered my question from your original thread. would it be possible to host the index file and skinned graphics on my own domain, and let your backend fill in the links?
                                                                                                                                      Email Dave at Pornkings.com he can get you the answer from the tech dept.

                                                                                                                                      I'm not sure
                                                                                                                                      Pornkings.com

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                                                                                                                                        • Drake
                                                                                                                                          Hello world!
                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 12508
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by martyVP
                                                                                                                                          Visa/Mastercard do not hate porn.

                                                                                                                                          They hate the fact that porn has high risks for chargebacks which can make them loose money.
                                                                                                                                          So you're saying that 2% in chargebacks makes them lose money? That's why they prefer to shut down processors earning millions in good fair sales, because of the 1-2% of chargebacks they produce?

                                                                                                                                          Doesn't seem right.

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                                                                                                                                            • hagbard
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 309
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I think what a lot of people on this board are suddenly becoming aware of, is how badly run the porn business is.

                                                                                                                                              If you want to sell burgers you have a health inspector come in and make sure you're not shitting in the fries.

                                                                                                                                              If you want to do nails its a year+ in school and a state cert.

                                                                                                                                              doing SMOG CHECKS requres a cert (at least in my state)

                                                                                                                                              Doing porn? Nothing. I know 5 people in this biz that were doing it at 17 years old or less and includes 2 models who told me after the fact.

                                                                                                                                              When you look around and realize that 90% of the people you do business with are tax evading jackasses without any paperwork to cover their asses on any important issues, it can make you scared. This is what we're seeing.


                                                                                                                                              Remember that both CDA and COPA were passed on Clinton's watch (if liberals can say 9/11 happened on Bush's, then I can say CDA happened on Clinton's)

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                                                                                                                                                • kane
                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 20684
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  to me it's not so much about them passing a copa type law. If that happens it will be challenged in court and in most cases be struck down. The supreme court itself said in it's last ruling on copa that only 40% of the free porn comes from US based webmasters so regulating it is basically a worthless fight. What could be scary is obscenity cases. They can go after just about anything, anywhere. Will they win? So far they have yet to win a case where the people fought back, but I wonder how many people on this board have the money to put up a long, involved defense?

                                                                                                                                                  I was never worried about bush making another copa like law, remeber the first one came under clinton. What I am worried about is bush and his christian fundementalist coming after people with obscenity charges.

                                                                                                                                                  hopefully all of the people on this board and others that supported bush were right and nothing will happen. . . I guess we have to wait and see.

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                                                                                                                                                    • The Oracle Porn
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                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 720
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                                      Yeh, porn is not going anywhere, but a lot of the people on this board may be going somewhere and it ain't a pretty place.
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                                                                                                                                                        • baddog
                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 107089
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Melody
                                                                                                                                                          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN END TO FREE PORN -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN END TO PORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                                                                                                          What is so hard for you guys to understand about this?
                                                                                                                                                          I hope that means you are closing your site, and leaving the board . . .your ignorance is really becoming annoying

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                                                                                                                                                            • Drake
                                                                                                                                                              Hello world!
                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 12508
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              I think perhaps we can take Online Gambling as a parallel.

                                                                                                                                                              I think that Gambling sites are illegal in the US (correct? I'm not 100% certain). But they used to be legal here. They were driven offshore instead of simply being 'regulated'.

                                                                                                                                                              Did online gambling stop? No, it's still here and it's here to stay. Are there companies located in the US operating gambling sites? Not likely if it's illegal.

                                                                                                                                                              Is gambling morally wrong? No. Is gambling obscene? No.

                                                                                                                                                              Is offline gamgling legal? Yes

                                                                                                                                                              So theoretically online porn can also be removed from the US. It doesn't mean porn is going to end, but it means your ability to work in porn if you live in the US sure can.
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                                                                                                                                                                • Drake
                                                                                                                                                                  Hello world!
                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                                                                                                  I think perhaps we can take Online Gambling as a parallel.

                                                                                                                                                                  I think that Gambling sites are illegal in the US (correct? I'm not 100% certain). But they used to be legal here. They were driven offshore instead of simply being 'regulated'.

                                                                                                                                                                  Did online gambling stop? No, it's still here and it's here to stay. Are there companies located in the US operating gambling sites? Not likely if it's illegal.

                                                                                                                                                                  Is gambling morally wrong? No. Is gambling obscene? No.

                                                                                                                                                                  Is offline gamgling legal? Yes

                                                                                                                                                                  So theoretically online porn can also be removed from the US. It doesn't mean porn is going to end, but it means your ability to work in porn if you live in the US sure can.
                                                                                                                                                                  And if gambling really is illegal in the US, wouldn't it have been better to legalize it, but regulate it, so that the Government can earn tax dollars from it? After all online gambling is an even larger industry than porn.

                                                                                                                                                                  If it didn't work for gambling, why would it work for adult, which has just as many if not more negatives in the public view (it's dirty, immoral, degrading, etc)
                                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by Drake; 11-02-2004, 11:35 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • J$tyle$
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                                                                                                      And if gambline really is illegal in the US, wouldn't it have been better to legalize it, but regulate it, so that the Government can earn tax dollars from it? After all online gambling is an even larger industry than porn.

                                                                                                                                                                      If it didn't work for gambling, why would it work for adult, which has just as many if not more negatives in the public view (it's dirty, immoral, degrading, etc)
                                                                                                                                                                      Shhhhhhh ...

                                                                                                                                                                      You're making too much sense

                                                                                                                                                                      lol

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Drake
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                                                                                                                                                          Shhhhhhh ...

                                                                                                                                                                          You're making too much sense

                                                                                                                                                                          lol
                                                                                                                                                                          LOL thanks Jay. I'm seriously throwing this question out for answers. Hearing people go on and on about how "porn is here to stay, it's been around since the middle ages" gets old. We already know that. We know porn is here to stay, but we don't know if we'll be allowed to make our line of business as US citizens. But maybe they know something I don't. I want to learn.

                                                                                                                                                                          I know that if I was a hardline Republican and with all the CP crap online, I would draft a bill to eradicate ALL porn. That way it's cost effective. You don't have to see if this one or that one is following 2257 notices bullshit. Just remove all US based porn and the CP problem is easier to stop because any porn in the US is illegal.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • martyVP
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                                                                                                              And if gambling really is illegal in the US, wouldn't it have been better to legalize it, but regulate it, so that the Government can earn tax dollars from it? After all online gambling is an even larger industry than porn.

                                                                                                                                                                              If it didn't work for gambling, why would it work for adult, which has just as many if not more negatives in the public view (it's dirty, immoral, degrading, etc)
                                                                                                                                                                              Gambling is legal in certain parts of the country, it's just not legal in most.


                                                                                                                                                                              I guess You can't really say that for anything because then we could say the same for arms,prostitution drugs etc...

                                                                                                                                                                              I do see your point.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Drake
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by martyVP
                                                                                                                                                                                  Gambling is legal in certain parts of the country, it's just not legal in most.


                                                                                                                                                                                  I guess You can't really say that for anything because then we could say the same for arms,prostitution drugs etc...

                                                                                                                                                                                  I do see your point.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Cool Marty.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Just trying to provide an example of where all our "fears" were actually realized. People keep saying "we'll be fine, they can't remove porn, what we do is legal". Well maybe the gambling site owners said the same thing. In the end, they weren't fine.

                                                                                                                                                                                  If it was just a matter of regulation, than online gambling would be legal because they could make a killing in tax dollars from it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • J$tyle$
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by martyVP
                                                                                                                                                                                      Gambling is legal in certain parts of the country, it's just not legal in most.


                                                                                                                                                                                      I guess You can't really say that for anything because then we could say the same for arms,prostitution drugs etc...

                                                                                                                                                                                      I do see your point.
                                                                                                                                                                                      "medical marijuana" is legal in some places

                                                                                                                                                                                      prostitution is legal in some parts of Nevada ...

                                                                                                                                                                                      guns are legal throughout the country with proper paper work ... hell, you could get one as a FREEBIE in some bank in Michael Moore's "Bowling for Colombine" when you open a checking account or CD or some shit

                                                                                                                                                                                      Gambling is becoming legal in more areas every year

                                                                                                                                                                                      it's all pretty odd actually

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Drake
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                                                                                                          So much money? Its not even a blip on the radar screen out of the billions of transactions visa processes.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Exactly. Which is why I doubt they would be concerned about extracting tax dollars from us. If they decided to squash us, it wouldn't even be noticed by Visa, the economy, or the government coffers.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Matt_WildCash
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Marty nice idea but free porn is here to stay, if it can't be hosted in the USA it will be hosted in Canada or Amsterdamn or whereever. Instead of 2 meg mpegs we'll drop to 1 meg mpegs and move all hosting to Canada. And we'll move our processing out of the US problem solved and free porn isn't a bad thing its a good way of getting traffic and offering teaser stuff.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mr. Pat
                                                                                                                                                                                                      i really hope you're right dude, i really do. i am thinking positive right now, even tho it's hard.
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