Originally posted by Paul Markham
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This is question has no real answer but Im going to have to burst your bubble. My thoughts are this is just your perception of things. Im sure a much much greater magority of models do not sleep with the photogs. Its about the quality of the product and what the end user seeks. You forgot one thing marketing is a majpr factor in what sells these girls.Originally posted by Paul MarkhamAs I'm going out I will give you the answer.
She sells better and makes the shooter more money.
She's working with her lover, showing more than a piece of meat.
We are working in a business that's all about fantasy. For a lot of porn consumers the fantasy is that this girl will fuck him. How much better can you produce that fantasy with a girl who is thinking about making love to you, Against a girl who has a wall between her and the shooter, or even worse a shooter who has that wall?
The simple truth it if the girl is sleeping with the photographer he's working on a different level to other shooters or girls. She will sell better.
None of you clearly saw it, though some got close. most thought of some element of force or manipulation. Makes me wonder about their people skills with the opposite sex.
How ever if you are crap in bed best to leave the girl wanting you than for her to find out how crap you are. I fortunately do not have that problem and any who doubt it consider the age of my wife.
The last picture I did not shoot, but is still applies to this thread.
Lets also assume most of these girls are horny sluts, so whats the big deal to fuck another guy who will potentionly make them money. Everyone has different bussines ethics and morals. So on that note if the chick wants to bang after work, give it to them.Comment
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Dude.. you have no idea. I have never shot a set for less then twice that. What dont you get and since when do you know my rates? Fuck off!Originally posted by Paul Markham
If Eva shoots 80% of yrou content then how can you claim to be so damn good anyway? I shoot 100% of mine. Eva makes you look good Paul. If 8 out of every 10 pics on your site are hers as you claim, then you better stop fucking around on her. She is the best thing that ever happened to you... as you said.....haha shes your photographer.. hahaha
How can you lay claim to your skills when someone else shoots 80% of it?
Paul, you have said over and over for years and year how you screw the talant. This thread makes it clear you do. I mean do you read what you post?
But yeah, youre right about one thing, Im not near as good as a photgrapher as Eva is.
I dont suck though either
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That's HotOriginally posted by Belinda
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I bump for Charlie! He fucks his models.
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At least he pays themOriginally posted by Shooting_Maniac1I bump for Charlie! He fucks his models.
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hahahaOriginally posted by Paul Markham
fool, she can't wait untill you kick the bucket so she gets to inherit all your shit
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you know nothingOriginally posted by DeanCaptureAt least he pays themComment
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Originally posted by Nydahl
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Originally posted by NTSS
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If you shoot me for $500 a day I'll sleep with you, Paul!
Sleep well, and dream of large women.
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don't risk - you know PaulOriginally posted by DagwolfIf you shoot me for $500 a day I'll sleep with you, Paul!Comment
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Originally posted by DeanCaptureAt least he pays them
You saying I dont pay my models you fucktard? Me and you are about to have a huge and I mean fucking huge problem. You feelin me boy?
Make another lie and accusation like that and watch what happens. DOnt play me Dean. You have no idea buddy!
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fucktard? problem? boy?Originally posted by Shooting_Maniac1You saying I dont pay my models you fucktard? Me and you are about to have a huge and I mean fucking huge problem. You feelin me boy?
Make another lie and accusation like that and watch what happens. DOnt play me Dean. You have no idea buddy!
Jeff - bring on your best shot man. I know MUCH more about you then you think I do. I don't think you want to fuck around with me bro'. But if you insist....let's rock n roll then
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Libel/slander drama coming up soon! Stay tuned for details...Sleep well, and dream of large women.
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Originally posted by DeanCapturefucktard? problem? boy?
Yep... all of the above. You have about 30 seconds to call me and recant your lie or I will become a very big part of your world.
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Naaaa - I doubt it. All I said was that Paul pays his models...which I'm sure is trueOriginally posted by Dagwolf
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Im sure he does.... just as you know I do you fucking little pussy. Stop playing Capt Save A Hoe and pick up your phone and all me.Originally posted by DeanCaptureNaaaa - I doubt it. All I said was that Paul pays his models...which I'm sure is true
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Oh yeah.Originally posted by DeanCaptureNaaaa - I doubt it. All I said was that Paul pays his models...which I'm sure is trueSleep well, and dream of large women.
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I say some models sleep with photographers because of human nature. THey are getting stimulated taking the pics..and want to get off!
Makes sense to me.
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Jeff....is this the same threatening tone and name calling that you use to scare other people into doing what you want them to do? I'm sorry bro...this does not work for me. I have no problem picking up the phone and talking with you, but all this name calling and this threatening tone will get you nowhere with me. Now, after you apologize for threatening me and calling me names....I'll "consider" calling you.Originally posted by Shooting_Maniac1
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Where are you Dean? Come on! I have all afternoon to set you straight.Comment
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OMG this got really gay.
I mean it was gay before but it just got worse.
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Fine.. Im sorry for calling you names, however, you should be equally as sorry for saying I dont pay my models. Give me a call and lets up this to rest. Im leaving on vacation in the morning and would love to go with a clear head.Originally posted by DeanCaptureJeff....is this the same threatening tone and name calling that you use to scare other people into doing what you want them to do? I'm sorry bro...this does not work for me. I have no problem picking up the phone and talking with you, but all this name calling and this threatening tone will get you nowhere with me. Now, after you apologize for threatening me and calling me names....I'll "consider" calling you.
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Nice shot.
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Originally posted by AlienQ
Nice shot.
Thanks!
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do you think she is willing to blow Paul up after shooting ?Originally posted by AlienQ
Nice shot.
edited : I know its not Pauls pic - every1 can see rightLast edited by Nydahl; 11-13-2005, 12:53 PM.Comment
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i'd have to say mostly because they feel they have to....you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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Originally posted by Nydahl
Hahaha! Highly doubtful. For one, she speaks english and two, she makes more then $1000.00 a year. She does not need Paul as bad as those poor girls in Prague do. I call it taking advantage.
Hmmmm suck Pauls dick so I can pay rent next month or dont and never get hired back. hmmmmm.Comment
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Jeff, I didn't say that you didn't pay your models. I simply said that Paul pays his. You must have a guilty concious or something?Originally posted by Shooting_Maniac1
Listen, next time you want to have a phone conversation with somebody, maybe threatening them and calling them names is not the best approach. Who wants to have a conversation with someone who can't control their emotions and their behavior? I sure don't! Your a loose canon Jeff! I would just end up hanging up on you and that would probably piss you off even more and your ol' blood pressure probably ain't what it used to me huh?
If you want to be treated and respected as a professional - you need to start acting like one. Constantly changing your identity and lying about who you really are is not something that a professional would do. Sending threatening emails to models to pressure them into keeping their mouth shut about their experience working with you is not something that a professional would do. I think your damn lucky that anybody would do business with you after all the shit that you've pulled but I guess there's room for everybody in this industry. Nothing surprises me anymore about people in this industry
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A professional model should be able to fake (act) like she wants to fuck you while she is in front of the camera. Photo lights go off, she gets dressed and is on her way...
I get your concept Paul, this is not the first time you have explained it on GFY.
The way you're painting the picture you'd have to fuck every model to get quaility product for your clients. Guess I'll leave the content production to you and Araon. I don't want to fuck every model (maybe half of 'em?). BTW Do any Tranny content? Does the same thing apply? Just given ya shit Paul. Enjoy!Comment
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A Good Photographer Would Never Sleep With His Model
Work Is Work
Be Fucking ProfessionalComment
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Very talented models in the picts!Comment
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Duh what was the question again???? Yes i understand the question and i was making a statement, not neccesarily towards you. I would never fuck any of the models that come through our studio, and i have a rule that my crew is also not allowed to touch them while in the studio either or i fire them on the spot. Bragging that you fuck the models is just stupid.Originally posted by Paul MarkhamComment
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he's not a photographer, but i agreeOriginally posted by CoronaI'm just a newbie.Comment
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Please dont play coy Dean. You knew exactly what you were implying. Spin it anyway you like. There was purpose in yoru statement and you know it as did everyone else that read it. Dont insult yourself.Originally posted by DeanCaptureJeff, I didn't say that you didn't pay your models. I simply said that Paul pays his. You must have a guilty concious or something?
You dont know me well enough to know if I am a loose canon or not. Im about the easist going guy you were ever meet. However, being attacked here on a daily bases with claims such as you have made makes me very defensive an franky, I have a right to defend myself in the manner I see fit. If you had been a professional, you would have contacted me, got my side of the story on this issue, not brought it to gfy and at least hadenough info to make an informed decison on the actual events. Trust me, it was FAR from the way you have painted it. And you know full well that models always tell he "truth". I know three other photographers, two of which you know well that have had very similar expeniences with this girl. Shes a known liar. There also another programthat shot her who she trashed when she was shooting for us. Same exact sitauation. Come to find out.. those claims she made were untrue also. I will give you the info in private of course. Shes a sweet as pie and sucked me in also... I never let models and their families stay at my home, but I did her their case. Like a fool.. I trusted her and her husband and I NEVER gave them a reason to not trust me. I sent her an email with what was going on and the first words out of her mouth were "FUCK YOU JEFF". After all I did for her and booking her, paying her ontime, everytime, avancing them 1500.00 for her wedding ring so she coud get married. Advancing them $500.00 so they could take teir daughter away for the weekend and I get a "Fuck You"? I dont think so. Regardless, I did exactly what I said I would do and when I said I would do it... a day early in both cases. My only regret is that I dont have that young lady taking depositions with my Laywer right now. Talking about "her expeiences" is one thing... making up lies and mis-representing the truth is another.
I went after you because you were making claims without having al the info. I will do it again, without hesitation. Im a very easy going guy Dean and a ton of fun actually, but Im not some kid that is going to just roll over when soemone throws a dart.
You are intitled to your opinion of course, but as a professional, make sure its an informed one before you hit the send button.
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Your a good one to be telling me what is and isn't professional. I'm not the one who changes my nic regularly and lies about who I am. I'm not the one who spent all that time and energy trying to convince everyone that I was somebody else. When you grow the fuck up and start taking some responsibility for who you are, what you've done and how you act...then you and I can have a mature convo.
Congratulations, I've just added you to my ignore list. You and AlienQ should be honored. You two dipshits deserve each other.
Say whatever you wanna say Jeff - I will not be reading or responding to anymore of your pathetic excuses. You want so badly for people to believe that your a good honest guy but your past cannot escape you.
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LOL...Originally posted by DeanCapture
What a joke.
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because the pro shooter knows how to talk to the girl to get the shots he needs.
and if he's doing his job right she feels very special and very beautiful during the shoot, and things do get pretty intimate, pretty close.
and if the photographer is the least bit attractive and he wants the girl, he can usually have the girl.
been there. done that (many times) in my formative years.Comment
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they like?....Comment
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Simple, a women's sexual drive is powered by men with Power. A photographer has power when it comes to Models, so they are turned on.
Same thing goes for nurses towards their bosses etc.
Oh and the fact that most women are total sluts is also a keyfactor.skype: lordofthecameltoeComment
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too me fucking models is very very unprofessional.Comment
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I worked in the strip club busine3ss for 11 years and I can tell you that the majority of strippers are having sex with DJ's, bartenders and managers at an alarming rate. It is not about the money because if it was they would be sleeping with the customers more than they do. I was never able to find the root of the phenomenon, but then again I did not really have the time to look. I was mainly too busy banging strippers to concern myself with the esoteric.Earn up to $.03 per Visitor -> No Click Monetization!"Because the World Wide Web is all about two things: horrifyingly stupid psychodrama, and naked chicks."
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Cool you cant read it.... SUCK MY MOTHER FUCKING COCK YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT!Originally posted by DeanCaptureYour a good one to be telling me what is and isn't professional. I'm not the one who changes my nic regularly and lies about who I am. I'm not the one who spent all that time and energy trying to convince everyone that I was somebody else. When you grow the fuck up and start taking some responsibility for who you are, what you've done and how you act...then you and I can have a mature convo.
Congratulations, I've just added you to my ignore list. You and AlienQ should be honored. You two dipshits deserve each other.
Say whatever you wanna say Jeff - I will not be reading or responding to anymore of your pathetic excuses. You want so badly for people to believe that your a good honest guy but your past cannot escape you.
Dude i was just trying to be nice. YOu want ot ignore other side of the story, thats cool. She must have gave you some ass. Thats the only thing that justifies your lack of interest in the other side of the story. haha
Fine, ignore me. Other then you rpic, you have nothing of value anyways.
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some threads are really amazing...
for the records: i never fucked any model... - but i know it happens. but when it happens: please after the shooting and without any pressure like "blow me or i don't pay you". i heard things like that happen - and that's truly sick.
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That's a little ironic coming from you!Originally posted by tony404 Of course, it's a little different when you're married to the model.
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Originally posted by Paul Markham
Well any girl would cost $1,000 a day, the girls you fuck obviously think they are going to be working more days. Just my 2 cents. Just a response to that particular post, not the thread.Comment
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Simply: women fuck males that they are around a lot. If you work with someone your chance to bang them is raised
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In my three years as talent, I NEVER fucked a photographer or, for that matter, any other talent I worked with.
Wow... some of you get really fooled about models being all turned on "for real" during a shoot. When I was working, I was so busy thinking about camera angles, getting the best positions, creating the right mood for the shoot, and getting the best content possible that I was not at all interested in any off-the-books sex after a gig! In fact, I'd usually be off the menu for my guy that night too!
Those of you who fuck the talent, get your action somewhere else! Just because we're good at convincing you that we're all hot and horny for the camera, don't try and get a little piece for yourself! That's very icky!Comment
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