ego?
Wanting to get your moneys worth? (how you phrased the other question) just my assumption, I dont know how all this shit works.
A magazine shoot day costs $500 for the model, $500 for the film, the camera and lens are usually around the $2,000 and upwards level. The strobe lights are $1,000 each and I use 3 to 5 to light a set.
Then there is make up, assistants, location, and a few other things. How do you even dream that me getting laid is "Getting my moneys worth"
Because you are flattered that she wants to sleep with you....
Always flattered and hooured that woman would sleep with me, but still not the reason I shoot her. That's the reason I take her out to dinner. $100 worth.
A magazine shoot day costs $500 for the model, $500 for the film, the camera and lens are usually around the $2,000 and upwards level. The strobe lights are $1,000 each and I use 3 to 5 to light a set.
Then there is make up, assistants, location, and a few other things. How do you even dream that me getting laid is "Getting my moneys worth"
Are u trying to say that they sleep with photogs cuz they think they are rich ?
She sells better and makes the shooter more money.
She's working with her lover, showing more than a piece of meat.
We are working in a business that's all about fantasy. For a lot of porn consumers the fantasy is that this girl will fuck him. How much better can you produce that fantasy with a girl who is thinking about making love to you, Against a girl who has a wall between her and the shooter, or even worse a shooter who has that wall?
The simple truth it if the girl is sleeping with the photographer he's working on a different level to other shooters or girls. She will sell better.
None of you clearly saw it, though some got close. most thought of some element of force or manipulation. Makes me wonder about their people skills with the opposite sex.
How ever if you are crap in bed best to leave the girl wanting you than for her to find out how crap you are. I fortunately do not have that problem and any who doubt it consider the age of my wife.
The last picture I did not shoot, but is still applies to this thread.
are you on drugs or what Paul ?
The most of all models (including softcore ladies) are fucking dirty , and they smell like fish.Also 99% of hardcore girls went through terrible issues in thier pussy
I wouldn't even touch them
So if you fuck your models then I am happy I don't belong to this club - jesus.
people who brag about fucking their models show their true call to this business.
and its in this thread that you can see how people fucking their models has even started shit and caused girls to close affiliate programs or change them.
brag all you want, but you lose more than respect when you brag about how many of the content girls you fuck.
its funny how lame some people really are.
i hope they all die of aids.
ps: every content shooter i know brags about how many girls they shoot and fuck.
how many content shooters actually keep one of the talent girls as a wife? they may fuck them but they will never marry.
Personally, I'm not really into having personal relationships with my models... it just makes things way too complicated, although I must say I've had more than a few models try.
It's easy enough to find play partners outside of my business, I really don't like to take any chances or risks to try to play with my work associates (and models fall in that category)
the girls probably take better pictures when its a guy who they have fucked before behind the camera. i'm sure they get more into it than they would with some guy they barely know and feel nervous.
Paul: you come of as such a self-centered ego tripping attention whore in this post its not even funny.. I always respected your work, but now you have tainted that image with one stupid post showing us one truely ugly side of your personality
I know you don't care about it... but that is just my 2 cents
because a good nude photographer knows how to make a model feel like the sexiest girl on earth in front of his camera.
it's a gift - Stephen Hicks has it - my partner John has it. I sent him to Minneapolis about 2 months ago to test shoot 5 girls over two days. He came back and I asked him how it went - he said 'tired - worn out' - he went for 5 for 5
You could have all the charm in the world but if you are ugly ain't going to make a difference
are you on drugs or what Paul ?
The most of all models (including softcore ladies) are fucking dirty , and they smell like fish.Also 99% of hardcore girls went through terrible issues in thier pussy
I wouldn't even touch them
So if you fuck your models then I am happy I don't belong to this club - jesus.
Well maybe we shoot a different type of girl. I know some of the girls you're talking about and I would agree with you for them.
This thread is a riot. What type of photographer would brag about fucking their teenage models and expect to get resepct for that? Ummm Paul would i guess.. If I ever fucked one of my girls, I sure would never tell the world about it. I would be to damn ashamed of myself. You go Paul.. keep fucking those 18 year old that can barely speack English if at all and throw your money at them like you are the Great White Hope. Thats really impressive.
Lord, a 60 plus year old man talking about his "tool". Get in a chatroom buddy.
Originally posted by Fletch XXX
people who brag about fucking their models show their true call to this business.
and its in this thread that you can see how people fucking their models has even started shit and caused girls to close affiliate programs or change them.
brag all you want, but you lose more than respect when you brag about how many of the content girls you fuck.
its funny how lame some people really are.
i hope they all die of aids.
ps: every content shooter i know brags about how many girls they shoot and fuck.
how many content shooters actually keep one of the talent girls as a wife? they may fuck them but they will never marry.
the girls probably take better pictures when its a guy who they have fucked before behind the camera. i'm sure they get more into it than they would with some guy they barely know and feel nervous.
Got it in one.
Some of the people here simply do not have a clue that they are in the sex industry and people get hot. Maybe they work so cold and detatched it never happens to them.
Eva is the best thing that ever happened to me. Yes a model I met and married.
So you fuck around on her also? I thoght you were married and you still screw the talant. Lord, poor girl. She might be the best thing that ever happened to you, but youre the worst thing that has ever happened to her if you do all the modeling fucking you do.
Some of the people here simply do not have a clue that they are in the sex industry and people get hot. Maybe they work so cold and detatched it never happens to them.
You can get a model hot without fucking them. The girls leave here dripping, but I still dont have to fuck them. Get them hot? Yes! Take adavantage? No!
This thread is a riot. What type of photographer would brag about fucking their teenage models and expect to get resepct for that? Ummm Paul would i guess.. If I ever fucked one of my girls, I sure would never tell the world about it. I would be to damn ashamed of myself. You go Paul.. keep fucking those 18 year old that can barely speack English if at all and throw your money at them like you are the Great White Hope. Thats really impressive.
Lord, a 60 plus year old man talking about his "tool". Get in a chatroom buddy.
When you have achieved 1 quarter of what I have with a camera then come and talk to me. Until then keep scratching for business at $150 a set. Wanker.
So you fuck around on her also? I thoght you were married and you still screw the talant. Lord, poor girl. She might be the best thing that ever happened to you, but youre the worst thing that has ever happened to her if you do all the modeling fucking you do.
And now stupid on top. Eva shoots 80% of the content we produce. Then there are the other girls shooting.
When did I say I screw the talent? When did I say I would be unfaithful to Eva?
You can get a model hot without fucking them. The girls leave here dripping, but I still dont have to fuck them. Get them hot? Yes! Take adavantage? No!
I've seen your work, it's not so good. When you have my record with a camera come and tell me.
Models are likely to sleep with anyone they want to. To sleep with a photographer....well who knows what kind of benefits come along with that.
Some of them are and these are the ones who you don't want to shoot because they are desperate for work. If a model does it for the money it does not work the same way.
When you work for magazines you're in a business where editors see 10 times the amount of work they need, so 90% ends up being thrown out. Usually because it's not right.
You do nothing to distance or upset the model, the look in her eyes is very important. Then things like the pose and setting come us. I'm the most magazine published content provider on the Internet. While some fools work for companies who will but anything so long as its $150 a set. I work for magazines who pay up to $2500 for solo girl. A single solo girl set will sell 5-6 times and gross $3,000 to $5,000.
So what makes the difference? Well sometimes it's because the photographer and model work so well together they get more out of the shoot than usual. And sometimes it's because they're intimate and the relationship is coming out in the pictures. This makes the girl's work more saleble, therefore she comes back and gets more work.
But I'm getting told how to work by a guy who shoots at a price level I would not drop to.
You can get a model hot without fucking them. The girls leave here dripping, but I still dont have to fuck them. Get them hot? Yes! Take adavantage? No!
So if you so good why aren't you shooting for magazines as well as the Internet?
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