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  • baddog
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    • Apr 2001
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    Calif Voters: Need questions answered re: state measures?

    If you are a California voter you have 16 propositions to vote on. If you are confused about any in particular, feel free to present your question here, and I will give you my analysis. No fee.


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    Last edited by SleazyDream; 11-01-2004, 10:10 PM.
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    • baddog
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      • Apr 2001
      • 107089
      #2
      Glad everyone is so informed . . . good sign

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        • Persius
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          • Jul 2003
          • 11779
          #3
          Prop 72 what do you think?

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            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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              • Mar 2003
              • 30307
              #4
              The one with cops and gambling is spookie.

              Then the one with the DNA testing.

              Tough stuff.

              I crossed off every single fucking republican, not one of them bitches I am voting for.

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                • baddog
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                  • Apr 2001
                  • 107089
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Persius
                  Prop 72 what do you think?
                  I am voting No on 72. I think that forcing companies over a certain size to provide benefits by law only does two things:

                  1. Legalized plunder. Stealing from the rich to give to the poor never works.

                  2. Will cause some businesses from expanding just to avoid going over the number of employees that would require them to start providing health care.

                  While writing this, it also occurs to me that it could have the effect of driving more business out of CA where they don't have regulations like the proposed one in this measure.

                  It should also be mentioned that it would result in significant net state revenue loses. Overall unknown net state and local savings or costs.

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                    • baddog
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                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089
                      #6
                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                      The one with cops and gambling is spookie.

                      Then the one with the DNA testing.
                      Cops? Are you talking about LA County measure A? That raises our sales tax by one-half cent. I am voting No because I do not feel they need to raise taxes, but rather learn to operate under a budget.

                      Gambling: that would be Props 68 and 70. The people that started 68 decided it was a lost cause and stopped promoting it. It was too late in the process, so it still made the ballot. I was voting Yes, but I guess I could be the only one.

                      The other was Prop 70. I am voting NO because I am not letting anyone enter into a 99 year contract, especially since right now we have no way of knowing how much the Indian tribes take in under the current system. I am not going to allow them to set up a 99 year contract when sometime down the road we might pass a law that makes them divulge more accurate info, but have them slide by with this 99 year loophole.

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                        • bringer
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 13082
                          #7
                          im voting yes on all because its too hard to read
                          Last edited by bringer; 11-01-2004, 10:30 PM.
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                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 30307
                              #8
                              72 is a no go for me as well.

                              At least I can say I think a little like ya Baddog

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                                • baddog
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 107089
                                  #9
                                  Sorry, I forgot Prop 69, the DNA issue.

                                  I am voting YES. I think that it is to my advantage if they have my DNA on file from some prior conviction to keep me from being wrongfully charged on some other matter.

                                  It only applies to felons, so I think that they have lost the right to privacy when convicted of a felony, just like they lose their right to vote or own a handgun.

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                                    • baddog
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                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 107089
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by bringer
                                      im voting yes on all because its too hard to read
                                      When in doubt, vote NO. It isn't like we need additional laws or taxes.

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                                        • baddog
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                                          • Apr 2001
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by AlienQ
                                          72 is a no go for me as well.

                                          At least I can say I think a little like ya Baddog
                                          I may be forced to re-evaluate my position and take my cloths off.

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                                            • bringer
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                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 13082
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                              When in doubt, vote NO. It isn't like we need additional laws or taxes.
                                              california sure is a shithole
                                              anything that hurts this state usually gets passed
                                              209 and 187
                                              im moving out of this country
                                              i hear hawaii is nice
                                              333-765-551

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                                                • TheEbonyFelony
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                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 1964
                                                  #13
                                                  YES ON STEMCELL RESEARCH
                                                  no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

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                                                    • baddog
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                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 107089
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony
                                                      YES ON STEMCELL RESEARCH
                                                      Did you read the proposition? When I first heard the tv commercials I thought I was for it too, but no way in hell am I authorizing a $6 billion bond to fund research

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                                                        • foolio
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                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 12366
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                          Did you read the proposition? When I first heard the tv commercials I thought I was for it too, but no way in hell am I authorizing a $6 billion bond to fund research
                                                          Yes, spending money to try to save countless lives is just stupid.


                                                          Anyway - what you think about the 3 strikes one?

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                                                            • ItBurnsWhenIpee
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                                                              • Jan 2003
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                              Did you read the proposition? When I first heard the tv commercials I thought I was for it too, but no way in hell am I authorizing a $6 billion bond to fund research
                                                              Actually it's $3 billion we get, but we have to pay back $6 billion.

                                                              Stem cell research isn't going anywhere, which is great, but California CAN'T afford a fucking huge loan for this when we're already so in debt.

                                                              This research will continue all over the world either way
                                                              Last edited by ItBurnsWhenIpee; 11-01-2004, 11:22 PM.

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                                                                • baddog
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                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                  • 107089
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by foolio
                                                                  Yes, spending money to try to save countless lives is just stupid.


                                                                  Anyway - what you think about the 3 strikes one?
                                                                  Why should the State of California fund the research? That is what capitalism is all about. Let private enterprise fund it, and reap the rewards. Trust me, they will do it without my cash donations, and they will be more economic about it.

                                                                  Prop 66- I say vote YES. When the 3 strikes law was presented to us they said it was only supposed to be for perps that were convicted of violent crimes. They turned it around and made it something it was not meant to be.

                                                                  It is time to bring it back to what it was originally intended. YES on 66

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                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                      • 107089
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by ItBurnsWhenIpee
                                                                      Actually it's $3 billion we get, but we have to pay back $6 billion.
                                                                      I look at the big picture, so yeah, it is a $3 billion bond, that will cost $6 billion to pay back. Hell, make it a low interest loan and I might say yes, but no way can we afford that kind of additional debt.

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                                                                        • slavdogg
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                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 3570
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                          Why should the State of California fund the research? That is what capitalism is all about. Let private enterprise fund it, and reap the rewards. Trust me, they will do it without my cash donations, and they will be more economic about it.
                                                                          Its a bill endorsed by venture capitalists
                                                                          as they dont want to take the risk of investing in stem cell research.
                                                                          its too risky for them
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                                                                            • EscortBiz
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                                                                              • May 2002
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                                                                              #20
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                                                                                • baddog
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                                                                                  • Apr 2001
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                                                  prop 66 about the 3 strike law
                                                                                  Asked and answered

                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog

                                                                                  Prop 66- I say vote YES. When the 3 strikes law was presented to us they said it was only supposed to be for perps that were convicted of violent crimes. They turned it around and made it something it was not meant to be.

                                                                                  It is time to bring it back to what it was originally intended. YES on 66

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                                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                                      • Apr 2001
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                                                      Its a bill endorsed by venture capitalists
                                                                                      as they dont want to take the risk of investing in stem cell research.
                                                                                      its too risky for them
                                                                                      There is nothing to be gained by the State of California funding this research. Let some socialist country do it if private industry doesn't want to take it on.

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                                                                                          • Nov 2003
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by baddog


                                                                                          It is time to bring it back to what it was originally intended. YES on 66
                                                                                          Good call.

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                                                                                            • baddog
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                                                                                              • Apr 2001
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                              Good call.
                                                                                              If they would just eliminate the voting process, and let me make the decisions around here, we would be much better off

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                                                                                                • slavdogg
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                  There is nothing to be gained by the State of California funding this research. Let some socialist country do it if private industry doesn't want to take it on.
                                                                                                  i agree
                                                                                                  Arnold was on Dennis Miller's show tonight telling voted to vote NO on 66
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                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                      If they would just eliminate the voting process, and let me make the decisions around here, we would be much better off
                                                                                                      I guess this means the Platonic ideal of the Philosopher-King is not dead

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                                                                                                        • baddog
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                                                                                                          • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                                                                          i agree
                                                                                                          Arnold was on Dennis Miller's show tonight telling voted to vote NO on 66
                                                                                                          Arnold is an asshole who is barely qualified to be an actor much less Governor of CA

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                                                                                                            • baddog
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                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                                              I guess this means the Platonic ideal of the Philosopher-King is not dead
                                                                                                              Not even close

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