$500k house = ~ $1600 mortgage payment. I think you are supposed to calculate your affordable residence at 1/3 of yer income, so maybe $4800 monthly income?
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Originally posted by Eve $500k house = ~ $1600 mortgage payment. I think you are supposed to calculate your affordable residence at 1/3 of yer income, so maybe $4800 monthly income?
$1600 mortgage payment? I want the drugs you are on. I have a fucking $136k house with a $1000 payment.
Originally posted by detoxed Well we'd need to know his equity, and whether its an interest only loan to know anything about his situation
true...the real estate market in AZ is retarded, so stuff like this happens everyday. Last time I looked, that stat was every one in three AZ resident has a real estate license...scary
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Originally posted by KRL Traditionally your mortgage payment should be approx 1/3rd of your income.
If you put down $100,000 your mortgage would be $400K. Ona 5.25% 30 yr fixed your payment would be around $2,200. Depending where you live figure in your property tax, and the other costs and I'd say you should be making around $150K to afford it comfortably.
If you buy a $500,000.00 home, you should also consider the extra cost for the increased utilities, digital cable and high-speed Internet access costs incurred from me living in your basement. You should also adjust your food expenditure to cover my ?meals? and ?snacks? and I will also need a monthly ?party? budget. I think you will hardly notice these extra costs.
Another way of doing a rough estimate, which is a little inaccurate since it doesn't factor in current rates, is that lenders don't like to lend more than 2 or 2.5 times your annual income, and they like to see 20% down. Plenty of exceptions depending on your other assets and other factors, and you can put less down, but it's good for rough estimates. So 20% down on a $500k home is $100k, with a $400k loan. If you're optimistic then, $160k a year income times 2.5 is $400k. A number of people have suggested $150k, and that's in the ballpark.
Others have also mentioned the importance of stability, with which I'd also agree. If you're a professional who can move between $150k/year jobs where you live without a lot of trouble, that's one thing. If you're a webmaster who made $50k last year, and are making $150k this year, a more conservative home purchase might be better. Maybe your income will continue going up, but this can be a volatile industry.
I've been looking into houses here and most are 100-150k for something decent, but there is nothing over 150k it seems like. Well there is one right next to the highway about 6 miles out of town that is 360k but that is it really. There just really isn't much for nice houses here. Sucks ass
Originally posted by broke Only an idiot would pay cash for a home at current interest rates.
Only an idiot would shoot his mouth without knowing what he's talking about. Even with current interest rate locked for 25 years one will pay more than $500k in interest alone on a $500k house so get your head outta your ass.. ah! sorry didn't notice your name was "broke" lol. Besides, he surely didn't get to 20k/mon over night so i'm sure he has enough money saved up to make 100% down or atleast will in the near future.
Originally posted by arg Another way of doing a rough estimate, which is a little inaccurate since it doesn't factor in current rates, is that lenders don't like to lend more than 2 or 2.5 times your annual income, and they like to see 20% down. Plenty of exceptions depending on your other assets and other factors, and you can put less down, but it's good for rough estimates. So 20% down on a $500k home is $100k, with a $400k loan. If you're optimistic then, $160k a year income times 2.5 is $400k. A number of people have suggested $150k, and that's in the ballpark.
Others have also mentioned the importance of stability, with which I'd also agree. If you're a professional who can move between $150k/year jobs where you live without a lot of trouble, that's one thing. If you're a webmaster who made $50k last year, and are making $150k this year, a more conservative home purchase might be better. Maybe your income will continue going up, but this can be a volatile industry.
What if I made about $10k taxable income in 2003, and about $200k in 2004? I was in school for half of 2003, and not self employed either
Originally posted by seven Only an idiot would shoot his mouth without knowing what he's talking about. Even with current interest rate locked for 25 years one will pay more than $500k in interest alone on a $500k house so get your head outta your ass.. ah! sorry didn't notice your name was "broke" lol. Besides, he surely didn't get to 20k/mon over night so i'm sure he has enough money saved up to make 100% down or atleast will in the near future.
Seeing as you could probably put $500k into a high interest CD, get 5%, get a mortgage for 6% and only pay 1% interest.
Originally posted by detoxed Seeing as you could probably put $500k into a high interest CD, get 5%, get a mortgage for 6% and only pay 1% interest.
Even with a 1% interest you'll be paying about 100,000 in interest on a $500k loan over 25 years. Why would you wanna pay a penny in interest if you could afford to pay cash? It's an asset, value of which will most likely appreciate, an asset you could always fall back on if you were to face rainy days then why want the headache? Loans are for people who couldn't otherwise afford it, in your case, you could afford it plus with your current income it would only take you few years to come up with another $500k to get your cert of deposit with
Originally posted by seven Only an idiot would shoot his mouth without knowing what he's talking about. Even with current interest rate locked for 25 years one will pay more than $500k in interest alone on a $500k house so get your head outta your ass.. ah! sorry didn't notice your name was "broke" lol. Besides, he surely didn't get to 20k/mon over night so i'm sure he has enough money saved up to make 100% down or atleast will in the near future.
It's pointless to argue with someone so clueless...
They say you should buy a house that is 3 times as much as you make a year. So a $500k house should have a household income of $166k+. Taxes go up, homeowners insurance premiums go up, make sure your income can follow suit.
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Originally posted by DukeSkywalker 500k house? on 150k salary? no way..
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most mortgage companies look at how much your putting down over your salary. as long as you make 60% more of what your payment will be. they want your monthly mortgage payment to be under 40% of your total wages before taxes
depends on location, you can get raped with taxes/insurance. i just bought my first house a year ago and i live in a very cheap area. even though i can afford a lot nicer im just going to live here until i get a lot more saved up and invested.
Originally posted by adrenalinedef $800 in insurance
800/mo insurance? Which insurance would that be? Only thing I could think of is HomeProtector Life & Disability Insurance but that shouldn't be more than 50 bucks/mo..
Originally posted by seven 800/mo insurance? Which insurance would that be? Only thing I could think of is HomeProtector Life & Disability Insurance but that shouldn't be more than 50 bucks/mo..
i use my home as an office to, so it covers all my personal and business property from theft, it covers all natural disaters, weather, fire, etc. I live in a flood area since my house is on a lake, so it includes flood protection
Originally posted by detoxed What if I made about $10k taxable income in 2003, and about $200k in 2004? I was in school for half of 2003, and not self employed either
20k sounds good if you have some personal savings as well. Just make sure not to overpay the house you want, the prices are very high at the moment. Don't be rushed and do a lot of research. Good luck with it.
Originally posted by broke Take the above example with 20% down and a 400K mortgage with assume a 6% interest rate on a 20 year mortgage:
Interest paid on a $400K loan: $ 287,773.81
Total payments: $687,773.81
Let's now look at a $400K inventment compounded annually for 20 years at 3%:
$722,444.49
I can't find the tool to verify this amount with but I'd still pay down the mortgage instead of trying to make whatever profit (even if it was 10% on the money like investing in real estate etc). I like to stay debt-free. I'd rather have my money turned into asset than liquid no matter how lucrative. Like i said I'd pay off the house first then do whatever with my money cos that's a safer bet but that's just me tthou.
Originally posted by FlyingIguana i wouldn't buy a 500k house. if i was paying that much for real estate it would have to be for commercial real estate or buildings
Originally posted by seven I can't find the tool to verify this amount with but I'd still pay down the mortgage instead of trying to make whatever profit (even if it was 10% on the money like investing in real estate etc). I like to stay debt-free. I'd rather have my money turned into asset than liquid no matter how lucrative. Like i said I'd pay off the house first then do whatever with my money cos that's a safer bet but that's just me tthou.
you have to look at it like even though you're paying that much interest over that time, the houses value will most likely increase more than how much you're paying.
Originally posted by seven I can't find the tool to verify this amount with but I'd still pay down the mortgage instead of trying to make whatever profit (even if it was 10% on the money like investing in real estate etc). I like to stay debt-free. I'd rather have my money turned into asset than liquid no matter how lucrative. Like i said I'd pay off the house first then do whatever with my money cos that's a safer bet but that's just me tthou.
That's cool and your perogative...
At 7% it would be $1,547,873.78 (compounded annually over the same period)... I prefer not to leave money like that on the table.
It's scary how much some banks are prepared to lend. Their "you can borrow up to this much" quotes went so high that we would have ended up paying 70-80% of our income into the mortgage each week. The actual figure we borrowed results in repayment amounts of less than 20% of our income.
Originally posted by FlyingIguana i wouldn't buy a 500k house. if i was paying that much for real estate it would have to be for commercial real estate or buildings
you do realize you can profit from a personal home right ?
Originally posted by FlyingIguana whats so funny? if i was a billionaire i'd have a house that was around 200k-300k. even then i would only take one floor and rent out the rest.
Originally posted by FlyingIguana whats so funny? if i was a billionaire i'd have a house that was around 200k-300k. even then i would only take one floor and rent out the rest.
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